+Young+ Posted October 12, 2016 Share #1 Posted October 12, 2016 Cops are searching for the stranger who grabbed a boy on board a moving subway train in Manhattan, pulled him out into the area between the subway cars and shook him, threatening to throw him onto the tracks, police say. The 11-year-old boy was with friends on a southbound 4 train in midtown Manhattan last Wednesday afternoon when the man picked up the boy and pulled him in between the subway cars, police said. Read more: Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted October 12, 2016 Share #2 Posted October 12, 2016 Do you go ever get the feeling that the entire world around you has lost its collective mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 12, 2016 Share #3 Posted October 12, 2016 So many crazies on the subways, which is why I avoid it like the plague. There needs to be more of a police presence down there and more undercover cops as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboy515 Posted October 12, 2016 Share #4 Posted October 12, 2016 Oh. My. God. I'd be scared to death. Sent from my iPad using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missabassie Posted October 13, 2016 Share #5 Posted October 13, 2016 What the bleep?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted October 13, 2016 Share #6 Posted October 13, 2016 So many crazies on the subways, which is why I avoid it like the plague. There needs to be more of a police presence down there and more undercover cops as well.If you stay at least semi aware during your subway ride, you really shouldn't have issues with crazies. During rush hours there are too many people on the subway for anything scary to happen. Off peak hours are more of an issue, but the chance of getting harassed is still rather slim on most lines. Yes, on certain lines running through certain neighborhoods it can happen more often, but still not often enough to be a cause for worry. If stories like these happened three times a week or every day, there would be more of a cause for concern. But it doesn't. Be aware and don't do stupid things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 13, 2016 Share #7 Posted October 13, 2016 If you stay at least semi aware during your subway ride, you really shouldn't have issues with crazies. During rush hours there are too many people on the subway for anything scary to happen. Off peak hours are more of an issue, but the chance of getting harassed is still rather slim on most lines. Yes, on certain lines running through certain neighborhoods it can happen more often, but still not often enough to be a cause for worry. If stories like these happened three times a week or every day, there would be more of a cause for concern. But it doesn't. Be aware and don't do stupid things. Ha, please. Being on a subway during rush hour doesn't stop the homeless people from taking over entire cars (they do because their stench simply can't be tolerated, forcing everyone to other cars) or the showtime people (they actually love performing during the rush since they have a better chance of getting money (more people to prey on)). From my experiences, I rarely get on a subway (peak or off-peak) without either a homeless person, a showtime person or some nut job yelling about Jesus and how we're going to hell . They seem to take over the train, and the homeless have become the norm on the trains on weekends going to Coney Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted October 13, 2016 Share #8 Posted October 13, 2016 Is this the subway getting more dangerous, or dangerous things on the subway getting more reporting than in the past? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted October 13, 2016 Share #9 Posted October 13, 2016 Ha, please. Being on a subway during rush hour doesn't stop the homeless people from taking over entire cars (they do because their stench simply can't be tolerated, forcing everyone to other cars) or the showtime people (they actually love performing during the rush since they have a better chance of getting money (more people to prey on)). From my experiences, I rarely get on a subway (peak or off-peak) without either a homeless person, a showtime person or some nut job yelling about Jesus and how we're going to hell . They seem to take over the train, and the homeless have become the norm on the trains on weekends going to Coney Island. If the car smells bad, whether from a homeless person or a wet dog, move into the next car. It's that simple. If you are on the or during rush hour then you might not be able to do that, which is true. Then again, the vast majority of subways don't have an extreme homeless infestation (or at least the lines I ride). The train is usually too crowded for showtime during rush hour. When I used to see it more often, it happened mostly during the middays and late afternoons. It appears you are incredibly unlucky with riding subways if you always see a homeless person or a showtime person. Maybe you attract them somehow? Then again, maybe you're overreacting, which wouldn't exactly be new. I believe you once were super upset about somebody who looked shabby getting onto your express bus. The ones who yell about Jesus or Messiah or whatever, I think those are hilarious. They usually don't bother anyone, and pretty much everybody ignores them. Admittedly, I don't ride the and on a regular basis so I don't know too much about the situation there. To be honest those lines are much too crowded to be a comfortable ride. However, I will say that I rarely see homeless people on the on the weekends in Brooklyn. In any case, it's the weekend, so it's a non-issue to move to another car if there is one. Honestly, rowdy schoolkids are more of an issue on the Brighton Line than homeless people, women claiming they are pregnant and asking for money, or self-declared preachers. The schoolkids can be really annoying, while the rest are just minor inconveniences that are easily ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeLow Posted October 13, 2016 Share #10 Posted October 13, 2016 It appears you are incredibly unlucky with riding subways if you always see a homeless person or a showtime person. Maybe you attract them somehow? Then again, maybe you're overreacting, which wouldn't exactly be new. I believe you once were super upset about somebody who looked shabby getting onto your express bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 13, 2016 Share #11 Posted October 13, 2016 If the car smells bad, whether from a homeless person or a wet dog, move into the next car. It's that simple. If you are on the or during rush hour then you might not be able to do that, which is true. Then again, the vast majority of subways don't have an extreme homeless infestation (or at least the lines I ride). The train is usually too crowded for showtime during rush hour. When I used to see it more often, it happened mostly during the middays and late afternoons. It appears you are incredibly unlucky with riding subways if you always see a homeless person or a showtime person. Maybe you attract them somehow? Then again, maybe you're overreacting, which wouldn't exactly be new. I believe you once were super upset about somebody who looked shabby getting onto your express bus. The ones who yell about Jesus or Messiah or whatever, I think those are hilarious. They usually don't bother anyone, and pretty much everybody ignores them. Admittedly, I don't ride the and on a regular basis so I don't know too much about the situation there. To be honest those lines are much too crowded to be a comfortable ride. However, I will say that I rarely see homeless people on the on the weekends in Brooklyn. In any case, it's the weekend, so it's a non-issue to move to another car if there is one. Honestly, rowdy schoolkids are more of an issue on the Brighton Line than homeless people, women claiming they are pregnant and asking for money, or self-declared preachers. The schoolkids can be really annoying, while the rest are just minor inconveniences that are easily ignored. The homeless problem on the seems to be a new thing. Years ago you would never see them on the train at any time. As for the most of the incidents I see are on the weekends and sometimes late during rush hour at night. Where possible I take Metro-North to avoid that or even the local bus. The local bus can be faster depending on where you are going. As for Showtime, they don't care about that. They will attempt to clear a path for them in the middle of the car, and they seem to have a love affair with the and trains because you can't escape into another car on those trains, and they go express for long periods of time. The and attracts them to a lesser extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassTransitHonchkrow Posted October 13, 2016 Share #12 Posted October 13, 2016 Do you go ever get the feeling that the entire world around you has lost its collective mind? Oh Yes. I did once, but I found it. Can't say the same for some wackjobs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biGC323232 Posted October 14, 2016 Share #13 Posted October 14, 2016 The homeless problem on the seems to be a new thing. Years ago you would never see them on the train at any time. As for the most of the incidents I see are on the weekends and sometimes late during rush hour at night. Where possible I take Metro-North to avoid that or even the local bus. The local bus can be faster depending on where you are going. As for Showtime, they don't care about that. They will attempt to clear a path for them in the middle of the car, and they seem to have a love affair with the and trains because you can't escape into another car on those trains, and they go express for long periods of time. The and attracts them to a lesser extent. That homeless problem even worst on E trains....I sometimes feel bad for some of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted October 14, 2016 Share #14 Posted October 14, 2016 I can't speak for others, but I haven't seen any of the preachers in years; they all seemed to disappear around the time the recession hit (coincidence?). Them and the Asians who used to go car-to-car selling batteries and trinkets on the back when it still ran R40s- but those folks disappeared even before the preachers (pre-2003). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted October 14, 2016 Share #15 Posted October 14, 2016 I had a preacher 2 years ago, and that's been it. Showtime has made somewhat of a small comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted October 14, 2016 Share #16 Posted October 14, 2016 Around 2013 there were a bunch of Jewish preachers on the train claiming that "Messiah is coming" and that "we must all do goodness before Messiah comes." Past that, I've seen some on the train, about one per year, preaching something about Christianity and Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted October 14, 2016 Share #17 Posted October 14, 2016 Was the kid shaken by this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46Dover Posted October 14, 2016 Share #18 Posted October 14, 2016 I can't speak for others, but I haven't seen any of the preachers in years; they all seemed to disappear around the time the recession hit (coincidence?). Them and the Asians who used to go car-to-car selling batteries and trinkets on the back when it still ran R40s- but those folks disappeared even before the preachers (pre-2003). No it was because their doomsday prophecies of the world ending in 2000 were full of sound and fury signifying nothing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted October 14, 2016 Share #19 Posted October 14, 2016 what ever happened to the battery $1 dollar people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrome Posted October 14, 2016 Share #20 Posted October 14, 2016 Is this the subway getting more dangerous, or dangerous things on the subway getting more reporting than in the past? Ding, ding ding! ... On another note, you know what would have prevented this incident... Open gangways! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted October 14, 2016 Share #21 Posted October 14, 2016 Here's an update from the hero woman's point of view http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/14/nyregion/seizing-the-moment-to-save-a-child-under-attack-on-the-subway.html?_r=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboy515 Posted October 14, 2016 Share #22 Posted October 14, 2016 Ding, ding ding! ... On another note, you know what would have prevented this incident... Open gangways! True, that locks people in the train. No one can get hurt on the ride when the subway train has open gangways. Sent from my iPad using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted October 14, 2016 Share #23 Posted October 14, 2016 Was the kid shaken by this? That was terrible. I can't speak for others, but I haven't seen any of the preachers in years; they all seemed to disappear around the time the recession hit (coincidence?). Them and the Asians who used to go car-to-car selling batteries and trinkets on the back when it still ran R40s- but those folks disappeared even before the preachers (pre-2003). I assume we're talking about the "praise the lord, repent as the end is nigh!" types and not the ones handing out pamphlets and the like. The last time I saw one of the former was on the about a year ago. Oddly enough, it was at the height of the rush hour, so you can imagine how that was a fun morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted October 15, 2016 Share #24 Posted October 15, 2016 what ever happened to the battery $1 dollar people? Who really needs batteries ASAP these days? It's not like I need to stick em in my Walkman or CD player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted October 17, 2016 Share #25 Posted October 17, 2016 Here's an update from the hero woman's point of view http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/14/nyregion/seizing-the-moment-to-save-a-child-under-attack-on-the-subway.html?_r=2 Wow no one even noticed but the teacher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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