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Old 01-27-2010, 04:52 AM
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Anyone know why Bee-Line went with NABIs instead of Orion VIIs?

The Bee-Line System only purchased 4 Orion VIIs a few years back. Any reason why decided to go with the NABI 40-LFW as their hybrid low floor model?
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Old 01-28-2010, 12:55 AM
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Because BeeLine,unlike the MTA,has a damn brain and realized that the Orion's were pure garbage.So they went with a manufactuer that builds better buses than Orion,namely NABI.I'll take a NABI over a O7 any day of the week.
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Simply tender and delivery time - NABI bid low to get a foothold in the region.
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Weren't those VII's supposed to come over to MTAB along with the O5's? What happened with that?
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Because BeeLine,unlike the MTA,has a damn brain and realized that the Orion's were pure garbage.So they went with a manufactuer that builds better buses than Orion,namely NABI.I'll take a NABI over a O7 any day of the week.
NABI builds better buses? That is simply not true. (cough)CTA's artics(cough)


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Simply tender and delivery time - NABI bid low to get a foothold in the region.
Thank god it wasnt Gillig. Orion got DQ. New Flyer was close to winning the bid. NABI was lucky to won because they were the low bid.


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Weren't those VII's supposed to come over to MTAB along with the O5's? What happened with that?
No, MTA just wanted their old Vs.
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i guess Bee-line didnt fall for the 12-15 year warrenty they gave the MTA that i heard about!

It was just what i overheard a few B/Os talkin about 2 months back. but it makes sense.
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Because BeeLine,unlike the MTA,has a damn brain and realized that the Orion's were pure garbage.So they went with a manufactuer that builds better buses than Orion,namely NABI.I'll take a NABI over a O7 any day of the week.
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NABI builds better buses? That is simply not true. (cough)CTA's artics(cough)
I read that. Talking about the articulated joint, was cracking, and they feared the bus was going to break or pull apart, in that section. Sad thing is they built the 416 articulated. Were there any problems with those? CTA sued, and now got New Flyers. Other sad part is no one knows how well will the NovaBus LFS hold up. NovaBus is new to making and designing Articulated buses, especially low floor........
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Old 02-09-2010, 01:28 AM
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The fiasco with CTA and the NABI artics were not NABI's fault.It was CTA's.Like NJT,CTA asked for too much when ordering those buses and thus were doomed to suck from the get go.The NABI 416,NABI 40-LFW and even the NABI 436 are all good,solid model's.Again it always depends on the specs asked for.Ask for screwed up specs,you get a screwed up bus.Its that simple.
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Old 02-09-2010, 01:30 AM
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I read that. Talking about the articulated joint, was cracking, and they feared the bus was going to break or pull apart, in that section. Sad thing is they built the 416 articulated. Were there any problems with those? CTA sued, and now got New Flyers. Other sad part is no one knows how well will the NovaBus LFS hold up. NovaBus is new to making and designing Articulated buses, especially low floor........

I rode the LFS's that CTA has and I was quite impressed with them.They sounded great and rode good.I can say that Novabus has a good money maker on thier hands.
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I read that. Talking about the articulated joint, was cracking, and they feared the bus was going to break or pull apart, in that section. Sad thing is they built the 416 articulated. Were there any problems with those? CTA sued, and now got New Flyers. Other sad part is no one knows how well will the NovaBus LFS hold up. NovaBus is new to making and designing Articulated buses, especially low floor........
Just lowfloor artics, as they made highfloor artic classics for Quebec City and Halifax
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I thought MCI made Classics..........
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MCI did make a very limited, small number of Classic Articulated buses up in Canada. Too bad they could have produced it more if there were orders....
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Did NABI evolve from the old Ikarus bus?
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