Yet another R179 design

The R179 is a New York City Subway car which has not been built or even fully designed at the time of this posting, and so this is my take on what I hope they will look like. The cars are in permanently married 4-car "ABBA" sets. "ABBA" denotes the configuration of the cars, indicating that there is one "A" car or cab car on each end of the set, with two "B" cars or cabless cars in between. Cars are stainless steel with a black "raccoon mask" similar to that on Bee-Line Buses and a blue metal stripe running the length of the car to denote MTA ownership. All cars feature reduced-bucket seats similar to those on the PA5, done in bright blue, with extensive wood paneling on the inside. The front is a bit different from prior models and is based on the M8, with the headlight left as such on the SIR order and converted to a route indicator similar to that on the R160s on the R179MLs.

Lighting on the inside is NTT-style, and the cars are equipped with R160-style interior announcement displays and FINDs. All electronic displays include tricolor LEDs capable of displaying up to 255 colors, and the color used on the front, side, and interior announcement signs is the color of the line on the official MTA subway map. B cars seat 82 people and measure 75' from back wall to back wall, 75' 10" over the overhangs. A cars seat 78, measure 75' 2" from back wall to back wall, 75' 10" over the overhangs, and have full-width cabs with nonpolarized railfan windows.

The A car cabs, located on the #1 end of the A car, are similar to those of the R110A in controller design. Control is single-handle, with eight brake and six power notches and a maximum acceleration of 4.2 m/s/s. Much of the passenger interface technology is controlled via a 9-inch by 9-inch touch screen, and indicator lights note position of the doors. Cabs are partially mirrored, with two consoles available for use. The console on the right contains complete train controls as well as the cab intercom and other passenger interface technology. The console on the left is somewhat stripped down, containing only throttle, brakes, touch screen, A/C, lighting, and door controls. It is possible during training periods to put a TSS or experienced operator in the cab while a student operates and simply have the experienced operator override the other console if a problem should come up. Propulsion is R160B-style Siemens motors, with a maximum speed of 85 mph. Below are some photos. First, we have a 4-car set on a blank background after being completed:

Now for the night shots:

I have also been building a fantasy railway based on the SIR, and so I placed the R179 set on the rails and took some shots for you. Even though the railway is based on SIR, the set is of R179MLs signed up as the to Far Rock, so please excuse the incongruity.

Here is the train on the express track approaching the interlock at Arthur Kill Rd:

Clearing the crossover and entering the station:

Halfway in:

Laying over with both sets of doors open:

Leaving:

Getting to the bridge:

On the bridge:

Blowing through Richmond Valley:

Railfan window views:

At the interlock:

Halfway into Arthur Kill Rd:

At Arthur Kill Rd:

At the bridge:

On the bridge:

At Richmond Valley:

Finally, some bonus shots for all of you TTC fans here (Note: the Gloucesters are NOT mine; they were created and placed on the Internet by wyliepoon.)

Feedback would be greatly appreciated. Also, if anyone would like to get individual cars, an ABBA set, or an 8-car consist PM me and I will happily oblige.

The outside looks a lot like an M7, but the inside looks a lot like an R44. It looks pretty good, but why would you need a throttle on both sides? Also, I think it should be in the middle so the M/M can switch hands.

Here, I think you would run into trouble, since blue (or especially brown) on black is not very well visible. Other than that, original and (A)wesome!

The double control serves a dual purpose; in the event of a malfunction on the main console the M/M can switch to the other console and thus avoid taking the train OOS or sending the conductor up front to spot and doing a train sectionalization. Also, when trainees and rookies first go out on the rails, the second console functions like the second steering wheel and brake system on a driver's ed wheel, allowing anyone who wishes to supervise the ability to override the rookie's console in case of emergency or misstep. As for the position of the throttle, I didn't think of that. Thanks. Also, to NX Express, the idea was to make the colors possible, not required so that if blue, brown, etc. did not display well, the C/R could choose sky blue instead of regular blue for 8 Av and orange instead of brown for operation. However, I don't think we would be seeing much of this car on the Eastern Div considering that it's a 75-footer.

Damn!...great job!

I like the exterior,its definitely a leap from current designs,but the interior would be too dim wit the lighting scheme and faux wood walls.A bright wall and more stylized glass partitions would probably work.The glass partitions I like,because it made the R44 interior unique with a touch of class.

Thanks, guys! The interior would not actually be that dim; SketchUp is really good in a lot of ways but for the life of me I cannot figure out how to make it understand interior lighting. Ideally, the lighting would be similar in intensity and coloration to the lighting on the interior of the R160 and be dimmable for long non-stop trips. If anyone has any tips on how to get lighting in SketchUp to actually illuminate a car, please tell me (No sarcasm intended, just a bit of frustration).

The double control serves a dual purpose; in the event of a malfunction on the main console the M/M can switch to the other console and thus avoid taking the train OOS or sending the conductor up front to spot and doing a train sectionalization. Also, when trainees and rookies first go out on the rails, the second console functions like the second steering wheel and brake system on a driver's ed wheel, allowing anyone who wishes to supervise the ability to override the rookie's console in case of emergency or misstep. As for the position of the throttle, I didn't think of that. Thanks. Also, to NX Express, the idea was to make the colors possible, not required so that if blue, brown, etc. did not display well, the C/R could choose sky blue instead of regular blue for 8 Av and orange instead of brown for operation. However, I don't think we would be seeing much of this car on the Eastern Div considering that it's a 75-footer.

Foamers would think that they just went through the Chrystie Street Connection!

I like the interior.

Foamers would think that they just went through the Chrystie Street Connection!

Speaking of which, the (M)/(V) combo is a huge waste.

Speaking of which, the (M)/(V) combo is a huge waste.

It saves like one trainset and gives the more ridership. But let's not get O/T, there's a million other threads about the combo.