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Ok so new What If (this is not affected by COVID, so overnight service & pre-COVID ridership levels are still in effect)

So Con-Edison decided they're gonna use new software to track electrical usage, and rebooted the system, leaving parts of the city without power for 40 minutes. This inadvertently causes the following to lose power (this is happening 4:40 AM-5:20 AM):

-A OOS (4) train exiting Jerome Av Yard (it was heading towards Woodlawn too, so the southbound and center tracks are both blocked)

-an OOS (B) train switching on the tracks leading to Concourse Yard @ Bedford Park Blvd 

-A northbound (D) train on the switch between the Brighton NB track & the NB 6th Av track @ DeKalb Interlocking

-An OOS (M) train switching onto the express track south of 71 Av, blocking the Jamaica Yard track heading towards Manhattan

-A OOS (G) train leaving Church Av 

-A garbage train on the center track at Parkchester-E 177 St

-An OOS (5) train entering E 180 St station on the center track (essentially, the SB track and center track are both blocked)

-An OOS (7) train exiting Corona Yard and onto the center track at 111 St

-2 OOS trains ((F) and (D))exiting Av X / CI complex, the first one onto the NB track at Av X, the second onto the SB track outside Bay 50 Street (essentially, all tracks leading to Coney Island on the (D) and (F) are blocked.

-A train on the Manhattan bound track at New Lots Av ((3))

-An OOS (L) train exiting the yard, switching onto the Canarsie bound track at E 105 St.

-A work train outside Euclid Av switching onto the express track from the Pitkin Yard track.

-And finally, 2 OOS trains exiting the 207 St Complex; an OOS (A) train on the switch between the yard tracks and SB track outside Dyckman St, and a OOS (1) train heading on the center track between 207 St and 215 St. 

Work trains can tow trains back into the yard, but because all the diesel work trains are in 36 St Yard, it will take at least 2 hours for them to get across the system. And a glitch at Con Edison stalled the system reboot until 1 PM that day.

Reroute away, and try to provide as much service possible to the affected lines!

 

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3 hours ago, B61In2002 said:

Ok so new What If (this is not affected by COVID, so overnight service & pre-COVID ridership levels are still in effect)

So Con-Edison decided they're gonna use new software to track electrical usage, and rebooted the system, leaving parts of the city without power for 40 minutes. This inadvertently causes the following to lose power (this is happening 4:40 AM-5:20 AM):

-A OOS (4) train exiting Jerome Av Yard (it was heading towards Woodlawn too, so the southbound and center tracks are both blocked)

-an OOS (B) train switching on the tracks leading to Concourse Yard @ Bedford Park Blvd 

-A northbound (D) train on the switch between the Brighton NB track & the NB 6th Av track @ DeKalb Interlocking

-An OOS (M) train switching onto the express track south of 71 Av, blocking the Jamaica Yard track heading towards Manhattan

-A OOS (G) train leaving Church Av 

-A garbage train on the center track at Parkchester-E 177 St

-An OOS (5) train entering E 180 St station on the center track (essentially, the SB track and center track are both blocked)

-An OOS (7) train exiting Corona Yard and onto the center track at 111 St

-2 OOS trains ((F) and (D))exiting Av X / CI complex, the first one onto the NB track at Av X, the second onto the SB track outside Bay 50 Street (essentially, all tracks leading to Coney Island on the (D) and (F) are blocked.

-A train on the Manhattan bound track at New Lots Av ((3))

-An OOS (L) train exiting the yard, switching onto the Canarsie bound track at E 105 St.

-A work train outside Euclid Av switching onto the express track from the Pitkin Yard track.

-And finally, 2 OOS trains exiting the 207 St Complex; an OOS (A) train on the switch between the yard tracks and SB track outside Dyckman St, and a OOS (1) train heading on the center track between 207 St and 215 St. 

Work trains can tow trains back into the yard, but because all the diesel work trains are in 36 St Yard, it will take at least 2 hours for them to get across the system. And a glitch at Con Edison stalled the system reboot until 1 PM that day.

Reroute away, and try to provide as much service possible to the affected lines!

 

If the (4) train that is stalled is at Woodlawn, then the northbound (4) ends at Bedford Park Blvd. otherwise (4) trains run from Utica Av to Burnside Av, with some select trains terminating at 161 St-Yankee Stadium

(B) trains run from Brighton Beach to DeKalb Av, then via the (Q) to 96 St-2 Av

(D) trains do not run between Manhattan and Brooklyn. Trains run in 2 sections

1. 205 St to 34 St-Herald Sq

2. Stillwell Av to Atlantic Av-Barclays Center, then via the (Q) to 96 St. * (D) Service from Stillwell Av originates/terminates at Bay Pkwy

(M) - no trains between 71 Av and Queens Plaza. Select northbound (M) trains run via the (J) to Chambers St

(G) trains extended to 18 Av, service frequency reduced: Southbound trains run express from Smith-9 Sts to 18 Av

(F) - Coney Island bound trains run express from Smith-9 St to Church Av. Southbound trains stop at the local track at 71 Av (express service remains normal: frequency reduced). (F) train service ends at Kings Highway (with select trains terminating at Jay St-MetroTech. No <F> .

 

(E) - World Trade Center bound trains run local from Jamaica-Van Wyck to 71 Av (no 179 St rush hour service m)

(R) - service frequency reduced - Service extended to 179 St

 

(5) trains run only from 149 St - Grand Concourse to Flatbush Av (bypassing 138 St northbound - (4) trains make the local stop)

(2) trains run in 2 sections

1. Flatbush Av to 3 Av-149 St

2. 241 St to E180 St

 

(6)<6>

express <6> service suspended

some northbound (6) trains terminate at Hunts Point Av

 

(3) trains run only from 148 St to Utica Av

(A) trains stop at the local track at Euclid Av: no train service north of 181 St or 168 St

(1) trains run from South Ferry to 168 St

(L) trains terminate at Broadway Junction, New Lots Av, or Myrtle-Wyckoff Avs.

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On 8/9/2020 at 11:24 PM, danig1220 said:

What if the MTA goes broke and the Feds can’t lift it back to life, How to you go about  with the subway. What lines do we cutback? What lines to we discontinue? What do we do with the elevated lines that could be discontinued?

I had already done up something like this:

(1) runs as it does now

(2) runs as it does now EXCEPT for running local northbound between 72nd and 96th Street

(3) runs as a shuttle at all times between 96th Street-Broadway (terminating on the uptown express track) and 148th Street-Lenox Terminal

(4) runs all times between Woodlawn and New Lots Avenue (express in Manhattan except late nights, local in Brooklyn)

(5) is truncated to Dyre Avenue-Brooklyn Bridge (express 125th Street-Union Square, local Union Square-Brooklyn Bridge)

(6) and (7) run as they do now EXCEPT for NO peak-direction express service

(A) operates as a full-time local between 207th Street and Far Rockaway.  

(B)(R)(W) and (Z) are eliminated.

(C) operates as a shuttle at all times between Lefferts Boulevard and Euclid Avenue EXCEPT rush hours when it operates as an express between Lefferts Boulevard and 34th Street-Penn Station. 

(D)(E)(F) (L) and (Q) operate as they do now.

(G) returns to operating to 71st-Continental at all times except late night when it is truncated to Court Square or Queens Plaza.

(H) becomes an official line and operates as a shuttle between Rockaway Park and Euclid Avenue at all times except rush hours when it operates to/from 34th Street-Penn Station as an express.

(J) is truncated to Chambers Street at all times.

(brownM) returns to brown and runs at all times between Metropolitan Avenue and 95th Street-Bay Ridge

(N) runs full-time via the tunnel as it currently does late nights.

Franklin Avenue (S) operates as it does now.

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10 hours ago, Wallyhorse said:

I had already done up something like this:

(1) runs as it does now

(2) runs as it does now EXCEPT for running local northbound between 72nd and 96th Street

(3) runs as a shuttle at all times between 96th Street-Broadway (terminating on the uptown express track) and 148th Street-Lenox Terminal

(4) runs all times between Woodlawn and New Lots Avenue (express in Manhattan except late nights, local in Brooklyn)

(5) is truncated to Dyre Avenue-Brooklyn Bridge (express 125th Street-Union Square, local Union Square-Brooklyn Bridge)

(6) and (7) run as they do now EXCEPT for NO peak-direction express service

(A) operates as a full-time local between 207th Street and Far Rockaway.  

(B)(R)(W) and (Z) are eliminated.

(C) operates as a shuttle at all times between Lefferts Boulevard and Euclid Avenue EXCEPT rush hours when it operates as an express between Lefferts Boulevard and 34th Street-Penn Station. 

(D)(E)(F) (L) and (Q) operate as they do now.

(G) returns to operating to 71st-Continental at all times except late night when it is truncated to Court Square or Queens Plaza.

(H) becomes an official line and operates as a shuttle between Rockaway Park and Euclid Avenue at all times except rush hours when it operates to/from 34th Street-Penn Station as an express.

(J) is truncated to Chambers Street at all times.

(brownM) returns to brown and runs at all times between Metropolitan Avenue and 95th Street-Bay Ridge

(N) runs full-time via the tunnel as it currently does late nights.

Franklin Avenue (S) operates as it does now.

Wow this is actually really good, it is really thought out. You even made sure to have trains terminate at the appropriate location when it came to the (C) and (H). Although, I would argue having 2 different trains terminating at Euclid is a bit too much since that is 2 separate trains terminating while having an (A) train running along side it as well, but then again, this is the (A) we're talking about since it's usually the most screwed in Queens anyways. The same with the (G)(brownM), and (R) with the (G) solely on QBL local that way it doesn't get interfered with the (E)(brownM) solely on 4th Av local which is, I'm going to say it, probably going to be more reliable than the (R) is now, and the (R) just cut.

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10 hours ago, Wallyhorse said:

I had already done up something like this:

(1) runs as it does now

(2) runs as it does now EXCEPT for running local northbound between 72nd and 96th Street

(3) runs as a shuttle at all times between 96th Street-Broadway (terminating on the uptown express track) and 148th Street-Lenox Terminal

(4) runs all times between Woodlawn and New Lots Avenue (express in Manhattan except late nights, local in Brooklyn)

(5) is truncated to Dyre Avenue-Brooklyn Bridge (express 125th Street-Union Square, local Union Square-Brooklyn Bridge)

(6) and (7) run as they do now EXCEPT for NO peak-direction express service

(A) operates as a full-time local between 207th Street and Far Rockaway.  

(B)(R)(W) and (Z) are eliminated.

(C) operates as a shuttle at all times between Lefferts Boulevard and Euclid Avenue EXCEPT rush hours when it operates as an express between Lefferts Boulevard and 34th Street-Penn Station. 

(D)(E)(F) (L) and (Q) operate as they do now.

(G) returns to operating to 71st-Continental at all times except late night when it is truncated to Court Square or Queens Plaza.

(H) becomes an official line and operates as a shuttle between Rockaway Park and Euclid Avenue at all times except rush hours when it operates to/from 34th Street-Penn Station as an express.

(J) is truncated to Chambers Street at all times.

(brownM) returns to brown and runs at all times between Metropolitan Avenue and 95th Street-Bay Ridge

(N) runs full-time via the tunnel as it currently does late nights.

Franklin Avenue (S) operates as it does now.

Pretty good, just have a few questions.

 

Why terminate the (3) at 96 when you can terminate at 42, which would be easier to turn trains at, compared to ending it at 96 where it's in the way of the (1) and (2)?

You should do a split service thing with the (M) and (brownM), so Bushwick and Williamsburg keep service to Midtown and Queens while also providing service to Lower Manhattan & South Brooklyn. 

The (G) cant be the sole local for QBL. Could the (Q) have split service between 96 St and Forest Hills?

I like the idea with the (A)(C)(H), but Euclid is gonna be a mess with 3 services constantly switching in and out. Could the (H) instead be a Rockaway Shuttle between Far Rockaway and B 116 St? Furthermore, can the (A) and (C) switch southern terminals? With the (A) being the sole local for long stretches, it would be more logical to reduce its number of stops or at least its mileage. In this case, it would be smarter for a full time local to operate Lefferts-207. Riders from the Rockaway can transfer.

Otherwise, great job!

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14 hours ago, Wallyhorse said:

I had already done up something like this:

(1) runs as it does now

(2) runs as it does now EXCEPT for running local northbound between 72nd and 96th Street

(3) runs as a shuttle at all times between 96th Street-Broadway (terminating on the uptown express track) and 148th Street-Lenox Terminal

(4) runs all times between Woodlawn and New Lots Avenue (express in Manhattan except late nights, local in Brooklyn)

(5) is truncated to Dyre Avenue-Brooklyn Bridge (express 125th Street-Union Square, local Union Square-Brooklyn Bridge)

(6) and (7) run as they do now EXCEPT for NO peak-direction express service

(A) operates as a full-time local between 207th Street and Far Rockaway.  

(B)(R)(W) and (Z) are eliminated.

(C) operates as a shuttle at all times between Lefferts Boulevard and Euclid Avenue EXCEPT rush hours when it operates as an express between Lefferts Boulevard and 34th Street-Penn Station. 

(D)(E)(F) (L) and (Q) operate as they do now.

(G) returns to operating to 71st-Continental at all times except late night when it is truncated to Court Square or Queens Plaza.

(H) becomes an official line and operates as a shuttle between Rockaway Park and Euclid Avenue at all times except rush hours when it operates to/from 34th Street-Penn Station as an express.

(J) is truncated to Chambers Street at all times.

(brownM) returns to brown and runs at all times between Metropolitan Avenue and 95th Street-Bay Ridge

(N) runs full-time via the tunnel as it currently does late nights.

Franklin Avenue (S) operates as it does now.

I would just eliminate the (3) and close the northern most two stations 145th and 148th. This way the (2) can remain express in Manhattan.

The (5) would most likely be truncated to Bowling Green unless it runs local with the (6) . If stuff gets real bad, the (5) can be cut completely except btw Dyre and E180th

(6) and (7) Cutting the express wouldn't save any money. Unless there is a cooresponding reduction in local frequencies.

(C) I would make it local to 145th rush hours. During this time (A) will run express. Other times, no service. (A) will be every 20 min to Far Rock and every 20 to RP

(G) I wouldn't bother extending it to 71st

(H) No point, keep shuttle as is. Rockaway Park shuttle will be eliminated during rush hours

(M) I would keep as is

(R) I would implement shuttle between 59th St and 95th St and keep the (N) as local

 

 

 

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14 hours ago, B61In2002 said:

Pretty good, just have a few questions.

 

Why terminate the (3) at 96 when you can terminate at 42, which would be easier to turn trains at, compared to ending it at 96 where it's in the way of the (1) and (2)?

You should do a split service thing with the (M) and (brownM), so Bushwick and Williamsburg keep service to Midtown and Queens while also providing service to Lower Manhattan & South Brooklyn. 

The (G) cant be the sole local for QBL. Could the (Q) have split service between 96 St and Forest Hills?

I like the idea with the (A)(C)(H), but Euclid is gonna be a mess with 3 services constantly switching in and out. Could the (H) instead be a Rockaway Shuttle between Far Rockaway and B 116 St? Furthermore, can the (A) and (C) switch southern terminals? With the (A) being the sole local for long stretches, it would be more logical to reduce its number of stops or at least its mileage. In this case, it would be smarter for a full time local to operate Lefferts-207. Riders from the Rockaway can transfer.

Otherwise, great job!

Thanks!

The (3) terminating at 96th is so that the (1) and (2) are not interfered with at all southbound and the only interference northbound is the (2) stopping at 79th and 86th and with the (1) coming in on the local track at 96th.  Terminating the (3) at Times Square forces the (2) to be local.

Originally, I was looking at the (J) running Jamaica Center-Bay Ridge but no matter what it makes for a very long route.  The (brownM) in this format is shorter so that's why it goes back to Nassau, essentially running the old "bankers special" route.  The alternative to this would be to keep the (R), but make it brown and have it essentially run the old <RR> "bankers special" route between Bay Ridge and either Essex with perhaps in rush hours some "Brown (R)" trains running to Broadway Junction, which actually would also be done in that scenario for yard runs (where such trains remain in service past Essex to Broadway Junction and would be noted in the schedule) since this (R) would be based out of ENY yard anyway. Doing that allows the (M) to remain on 6th Avenue to 71st-Continental, though it also could be done where the (M) runs as it does now 19/5 but late nights and weekends, the "Brown (R)" replaces the (M) along those routes and runs Metropolitan-Bay Ridge, absorbing the current (M) shuttle routes. The (G) would otherwise be on QB, possibly 24/7.  If you had to make the (G) the sole QB local line, maybe then you have the (E) running local with the (G) at all times and have the (G) run to 179 at all times while the (F) runs express its whole route. 

The idea of the (A)(C) and (H) is the (C) and (H) between them can both easily terminate at Euclid or 34th Street, even in rush hours.  The (A) would be a very long route but that currently is the case in late nights anyway.  

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18 hours ago, B61In2002 said:

Pretty good, just have a few questions.

 

Why terminate the (3) at 96 when you can terminate at 42, which would be easier to turn trains at, compared to ending it at 96 where it's in the way of the (1) and (2)?

You should do a split service thing with the (M) and (brownM), so Bushwick and Williamsburg keep service to Midtown and Queens while also providing service to Lower Manhattan & South Brooklyn. 

The (G) cant be the sole local for QBL. Could the (Q) have split service between 96 St and Forest Hills?

I like the idea with the (A)(C)(H), but Euclid is gonna be a mess with 3 services constantly switching in and out. Could the (H) instead be a Rockaway Shuttle between Far Rockaway and B 116 St? Furthermore, can the (A) and (C) switch southern terminals? With the (A) being the sole local for long stretches, it would be more logical to reduce its number of stops or at least its mileage. In this case, it would be smarter for a full time local to operate Lefferts-207. Riders from the Rockaway can transfer.

Otherwise, great job!

There is no way to have (Q) trains running between 96 St and Forest Hills because there are no tracks going there. You're probably thinking, "Yes there is, (F) trains run via 63 St", well you are correct, but (Q) trains would have to switch onto the (F) line coming from 57 St-7 Av.  Although, I do agree splitting (M) (btw the (M) is just an extended (V) train) so just basically call the (M) as the (V) with the (brownM) brought back for 95 St. If anything, just run (E) trains to run local and (F) staying as it is. (E) Train is a short line so it wouldn't be as bad and this also help with deinterlining QBL with Express train and Local not being interfered or at least not much.

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14 hours ago, Mtatransit said:

I would just eliminate the (3) and close the northern most two stations 145th and 148th. This way the (2) can remain express in Manhattan.

The (5) would most likely be truncated to Bowling Green unless it runs local with the (6) . If stuff gets real bad, the (5) can be cut completely except btw Dyre and E180th

(6) and (7) Cutting the express wouldn't save any money. Unless there is a cooresponding reduction in local frequencies.

(C) I would make it local to 145th rush hours. During this time (A) will run express. Other times, no service. (A) will be every 20 min to Far Rock and every 20 to RP

(G) I wouldn't bother extending it to 71st

(H) No point, keep shuttle as is. Rockaway Park shuttle will be eliminated during rush hours

(M) I would keep as is

(R) I would implement shuttle between 59th St and 95th St and keep the (N) as local

 

 

 

I would have to argue against keeping the (5) as a shuttle as COVID prove the Bronx needed extra service so just keep the (5) all the way to 

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On 8/24/2020 at 4:40 PM, Vulturious said:

There is no way to have (Q) trains running between 96 St and Forest Hills because there are no tracks going there.

That isnt what I said, I said splitting the northern terminals (i.e. trains run CI-96 St or CI-71 Av). Obviously there isnt a 3 way switch. 

On 8/24/2020 at 4:40 PM, Vulturious said:

If anything, just run (E) trains to run local and (F) staying as it is. (E) Train is a short line so it wouldn't be as bad and this also help with deinterlining QBL with Express train and Local not being interfered or at least not much.

To an extent? Iirc (E) and (F) would have to switch around each other at Briarwood - Kew Gardens, no? Let me know if I'm wrong on that front.

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16 hours ago, B61In2002 said:

That isnt what I said, I said splitting the northern terminals (i.e. trains run CI-96 St or CI-71 Av). Obviously there isnt a 3 way switch. 

To an extent? Iirc (E) and (F) would have to switch around each other at Briarwood - Kew Gardens, no? Let me know if I'm wrong on that front.

No, my idea was to have the (E) stay in Late Night service 24/7 while the (F) runs its normal service. Like I said since the (E) is a short line, it wouldn't really be all that bad because it's not long unlike the (R) with having over 40 stops and the (E) with 30 something. It would be interfered by the (V) or (G), either works, but even then it would allow for people to have a train running to Manhattan. Although, in this scenario, I would have the (V) run via 63rd and the (F) via 53rd to help deinterline QBL further. I don't know where to have the (V) terminate however since it can't run via Williamsburg to Metropolitan, I would've said have it run to Church av, but that would've made (F) trains run express (which would actually help Brooklyn riders even more south of Church) or run to Euclid having the (V) switch at Jay St which makes (C) trains run to Lefferts. This is making more service instead of less, but again there isn't really much to make sure everyone doesn't get screwed, but at the end of the day, the (MTA) would have no choice because they didn't get the funding they desperately needed.

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Here's a new one:

Context:

It is a Saturday, at 10:15 PM. There has been a fire in the DeKalb Ave, which has damaged signals and switches.

(E) trains are terminating at Essex Street on the (F).

Since the Rutger Street Tubes are out of service, in both directions, (F) trains are running on the (A) in both directions. 

The Broadway express tracks south of Prince Street are out of service because of signal maintenance. 

Uptown (D) trains are running on the (C) between West 4th Street and 145th Street. The 6th Avenue express track can not be used for any duration. 

There is also no (G) service between Court Square and Bedford Nostrand Avenues for that weekend.

This is expected to take three to four days to repair. Adjust services accordingly. Assume regular weekday daytime service when making your weekday reroutes. 

 

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10 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

Here's a new one:

Context:

It is a Saturday, at 10:15 PM. There has been a fire in the DeKalb Ave, which has damaged signals and switches.

(E) trains are terminating at Essex Street on the (F).

Since the Rutger Street Tubes are out of service, in both directions, (F) trains are running on the (A) in both directions. 

The Broadway express tracks south of Prince Street are out of service because of signal maintenance. 

Uptown (D) trains are running on the (C) between West 4th Street and 145th Street. The 6th Avenue express track can not be used for any duration. 

There is also no (G) service between Court Square and Bedford Nostrand Avenues for that weekend.

This is expected to take three to four days to repair. Adjust services accordingly. Assume regular weekday daytime service when making your weekday reroutes. 

 

so are we to do reroutes for the weekend and the weekday ?

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12 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

Here's a new one:

Context:

It is a Saturday, at 10:15 PM. There has been a fire in the DeKalb Ave, which has damaged signals and switches.

(E) trains are terminating at Essex Street on the (F).

Since the Rutger Street Tubes are out of service, in both directions, (F) trains are running on the (A) in both directions. 

The Broadway express tracks south of Prince Street are out of service because of signal maintenance. 

Uptown (D) trains are running on the (C) between West 4th Street and 145th Street. The 6th Avenue express track can not be used for any duration. 

There is also no (G) service between Court Square and Bedford Nostrand Avenues for that weekend.

This is expected to take three to four days to repair. Adjust services accordingly. Assume regular weekday daytime service when making your weekday reroutes. 

 

Which tracks at DeKalb are affected? Otherwise:

(A): unaffected (to an extent)

(B): suspended.

(C): Suspended for the rest of the weekend. Reduced weekday service for the weekdays affected, running express between 34 St - Canal St. 

(D): for the rest of the weekend, will operate Essex St - 205 St via CPW & 8 Av Lcl and Atlantic - Coney Island. For the weekdays affected, will operate 205 St - 2 Av via 8 Av Lcl.

(E): service will be suspended for the duration of the weekend. Weekday service operates Jamaica Center - Delancey St.

(F): trains are rerouted to Euclid Av via 8 Av Lcl & Fulton St Lcl for duration of the weekend. Weekday service operates in a 60-40 service, with 60% of the TPH operating via Crosstown, and 40% via 6 Av Lcl, running via Cranberry Tubes. 

(G): service increased and extended to Coney Island for the rest of the weekend. Suspended for the weekdays affected.

(M): service will operate at a slightly increased frequency & normal weekday routing for the rest of the weekend. Increased service during the weekdays affected.

(N): reduced to a shuttle between Coney Island and 59 St.

(Q): Express via Tunnel. Service will be reduced, and most trains heading into Manhattan will short turn at Prospect Park or Broad St.

(R): normal service.

(W): for the weekdays affected, extended to Coney Island via 4 Av Exp & West End. Service will be reduced to accommodate for service in Montague.

 

 

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4 hours ago, B61In2002 said:

Which tracks at DeKalb are affected? Otherwise:

(A): unaffected (to an extent)

(B): suspended.

(C): Suspended for the rest of the weekend. Reduced weekday service for the weekdays affected, running express between 34 St - Canal St. 

(D): for the rest of the weekend, will operate Essex St - 205 St via CPW & 8 Av Lcl and Atlantic - Coney Island. For the weekdays affected, will operate 205 St - 2 Av via 8 Av Lcl.

(E): service will be suspended for the duration of the weekend. Weekday service operates Jamaica Center - Delancey St.

(F): trains are rerouted to Euclid Av via 8 Av Lcl & Fulton St Lcl for duration of the weekend. Weekday service operates in a 60-40 service, with 60% of the TPH operating via Crosstown, and 40% via 6 Av Lcl, running via Cranberry Tubes. 

(G): service increased and extended to Coney Island for the rest of the weekend. Suspended for the weekdays affected.

(M): service will operate at a slightly increased frequency & normal weekday routing for the rest of the weekend. Increased service during the weekdays affected.

(N): reduced to a shuttle between Coney Island and 59 St.

(Q): Express via Tunnel. Service will be reduced, and most trains heading into Manhattan will short turn at Prospect Park or Broad St.

(R): normal service.

(W): for the weekdays affected, extended to Coney Island via 4 Av Exp & West End. Service will be reduced to accommodate for service in Montague.

 

 

I thought that weekday service with the exception of the DeKalb Fiasco was supposed to be normal

 

For weekends:

(D) trains rerouted via 8 Av Local and run in 2 sections:

205 St to 59 St-Columbus Circle, then via the (C) to West 4 St and via the (F) to 2 Av

36 St to Stillwell Av

(N) trains run in 2 sections:

Astoria-Ditmars Blvd to Whitehall St

59 St-4 Av to Coney Island

(Q) trains run in 2 sections:

96 St to Canal St (via Broadway Local)

Prospect Park to Coney Island

(R) trains run in 2 sections:

71 Av to Jay St-MetroTech

36 St to Bay Ridge-95 St

 

 

Weekdays:

The northern portion of the (D) will run normally from 59 St-Columbus Circle to 34 St-Herald Sq, the last stop (assuming the 6 Av Express tracks can be used for weekday service). If not, then the (D) would have to run to World Trade Center via Local after 145 St ( (C) trains running express south of 59 St). Southern shuttle (D) train from 36 St to Stillwell Av continues.

(B) trains suspended

(F) trains should have the Rutgers Tunnel running normally, so normal weekday service for the (E) (F). **Otherwise, keep the (E) running to Delancey St and the (F) will be rerouted via 53 St and 8 Av Express to run to Brooklyn. In this case, the (C) would be suspended to make room for the (F) trains. 

(M) trains run normal weekday service

(Q) trains run in 2 sections:

96 St-2 Av to 34 St-Herald Sq (bypassing 49 St)

Prospect Park to Stillwell Av

(N) trains run the same service pattern it ran on the weekend

(R) trains run the same service pattern it ran on the weekend

(W) trains could theoretically run normal weekday service from Astoria to Whitehall St (if the (N) is cut back to Canal St). Otherwise, suspended.

 

 

**This plan assumes that NO trains can pass thru DeKalb Av 

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On 9/1/2020 at 8:57 AM, darkstar8983 said:

I thought that weekday service with the exception of the DeKalb Fiasco was supposed to be normal

 

For weekends:

(D) trains rerouted via 8 Av Local and run in 2 sections:

205 St to 59 St-Columbus Circle, then via the (C) to West 4 St and via the (F) to 2 Av

36 St to Stillwell Av

(N) trains run in 2 sections:

Astoria-Ditmars Blvd to Whitehall St

59 St-4 Av to Coney Island

(Q) trains run in 2 sections:

96 St to Canal St (via Broadway Local)

Prospect Park to Coney Island

(R) trains run in 2 sections:

71 Av to Jay St-MetroTech

36 St to Bay Ridge-95 St

 

 

Weekdays:

The northern portion of the (D) will run normally from 59 St-Columbus Circle to 34 St-Herald Sq, the last stop (assuming the 6 Av Express tracks can be used for weekday service). If not, then the (D) would have to run to World Trade Center via Local after 145 St ( (C) trains running express south of 59 St). Southern shuttle (D) train from 36 St to Stillwell Av continues.

(B) trains suspended

(F) trains should have the Rutgers Tunnel running normally, so normal weekday service for the (E) (F). **Otherwise, keep the (E) running to Delancey St and the (F) will be rerouted via 53 St and 8 Av Express to run to Brooklyn. In this case, the (C) would be suspended to make room for the (F) trains. 

(M) trains run normal weekday service

(Q) trains run in 2 sections:

96 St-2 Av to 34 St-Herald Sq (bypassing 49 St)

Prospect Park to Stillwell Av

(N) trains run the same service pattern it ran on the weekend

(R) trains run the same service pattern it ran on the weekend

(W) trains could theoretically run normal weekday service from Astoria to Whitehall St (if the (N) is cut back to Canal St). Otherwise, suspended.

 

 

**This plan assumes that NO trains can pass thru DeKalb Av 

They said signals and switches are affected. 

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