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[checkmatechamp13]

I agree. Either that or Proof-of-Payment machines like the ones used for +SBS. But either way something has to be done asap about it.

Ugh. You sound like VG8.

In any case, POP would likely be cheaper than turnstiles, since you have a lot of stations with very low usage (especially towards the southern end of the line). But the thing is that you might not get that much revenue when you consider the cost of the fare inspectors. I mean, a good portion of the riders get off at St. George and Tompkinsville, and a lot of the other riders are transferring to buses. (And aside from that, it would mean all that money spent on installing turnstiles at Tompkinsville would be wasted)

Well it seems like they are going to install turnstiles at Grasmere once it's rebuilt. They are also considering putting them at Eltingville.

It seems like it would complicate matters, though. I mean, if somebody's traveling between Eltingville and Tompkinsville, then you have to program it not to take off an extra fare.

Last time I checked I believe five other stations are getting rehabbed as well. I believe they are also rehabbing the bridge that passes over the unbuilt Willowbrook Parkway Extension.

Where is that? Great Kills?

They did collect tickets (or if not fares) before on board the SIROTA, but stopped doing it and gave people a free ride except St. George (And now Tompskin)

You guys do realize you have to pay to leave at Tomkins and St. George too right?

It's Tompkinsville, not Tomkins.

[Amtrak7]

I agree. Either that or Proof-of-Payment machines like the ones used for +SBS. But either way something has to be done asap about it.

POP is a really good idea.

[mark1447]

Ugh. You sound like VG8.

In any case, POP would likely be cheaper than turnstiles, since you have a lot of stations with very low usage (especially towards the southern end of the line). But the thing is that you might not get that much revenue when you consider the cost of the fare inspectors. I mean, a good portion of the riders get off at St. George and Tompkinsville, and a lot of the other riders are transferring to buses. (And aside from that, it would mean all that money spent on installing turnstiles at Tompkinsville would be wasted)



It seems like it would complicate matters, though. I mean, if somebody's traveling between Eltingville and Tompkinsville, then you have to program it not to take off an extra fare.



Where is that? Great Kills?




It's Tompkinsville, not Tomkins.

I know that, I sometimes don't write ville..

[S78 via Hylan]

They should put MVM's at Grasmere. It would give people quick access to metrocards rather than having to walk to a neighborhood store and it'll also give them the option of refilling their cards too.

[KeystoneRegional]

I know that, I sometimes don't write ville..

It's better to write in full or some people would be lost, I even started to stop say "Jammie" or "Stammie" and EWR people people were lost on my nicknames to Jamaica and Stamford and Newark City respectively. Just sayin'!

[mark1447]

It's better to write in full or some people would be lost, I even started to stop say "Jammie" or "Stammie" and EWR people people were lost on my nicknames to Jamaica and Stamford and Newark City respectively. Just sayin'!

If people understand it, then that all there is.

Edit: Of course if this were to be written for a professional discussion, then yeah. But here nah. At least in certain situations.

Edited by mark1447, 23 April 2012 - 12:51 PM.

[KeystoneRegional]

They did collect tickets (or if not fares) before on board the SIROTA, but stopped doing it and gave people a free ride except St. George (And now Tompskin)

Well, it's because to let Staten Island still be New York and enter in New York City, still if the want to implement fares throughout, I'll agree with ticket machines so these bulky space taking and money guzzling fare gates wouldn't be needed. Just put ticket machines like those on the +SBS+.

If people understand it, then that all there is.

Edit: Of course if this were to be written for a professional discussion, then yeah. But here nah. At least in certain situations.

Well still, write a bit professionally to reduce confusion or people learning the wrong way to say it, we learn Language Arts for a reason, just saying!

[mark1447]

Well, it's because to let Staten Island still be New York and enter in New York City, still if the want to implement fares throughout, I'll agree with ticket machines so these bulky space taking and money guzzling fare gates wouldn't be needed. Just put ticket machines like those on the +SBS+.

If thats done, then surely this would be more like NJTs LRT.

Edited by mark1447, 25 April 2012 - 01:18 AM.

[CDTA]

Yet again, I bring up the fact that we still have Pay Exists at Tompkinsville and St. George. Until those are gone, they aren't making you ay anywhere else.

[KeystoneRegional]

If thats done, then surely this would be more like NJTs LRT.

I'd advocate it for cost saving measures, these Machines would just be Machines on the platforms. You'll not have flow of passenger traffic disruptions due to gate and turnstile maintenance and require station agents. This will also make sure the future HBLR - SIRTOA thing would be integrated easily and efficiently by implementing zones by County.

Edited by KeystoneRegional, 26 April 2012 - 02:09 AM.

[S78 via Hylan]

The official opening of the temporary platform at Grasmere is due to open this Monday, May 21 at 12 Noon.

[mark1447]

The official opening of the temporary platform at Grasmere is due to open this Monday, May 21 at 12 Noon.

I thought it was already opened?

[S78 via Hylan]

I thought it was already opened?

I thought so too. It was supposed to open on the 7th, but for whatever reason, the opening date was moved to the 21st.

Here's the link:

http://www.mta.info/..._MajRepairs.htm

Edited by S78 via Hylan, 18 May 2012 - 01:09 PM.

[VWM]

Once all stations have turnstiles (which they should), paid exit wont be necessary

[S78 via Hylan]

This weeked, The SIR will only run between Old Town and Tottenvile, starting at 9PM tonight to accomodate the construction at Grasmere.