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[Far Rock Depot]

There will be lay up tracks west of the 125th station, and north of the turn at 2nd Ave and 125th. If you go thru the documentation about sas on the mta website, they state what yards and lay ups trains will use.

[Brighton Express]

Any news on the 2 Av Subway?

[Lance]

If there was, it would've been posted.

[Brighton Express]

Ok smarty. You got me. 2020.

[6 Lexington Ave]

Here's some news:

The MTA seems to have dramatically cut the amount of visible dust from construction of the first phase of the Second Avenue subway but as with any major construction project, there are still complaints. NY1's Tina Redwine filed the following report.

There is still noise but NY1 recently found no visible dust being generated by construction of the Second Avenue subway.
That's a big change from back in April, when we easily found dust flying while debris was loaded onto trucks and transported uncovered.
"I'm glad that they're containing all the dust," said resident DeCarlo Wilson. "It's healthier. I have asthma so trust me, I am very, very glad with all these, what is it, refinements that they're doing."
Over the past several weeks, NY1 has seen contractors carefully transferring debris to dump trucks without creating any visible dust, police officers checking that trucks are covering their debris before heading out and workers hosing down construction sites.
But at Big Daddy's Diner, they say there's still plenty of dust. The dust may be invisible to the naked eye but a service technician told NY1 he is cleaning condensers at least once a week when, before construction, they needed cleaning just once a year.
"If it goes untreated, it could kill the unit," he said. "It'll overheat and the compressors could die. It's very costly."
The chef at Big Daddy's said there are other costs. He said business is down 75 percent.
A spokeswoman said the city forced them to shut down their outdoor cafe because the construction has taken up much of the sidewalk. And foot traffic is so low that they've had to close for breakfast.
"We have bright lights," said Julie Orchier of Branded Restaurants and Big Daddy's. "We have great signs. Our decoration is fun and festive. But people can't see it."
The MTA said things should improve soon, when it finishes the kind of blasting that causes most of the dust.
Big Daddy's isn't the only business up here feeling pain from the subway construction. Whether or not the construction is solely to blame, the Chamber of Commerce says more stores closed along Second Avenue this May than last. Meanwhile, vacancy rates have been improving on nearby Third and First Avenues.

Source:
http://www.ny1.com/c...till-struggling

Edited by 6 Lexington Ave, 18 July 2012 - 04:47 AM.

[StevenFrancis]

SAS
What I think the MTA should do is make the train, become a "loop train" that goes around all 5 boroughs, including Staten Island, I think it will connect people from one borough to another especially Staten Island quicker, instead of having to wait 20-35 minutes on a ferry ride, let alone waiting another 20-35 for it to arrive, meaning on average, people wait 40-70 minutes for one ferry, either way the west side of Staten Island needs a train, the SIR only serves the east side. In the matter of the Bronx, it needs another B Division train, only the train, serves the Bronx full time, the only comes around during weekday rush hours, also Throgs Neck is in desperate need for more service, it only has the Bx40/42 and BxM9, I first thought it should go to Co-Op City, like around Bartow Avenue, but Co-Op City already has enough connections, the runs close by and there is the Bx12 +Select Bus Service+, Bx23, Bx26, Bx28, Bx29, Bx30, Bx38, Q50, and BxM7, the Bx12 +Select Bus Service+, Bx23, Bx29, and Q50 serve a connection to the train at Pelham Bay Park and the BxM7 connects to Midtown Manhattan, so it doesn't need the train, but in the Bronx, only the Q44 and Q50 bus goes to Queens, so I think the train so go from Throgs Neck to Queens, the it should go through the middle of Queens, the continue to Brooklyn, back to Staten Island, the back to Manhattan, there should be trains headed southbound from Manhattan and northbound from Manhattan to reduce waiting times, and if an additional express service should be added during rush hours, it should be added, I think this will make the city move much faster, the only problem, is that it will cost a lot of $$$, so I dont know if it will happen, but it's just a suggestion.

[Tokkemon]

I like paragraphs. You should learn to like them too.

[Threxx]

SAS
What I think the MTA should do is make the train, become a "loop train" that goes around all 5 boroughs, including Staten Island, I think it will connect people from one borough to another especially Staten Island quicker, instead of having to wait 20-35 minutes on a ferry ride, let alone waiting another 20-35 for it to arrive, meaning on average, people wait 40-70 minutes for one ferry, either way the west side of Staten Island needs a train, the SIR only serves the east side. In the matter of the Bronx, it needs another B Division train, only the train, serves the Bronx full time, the only comes around during weekday rush hours, also Throgs Neck is in desperate need for more service, it only has the Bx40/42 and BxM9, I first thought it should go to Co-Op City, like around Bartow Avenue, but Co-Op City already has enough connections, the runs close by and there is the Bx12 +Select Bus Service+, Bx23, Bx26, Bx28, Bx29, Bx30, Bx38, Q50, and BxM7, the Bx12 +Select Bus Service+, Bx23, Bx29, and Q50 serve a connection to the train at Pelham Bay Park and the BxM7 connects to Midtown Manhattan, so it doesn't need the train, but in the Bronx, only the Q44 and Q50 bus goes to Queens, so I think the train so go from Throgs Neck to Queens, the it should go through the middle of Queens, the continue to Brooklyn, back to Staten Island, the back to Manhattan, there should be trains headed southbound from Manhattan and northbound from Manhattan to reduce waiting times, and if an additional express service should be added during rush hours, it should be added, I think this will make the city move much faster, the only problem, is that it will cost a lot of $$$, so I dont know if it will happen, but it's just a suggestion.

Hold on, let me just...

OK, have my anger blocker on!

Novel idea, but a number of problems/uncertainties:

1. The Triboro RX to SI idea is similar. However, it has many roadblocks as it uses Amtrak rail.
2. A route going through all 5 boros would be too long and too unreliable as a local subway route.
3. Like you said, it's at the border of fantasy because of costs. Not to be a killjoy, but dream on.
4. The current is fine as is. How would this route work using Second Avenue anyway?

[Quill Depot]

Loops are useless. They are hard to put in a big city. Sorry.

[Tokkemon]

Loops are useless. They are hard to put in a big city. Sorry.

London, Moscow, Chicago, Tokyo, Sydney, Singapore, Beijing, Madrid, Berlin, Seoul, Shanghai seem to do just fine.

For more info: http://mic-ro.com/me...metrorings.html

Edited by Tokkemon, 20 July 2012 - 06:17 PM.

[CenSin]

There will be lay up tracks west of the 125th station, and north of the turn at 2nd Ave and 125th. If you go thru the documentation about sas on the mta website, they state what yards and lay ups trains will use.

The yard is basically going to be placed right below 129 Street on Second Avenue. Two tracks from that same yard will be extended to the Bronx.

I believe there will be a yard at 125th Street and the will most likely by R179's or R211's.

As a grammar nazi master, I must correct the quoted post. Corrections follow:

"I believe there will be a yard at 125 Street, and the will most likely feature R179 or R211 subway cars."

[Threxx]

As a grammar nazi master, I must correct the quoted post. Corrections follow:

"I believe there will be a yard at 125 Street, and the will most likely feature R179 or R211 subway cars."

Very funny.

[StevenFrancis]

Hold on, let me just...

OK, have my anger blocker on!

Novel idea, but a number of problems/uncertainties:

1. The Triboro RX to SI idea is similar. However, it has many roadblocks as it uses Amtrak rail.
2. A route going through all 5 boros would be too long and too unreliable as a local subway route.
3. Like you said, it's at the border of fantasy because of costs. Not to be a killjoy, but dream on.
4. The current is fine as is. How would this route work using Second Avenue anyway?

Well I was just making a suggestion, but I do think at least the should serve Throgs Neck of the Bronx, it was proposed and still debated, Im not saying that the route serving Second Avenue solely wouldnt be good enough, I mean the and lines are already over crowded, and you dont have to get angry at me, it was just a thought.

[Brighton Express]

There will be lay up tracks west of the 125th station, and north of the turn at 2nd Ave and 125th. If you go thru the documentation about sas on the mta website, they state what yards and lay ups trains will use.

Who knows, we might see the 125 St yard.

[Roadcruiser1]

Any loop line in general would probably avoid Manhattan since all loop lines in other cities avoid running through the city center which is in this case Manhattan. So such a line would run from New Jersey and through the four other Boroughs but not Manhattan, but such a line is impossible since it is so long, and construction cost would be in the billions. Not to mention the long wait time for construction and the problem between the and the PA.

[Threxx]

Well I was just making a suggestion, but I do think at least the should serve Throgs Neck of the Bronx, it was proposed and still debated, Im not saying that the route serving Second Avenue solely wouldnt be good enough, I mean the and lines are already over crowded, and you dont have to get angry at me, it was just a thought.

I wasn't angry...

Throgs Neck residents don't want service, it isn't realistic to build that much new track. I proposed connecting the to Culver and sending it to Avenue X, which would provide a second connection to Brooklyn.

[Tokkemon]

New York City will never have a loop line *until* a unified subway system is built through New Jersey. Otherwise you're just looping around half of the city. Of course, because of all the ridiculous red tape, that won't happen.

[Q10 Airport]

Hold on, let me just...

OK, have my anger blocker on!

Novel idea, but a number of problems/uncertainties:

1. The Triboro RX to SI idea is similar. However, it has many roadblocks as it uses Amtrak rail.
2. A route going through all 5 boros would be too long and too unreliable as a local subway route.
3. Like you said, it's at the border of fantasy because of costs. Not to be a killjoy, but dream on.
4. The current is fine as is. How would this route work using Second Avenue anyway?

The Triboro RX is more likely to happen than a loop of a line. At least most of the tracks are already in place with the Triboro RX. You can't say the same for the the loop of a .

However, I am not convinced that the current is fine as is. It has no express tracks and no services in outer boroughs.

[CenSin]

I wasn't angry...

Throgs Neck residents don't want service, it isn't realistic to build that much new track. I proposed connecting the to Culver and sending it to Avenue X, which would provide a second connection to Brooklyn.

It's hard to say that an entire neighborhood doesn't want service when it's usually the vocal minority. The rich Upper East Siders with their private transportation clearly aren't too happy about getting subway service, yet the many people who live and work there will use it once built.

[Quill Depot]

The should run with the instead. The could use some R-211's too.

Edit: Grammar

Edited by jimmy7train, 23 July 2012 - 02:22 PM.