VWM Posted July 8, 2012 Share #1 Posted July 8, 2012 I'm going to split the proposals into 2 parts, because it would be a mess all on one map. So here's the first map, n45-n91. Link Below. Pretty Cool Map Link, Brah No I am not sending the n50 to long beach or the n4 to the transit museum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted July 8, 2012 Share #2 Posted July 8, 2012 N4 to the museum? In Brooklyn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted July 8, 2012 Share #3 Posted July 8, 2012 I wouldn't eliminate the n80 because alternating between the n81 and the n80 makes sense, and extending the n58 to mineola isn't needed. Great Neck has many connections for people who take the n58 and from the n58 to the n20 gives even more available transfers. I also don't think the n78 has to be extended to WWM given it doesn't get [much or any] ridership east of Manetto Hill Rd and that area of Melville is mostly private residences. The n73/74 can be fixed just like the n80/81 with a n80 and an n73 one hour, then an n81 and an n74 the next hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted July 8, 2012 Share #4 Posted July 8, 2012 and the n46 should go to RF non stop AND n47 NON STOP to NCC as I orginally said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted July 8, 2012 Share #5 Posted July 8, 2012 https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?authuser=0&vps=2&hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=19&msid=204750700533050976010.0004c456541b57a7874cf My Version. I will keep making updates until 5:30 PM EST, so pleas continue to check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share #6 Posted July 8, 2012 I wouldn't eliminate the n80 because alternating between the n81 and the n80 makes sense For some reason, I didn't think that would work either... fixed. and extending the n58 to mineola isn't needed. Great Neck has many connections for people who take the n58 and from the n58 to the n20 gives even more available transfers. Meh... I also don't think the n78 has to be extended to WWM given it doesn't get [much or any] ridership east of Manetto Hill Rd and that area of Melville is mostly private residences. What I thought. My original plan was to send it to SUNY, which is now shown. The n73/74 can be fixed just like the n80/81 with a n80 and an n73 one hour, then an n81 and an n74 the next hour. Problem solved by turning every other n78 at Hicksville. @ Q23 geez, that's a long n2 and n8... and why does the n6 no longer use HTC? Artics in front of LIRR station stop like I suggested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted July 8, 2012 Share #7 Posted July 8, 2012 I wouldn't eliminate the n80 because alternating between the n81 and the n80 makes sense, and extending the n58 to mineola isn't needed. Great Neck has many connections for people who take the n58 and from the n58 to the n20 gives even more available transfers. I also don't think the n78 has to be extended to WWM given it doesn't get [much or any] ridership east of Manetto Hill Rd and that area of Melville is mostly private residences. The n73/74 can be fixed just like the n80/81 with a n80 and an n73 one hour, then an n81 and an n74 the next hour. Ever since the N78 was cut to rush hours only, peak direction (EB AM/WB PM) trips carry reasonable loads east of Manetto Hill. Reverse peak trips regularly leave Hicksville with < 6 passengers. I don't like the extension to SUNY Farmingdale unless its rush hours only, its too much low-ridership mileage through Melville to serve what may not be a giant traffic generator. Good idea with the n77. It should use Glen Cove Rd instead of Post Ave, though. N50 to Crossways via Woodbury Rd: even though I would love to see this happen, it would probably garner little or no ridership at Crossways. It would be better to deviate the N77 via Crossways during rush hours and extend the N81 if necessary. Neither the 80 or 81 should go into Broadway Mall, ridership there is virtually nonexistant. And reroute the N73 off the local streets already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted July 8, 2012 Share #8 Posted July 8, 2012 For some reason, I didn't think that would work either... fixed. Meh... What I thought. My original plan was to send it to SUNY, which is now shown. Problem solved by turning every other n78 at Hicksville. @ Q23 geez, that's a long n2 and n8... and why does the n6 no longer use HTC? Artics in front of LIRR station stop like I suggested? The n2 and n8 would operate on Little Neck Parkway in order to restore some ridership on the Q79. These buses would operate on 1 hour headways on it's combined route. The n6 I did for some reason, Because I couldnt put the stupid point inside HTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share #9 Posted July 8, 2012 The beginning of n1-n43 MAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted July 8, 2012 Share #10 Posted July 8, 2012 N73 on local streets can work if adjusted to meet more PEAK LIRR trains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted July 8, 2012 Share #11 Posted July 8, 2012 The n2 and n8 would operate on Little Neck Parkway in order to restore some ridership on the Q79. These buses would operate on 1 hour headways on it's combined route. The n6 I did for some reason, Because I couldnt put the stupid point inside HTC. already beat you to it I proposed the same idea last year and before NICE I pitched N2 extension to the MTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted July 9, 2012 Share #12 Posted July 9, 2012 Ever since the N78 was cut to rush hours only, peak direction (EB AM/WB PM) trips carry reasonable loads east of Manetto Hill. Reverse peak trips regularly leave Hicksville with < 6 passengers. Interesting cause when I was out there (two weeks ago I think), I saw two close to empty N78s. The beginning of n1-n43 MAP I suggested putting getting the artics to stop inside Hempstead Transit Center on those side kinda-parking spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted July 9, 2012 Share #13 Posted July 9, 2012 The beginning of n1-n43 MAP N17: I know I proposed an extension to the Mineola LIRR Station in the previous forum, but the N17 to Mineola wouldn't work with it's current head ways. You need to add a couple of trips in order for this to work. N18: There's no demand for bus service along Long Beach Road. People who live on that street usually walk to the N35 at Baldwin Road, or the N16 at Franklin Street for service to the Hempstead Terminal. As for Rockville Centre, it doesn't need another bus route. The N15 and N16 both serve that area and have modest amount of ridership. I wish I can say the same thing for the N17, but it's just a glorified shuttle for Mercy Medical Center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTS CNG Command Posted July 9, 2012 Share #14 Posted July 9, 2012 Currently replying to only your n58 extension. I concur with Brett. I don't think it's needed because of the major connections. On the other hand, while I don't like it going from Mineola to Kings Point, I do like the section from Great Neck to Mineola as a route of itself (I'll call it the n59 for this case). There isn't a one-bus connection between the two, and I feel it would be good to have. My worry, though, is will it attract riders, especially those who live in south Lakeville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share #15 Posted July 9, 2012 My point was it's hard to get to the north shore between Hempstead, Jamiaca, and Hicksville (the n23,n25,n26,n27 are it) but some of those routes are only part time as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share #16 Posted July 9, 2012 n1-n32 is OUT! (n32 is on the second page for some reason) https://maps.google....0.0744,0.154324 expect n33-n43 later this week oh, and for anyone wondering, N87 - N91 are on page 2 of the original, found here https://maps.google.....29733,0.617294 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted July 9, 2012 Share #17 Posted July 9, 2012 Can you explain your NICE routes on here? Some map lines confusing when they intersect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share #18 Posted July 9, 2012 yes, I can. n1: no change n2/n8: still runs in a loop, but is now diverted via Franklin Avenue. Service Terminates at Covert/Tulip Avenues n3: (will be on the n33-n43 map) created by me and Q23 Central Terminal. is a LTD on Hempstead Tpke. n4: no change except a limited variant is now in place Peak Hors Only. (More service is on reverse peak than normal peak direction) n5: new route Between HTC and Jamiaca Center, via Dutch Broadway and Linden Ave n6/n6X: no change except artic stops. n14,n15,n16: no change n17: extended to Mineola with 80 minute midday headways n19: re routed via Amityville n19A: new route via Sunrise Highway n20,n21,n22: no change (n21 now runs outside Peak Hours) n23: back to Pre-April setup, except it is extended to Hempstead from Mineola and re-routed via Roslyn Industrial Park n25/n26: no change n27: Back to Pre April 8th n28: New Route From Flushing to Hempstead via Northern Blvd and Glen Cove Road n31/32: no change If there are any confusions, please state them specifically. n33-n43 (plus n3) https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=210008112571192178106.0004c4668ea83b5b07152&msa=0&ll=40.662879,-73.551516&spn=0.03607,0.077162 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted July 9, 2012 Share #19 Posted July 9, 2012 yes, I can. n1: no change n2/n8: still runs in a loop, but is now diverted via Franklin Avenue. Service Terminates at Covert/Tulip Avenues n3: (will be on the n33-n43 map) created by me and Q23 Central Terminal. is a LTD on Hempstead Tpke. n4: no change except a limited variant is now in place Peak Hors Only. (More service is on reverse peak than normal peak direction) n5: new route Between HTC and Jamiaca Center, via Dutch Broadway and Linden Ave n6/n6X: no change except artic stops. n14,n15,n16: no change n17: extended to Mineola with 80 minute midday headways n19: re routed via Amityville n19A: new route via Sunrise Highway n20,n21,n22: no change (n21 now runs outside Peak Hours) n23: back to Pre-April setup, except it is extended to Hempstead from Mineola and re-routed via Roslyn Industrial Park n25/n26: no change n27: Back to Pre April 8th n28: New Route From Flushing to Hempstead via Northern Blvd and Glen Cove Road n31/32: no change If there are any confusions, please state them specifically. n33-n43 (plus n3) https://maps.google.....03607,0.077162 Why is the N33 extended to Broad Channel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share #20 Posted July 9, 2012 I was thinking it gave people access to the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted July 9, 2012 Share #21 Posted July 9, 2012 I was thinking it gave people access to the . If people want access to the western part of the Rockaways, they can just take the Q22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share #22 Posted July 9, 2012 Or the train.... idk why I did that I'll fix it soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted July 10, 2012 Author Share #23 Posted July 10, 2012 N33-N44 plus N3 is out https://maps.google....297344,0.617294 oh and here's what all the maps look like put together (minus n87-n91) oops, the top of the n21 and n27 got cut off but there were no changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted July 14, 2012 Share #24 Posted July 14, 2012 N33-N44 plus N3 is out https://maps.google....297344,0.617294 oh and here's what all the maps look like put together (minus n87-n91) oops, the top of the n21 and n27 got cut off but there were no changes How did you put that all together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted July 14, 2012 Share #25 Posted July 14, 2012 First of all, the n73 should be renamed n87'and go over the n87 turns. The n74 should go via all the section of the 73 until Gardner and go its regular route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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