Planned Subway Service Changes

[Kingsbridgeviewer382]

40 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

How is the  frequency going to stay the same if the  isn't running?

The  runs every 8-10 minutes if you take the  away from the equation during the rush hour schedules. Its pretty much a convenient way to reduce rush hour service for the summer.

[darkstar8983]

6 hours ago, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said:

The  runs every 8-10 minutes if you take the  away from the equation during the rush hour schedules. Its pretty much a convenient way to reduce rush hour service for the summer.

According to the post, rush hour frequencies will remain the same, with the  running every 5 minutes during the skip stop hour, like last time they did this GO in winter 2018-2019. Again this makes no sense why the  and skip stop service has to be suspended. Might have to do with the way trains turn around at 121 St. crew members have to turn their own trains around at 121 St, and crews changed at Broadway Junction, similar to how the  crews changed at Kings Highway when 86 St was the terminal.

[Wallyhorse]

On 6/3/2022 at 5:16 PM, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said:

https://new.mta.info/project/reconstructing-archer-av-jz?fbclid=IwAR0N8LZ6vnqIFvZpJ-G-msjud9-Z2WVMUMcOuRJ-B_Ar8qvLaRHCt_kRa18

More details were given on the MTA Site. While Skip-Stop service will still be suspended,  frequencies will remain the same. Also, shuttle bus frequencies were posted and will run under the J99 moniker. LIRR will be cross-honoring as well during the shutdown. 

I wonder if they will also use this to move the crossing into Jamaica Center much closer to the station.  That in itself would allow for more frequent service if need be. 

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

 trains are running to/from 207th Street on Independence Day

Extra Service

trains run between Euclid Av and 168 St and via the to/from 207 St

Jul 2, Saturday, 5:30 AM to 11:30 PM, Jul 3, Sunday, 6:45 AM to 11:30 PM and Jul 4, Monday, 5:30 AM to 11:30 PM (includes Independence Day)

What's happening?

Track maintenance

Posted: 06/02/2022 08:34AM

 

The following weekend after that, trains are running via Culver, and trains are running via West End. Southbound service will operate via 8th Avenue from 59th Street to West 4th Street. Southbound  trains will operate express in Manhattan to accommodate. 

Edited June 10, 2022 by BM5 via Woodhaven

[Vulturious]

21 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

 trains are running to/from 207th Street on Independence Day

Extra Service

trains run between Euclid Av and 168 St and via the to/from 207 St

Jul 2, Saturday, 5:30 AM to 11:30 PM, Jul 3, Sunday, 6:45 AM to 11:30 PM and Jul 4, Monday, 5:30 AM to 11:30 PM (includes Independence Day)

What's happening?

Track maintenance

Posted: 06/02/2022 08:34AM

 

The following weekend after that, trains are running via Culver, and trains are running via West End. Southbound service will operate via 8th Avenue from 59th Street to West 4th Street. Southbound  trains will operate express in Manhattan to accommodate. 

Quite a few things happening with the  lately. We got three weekends in a row where  trains are either cut back entirely or rerouted:

• The weekend before Independence Day,  trains are cut back to Bay 50 St yet again.
• Then the Independence Day weekend with  trains cut back to 161 St.
• Lastly, as you mentioned,  and  swap with soutbound  trains running via the  from 145 St to West 4 St with normal swapped service in Brooklyn for northbound.

[BreeddekalbL]

Also dont forget about no concourse express from 7/5 through the rest of the year 

[darkstar8983]

On 6/4/2022 at 8:18 PM, Wallyhorse said:

I wonder if they will also use this to move the crossing into Jamaica Center much closer to the station.  That in itself would allow for more frequent service if need be. 

 

On 6/4/2022 at 8:18 PM, Wallyhorse said:

I wonder if they will also use this to move the crossing into Jamaica Center much closer to the station.  That in itself would allow for more frequent service if need be. 

That work I think would be a lot more invasive - replacing walls, columns, support structure, work that could take almost a year to do (assuming the tunnel is structurally sound). If it were possible then there was a big missed opportunity to do this work on the  train level, where that configuration is desperately needed. This way, all  service can go to Parsons-Archer, and there would be spare capacity in case of  train reroutes

[Eric B]

On 6/10/2022 at 3:30 AM, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

 trains are running to/from 207th Street on Independence Day

Extra Service

trains run between Euclid Av and 168 St and via the to/from 207 St

Jul 2, Saturday, 5:30 AM to 11:30 PM, Jul 3, Sunday, 6:45 AM to 11:30 PM and Jul 4, Monday, 5:30 AM to 11:30 PM (includes Independence Day)

What's happening?

Track maintenance

Posted: 06/02/2022 08:34AM

 

The following weekend after that, trains are running via Culver, and trains are running via West End. Southbound service will operate via 8th Avenue from 59th Street to West 4th Street. Southbound  trains will operate express in Manhattan to accommodate. 

 

On 6/11/2022 at 12:37 AM, Vulturious said:

Quite a few things happening with the  lately. We got three weekends in a row where  trains are either cut back entirely or rerouted:

• The weekend before Independence Day,  trains are cut back to Bay 50 St yet again.
• Then the Independence Day weekend with  trains cut back to 161 St.
• Lastly, as you mentioned,  and  swap with soutbound  trains running via the  from 145 St to West 4 St with normal swapped service in Brooklyn for northbound.

So, the  can't use 145th (as it would usually do) because the  is terminating at 161? (I never knew how that move was done, but from what I'm seeing on a track diagram, it would have to terminate on the northbound platform, and then go down the express (skipping 155th) and 145 middle. 

[Danavigata]

On 6/12/2022 at 11:42 AM, Eric B said:

 

So, the  can't use 145th (as it would usually do) because the  is terminating at 161? (I never knew how that move was done, but from what I'm seeing on a track diagram, it would have to terminate on the northbound platform, and then go down the express (skipping 155th) and 145 middle. 

The last time they did this GO recently, they had the  go to 161 on it’s regular northbound track, then operate light to north of 167 middle track then come back down in service to 161 on the southbound platform and enter service there. It seems they don’t have use of that relay track this time around so the Northbound  will enter 145 on the middle track, skip 155 and terminate at 161 on the southbound track, then go southbound in service from there. 

[nightmare402]

Planned - Trains Rerouted

Euclid Av-bound trains run via the from 59 St-Columbus Circle to 34 St-Herald Sq and via the F to Jay St-MetroTech

Jul 29, Friday, 9:45 PM to 11:00 PM, Jul 30, Saturday, 5:45 AM to 11:00 PM and Jul 31, Sunday, 7:15 AM to 11:00 PM

No Euclid Av-bound service at 50 St, 42 St-Port Authority Bus Terminal, 34 St-Penn Station, 23 St, 14 St, Spring St, Canal St, Chambers St, Fulton St , and High St.

Travel Alternatives:

For 42 St-Port Authority Bus Terminal, 34 St-Penn Station, 14 St, Canal St, Chambers St, Fulton St , and High St, take the via transfer at 59 St-Columbus Circle Accessbility or Jay St-MetroTech Accessbility.

For service to 50 St, 23 St , and Spring St, use nearby 1 stations on 7th Av via transfer at 59 St-Columbus Circle Accessbility.

For service from 50 St, take the to W 4 St-Wash Sq Accessbility and transfer to a Euclid Av-bound .

For service from Spring St or 50 St, take the to W 4 St-Wash Sq or 59 St-Columbus Circle and transfer to a Euclid Av-bound .

What's happening?

Track maintenance

Accessbility This service change affects one or more ADA accessible stations and these travel alternatives may not be fully accessible. Please contact 511 to plan your trip.

 

the A is normal

Edited July 1, 2022 by nightmare402

[Wallyhorse]

8 hours ago, nightmare402 said:

Planned - Trains Rerouted

Euclid Av-bound trains run via the from 59 St-Columbus Circle to 34 St-Herald Sq and via the F to Jay St-MetroTech

Jul 29, Friday, 9:45 PM to 11:00 PM, Jul 30, Saturday, 5:45 AM to 11:00 PM and Jul 31, Sunday, 7:15 AM to 11:00 PM

No Euclid Av-bound service at 50 St, 42 St-Port Authority Bus Terminal, 34 St-Penn Station, 23 St, 14 St, Spring St, Canal St, Chambers St, Fulton St , and High St.

Travel Alternatives:

For 42 St-Port Authority Bus Terminal, 34 St-Penn Station, 14 St, Canal St, Chambers St, Fulton St , and High St, take the via transfer at 59 St-Columbus Circle Accessbility or Jay St-MetroTech Accessbility.

For service to 50 St, 23 St , and Spring St, use nearby 1 stations on 7th Av via transfer at 59 St-Columbus Circle Accessbility.

For service from 50 St, take the to W 4 St-Wash Sq Accessbility and transfer to a Euclid Av-bound .

For service from Spring St or 50 St, take the to W 4 St-Wash Sq or 59 St-Columbus Circle and transfer to a Euclid Av-bound .

What's happening?

Track maintenance

Accessbility This service change affects one or more ADA accessible stations and these travel alternatives may not be fully accessible. Please contact 511 to plan your trip.

 

the A is normal

What about taking the  in this case to 7th Avenue and transferring there for the  if you specifically need 50th Street-8th Avenue?

[nightmare402]

this weekend 

No trains between 3 Av-149 St and 135 St

Jul 8 - 11, Fri 11:30 PM to Mon 5:00 AM

service runs in two sections:

1. Between Wakefield-241 St and 3 Av-149 St

2. Between Flatbush Av-Brooklyn College and 135 St and via the to/from Harlem-148 St, skipping 145 St in both directions

~ Trains run every 12 minutes days and evenings

Shuttle BusFree shuttle buses run along three routes:

1. Between 149 St-Grand Concourse and 135 St, stopping at 145 St station.

2. Nonstop between 3 Av-149 St and 149 St-Grand Concourse

3. Nonstop between 3 Av-149 St and 135 St

Transfer at 135 St Accessbility | 2Shuttle Bus, 149 St-Grand Concourse 45Shuttle Busor 3 Av-149 St Accessbility | Shuttle Bus.

Metro-North Railroad is also accommodating customers at nearby Wakefield, Woodlawn, Williams Bridge, Harlem-125 St Accessbility and Grand Central Accessbility stations, show your OMNY/MetroCard on board.

Note: All trains at 3 Av-149 St board from the Manhattan-bound platform.

 

service is suspended

Jul 8 - 11, Fri 11:30 PM to Mon 5:00 AM

trains make stops between Franklin Av-Medgar Evers College and 135 St and run via the to/from Harlem-148 St, skipping 145 St in both directions.

trains make stops between Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr and New Lots Av.

For 145 St, take the M7 or M102 buses days/evenings and Shuttle Busfree shuttle buses overnights.

Transfer between trains and buses at 135 St Accessbility.

Transfer between and trains at Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr Accessbility or Franklin Av-Medgar Evers College.

What's happening?

We're making accessibility improvements

 and  Swap

Coney Island-bound trains run via the from 145 St to W 4 St-Wash Sq, then via the to Coney Island-Stillwell Av.

Manhattan-bound trains run via the from Coney Island-Stillwell Av to 34 St-Herald Sq, then resumes regular service.

trains make local stops between W 4 St-Wash Sq and Coney Island-Stillwell Av.

Coney  trains Exp Atlantic to 36 St (Brooklyn) 

 

Coney Island-bound trains skip Union St, 4 Av-9 St, Prospect Av, and 25 St stations

Jul 8 - 11, Fri 10:45 PM to Mon 5:00 AM

For service to these stations, take the F to 36 St and transfer to a local Manhattan-bound (F)* or (R).

For service from these stations, take the F N or R to Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr and transfer to a Coney Island-bound (F).

* trains replace the in Brooklyn during this time.

What's happening?

Preventive maintenance

 

Manhattan-bound and Court Sq-bound trains skip Fort Hamilton Pkwy, 15 St-Prospect Park and 4 Av-9 St

Jul 8 - 11, Fri 9:45 PM to Mon 5:00 AM

For service to these stations, take the or to 7 Av or Smith-9 Sts and transfer to a Coney Island-bound or Church Av-bound (G).

For service from these stations, take the or to 7 Av or Church Av and transfer to a Manhattan-bound or Court Sq-bound (G).

Note: trains replace the in Brooklyn during this time.

[Wallyhorse]

Can't they program these trains to ONLY open the cars that can be opened at 145 or do they REALLY think C/Rs are THAT incompetent they will open the wrong cars at 145 and people really are not paying attention?  I would be requiring ALL C/Rs to know to only open certain doors at 145 so people there are not screwed. 

[Kamen Rider]

As someone who has now gotten her foot in the door…

 

1: no, you can’t program the the train to do that because that is now how the train works.

 

2: they don’t think we’re incompetent. They know we ca be making hundreds of stops a day. We get into rhythms and muscle memory is that. ONE station on ONE line is different. 

 

(When the T/O accidentally over runs your board, one of the solutions RCC will give you is to open the train normally in the rear and key open the crew doors abreast the platform.they rarely ever give that order because we know we are trained to press both open button at the same time.)

 

which makes more sense for ONE stop? Your way or ours?

[Prospect]

12 hours ago, Wallyhorse said:

Can't they program these trains to ONLY open the cars that can be opened at 145 or do they REALLY think C/Rs are THAT incompetent they will open the wrong cars at 145 and people really are not paying attention?  I would be requiring ALL C/Rs to know to only open certain doors at 145 so people there are not screwed. 

Mistakes happen, sometimes even when you're paying attention. I'm sure those conductors that work the 2 line know how 145th/Lennox is set up when they have to work those G.O.'s, it's just being prepared and responding at the correct moment that can trip some people up. Shifts can be long, it's not always easy to keep it 100 on 4 hours of sleep working 12+ hours that day, even though they expect that.

[Maxwell179]

A lot of reroutes this weekend :

 

Jul 15 - 18, Fri 9:45 PM to Mon 5:00 AM 

No World Trade Center-bound service at 7 Av, 50 St, 42 St-Port Authority Bus Terminal, 34 St-Penn Station, 23 St and 14 St 

World Trade Center-bound trains run via the from 47-50 Sts-Rockefeller Ctr to W 4 St-Wash Sq, then resumes normal service.  

 

Jul 15 - 18, Fri 11:45 PM to Mon 5:00 AM

No uptown service at  34 St-Herald Sq, 42 St-Bryant Pk, 47-50 Sts-Rockefeller Ctr and 7 Av

Uptown trains run local via the from W 4 St-Wash Sq to 59 St-Columbus Circle. 

Jul 15 - 16, Fri 9:45 PM to Sat 10:00 PM

No Coney Island-bound service at 21 St-Queensbridge, Roosevelt Island, Lexington Av/63 St and 57 St.

Coney Island-bound trains run via the from Jackson Hts-Roosevelt Av to 5 Av/53 St.  

Trains resume regular service at 47-50 Sts-Rockefeller Ctr.

Jul 16 - 18, Sat 11:45 PM to Mon 5:00 AM

No Jamaica-bound   service at 57 St, Lexington Av/63 St, Roosevelt Island, and 21 St-Queensbridge.

Jamaica-bound  trains are rerouted via the  after 47-50 Sts-Rockefeller Ctr to Jackson Hts-Roosevelt Av.  

Sat 12:01 AM to Mon 5:00 AM until Aug 15

Astoria-bound  trains run via the from Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr to Canal St

Trains stop at DeKalb Av, Jay St-MetroTech, Court St, Whitehall St-South Ferry, Rector St, Cortlandt St and City Hall.

Fri 11:45 PM to Mon 5:00 AM until Aug 15

No trains between Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr and Prospect Park
Service is rerouted in Brooklyn

trains run in two sections: 

1. Between 96 St and rerouted to/from Coney Island-Stillwell Av, skipping DeKalb Av southbound

2. Between Prospect Park and Coney Island-Stillwell Av

Coney Island-bound   trains run via the express from Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr to Coney Island-Stillwell Av, stopping at 36 St and 59 St.

96 St-bound  trains run via the express from Coney Island-Stillwell Av to Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr, stopping at Bay Pkwy, 62 St, 9 Av, and 36 St.  

Sat 12:01 AM to Mon 5:00 AM until Aug 15

96 St-bound  trains run via the from   DeKalb Av to Canal St

Trains stop at Jay St-MetroTech, Court St, Whitehall St-South Ferry, Rector St, Cortlandt St and City Hall.

Edited July 12, 2022 by Maxwell179

[nightmare402]

 

Downtown trains run express from 125 St to Canal St

Jul 29 - Aug 1, Fri 10:15 PM to Mon 5:00 AM

For service to 116 St, Cathedral Pkwy (110 St), 103 St, 96 St, 86 St, 81 St-Museum of Natural History and 72 St, take the to 59 St-Columbus Circle and transfer to an uptown A local.

For service from these stations, take the to 125 St and transfer to a downtown (A).

For service to 50 St and 23 St, take the A to 42 St-Port Authority Bus Terminal or 14 St and transfer to an uptown local or .

For service from 50 St, take the to 59 St-Columbus Circle and transfer to a downtown .

F‌or service from 23 St, take the or (E) to 34 St-Penn Station and transfer to a downtown .

For Spring St, take the E via transfer at W 4 St-Wash Sq or Canal St.

What's happening?

Structural and track maintenance

Accessbility This service change affects one or more ADA accessible stations and these travel alternatives may not be fully accessible. Please contact 511 to plan your trip.

Posted: 07/25/2022 02:04PM

 

Planned - Trains Rerouted

Euclid Av-bound trains run via the from 59 St-Columbus Circle to 34 St-Herald Sq and via the to Jay St-MetroTech

Jul 29, Friday, 9:45 PM to 11:00 PM, Jul 30, Saturday, 5:45 AM to 11:00 PM and Jul 31, Sunday, 7:15 AM to 11:00 PM

No Euclid Av-bound service at 50 St, 42 St-Port Authority Bus Terminal, 34 St-Penn Station, 23 St, 14 St, Spring St, Canal St, Chambers St, Fulton St , and High St.

Travel Alternatives:

For 42 St-Port Authority Bus Terminal, 34 St-Penn Station, 14 St, Canal St, Chambers St, Fulton St , and High St, take the via transfer at 59 St-Columbus Circle Accessbility or Jay St-MetroTech Accessbility.

For service to 50 St, 23 St , and Spring St, use nearby 1 stations on 7th Av via transfer at 59 St-Columbus Circle Accessbility.

For service from 50 St, take the to W 4 St-Wash Sq Accessbility and transfer to a Euclid Av-bound (C).

For service from Spring St or 23 St, take the to W 4 St-Wash Sq or 59 St-Columbus Circle and transfer to a Euclid Av-bound .

What's happening?

Track maintenance

Edited July 26, 2022 by nightmare402

[Lawrence St]

Can someone recall the last time the  had an outage between any point on the Jerome Elevated?

[darkstar8983]

35 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

Can someone recall the last time the  had an outage between any point on the Jerome Elevated?

Planned outages? It’s been a while. Last time, the  ran in its place from Utica / New Lots Av to Eastchester-Dyre Av. I checked on YouTube and It was in March-April 2017

Edited July 31, 2022 by darkstar8983

[Maxwell179]

Uptown skips 182-183 Sts 

Mon to Fri, 9:00 AM to 9:30 AM, until Dec 2

 

Why for only 30 minutes every weekday morning ?

[VIP]

On 8/2/2022 at 10:07 PM, Maxwell179 said:

Uptown skips 182-183 Sts 

Mon to Fri, 9:00 AM to 9:30 AM, until Dec 2

 

Why for only 30 minutes every weekday morning ?

 train layups. Ease of congestion.

[darkstar8983]

6 hours ago, VIP said:

 train layups. Ease of congestion.

I thought the Concourse Express track was out of service, or is it out of service only in a specific section. I mean, when they’re doing the GOs that cut service north of 161 St-Yankee Stadium, the express track is used to reverse  trains to Manhattan, or vice versa.

[darkstar8983]

6 hours ago, VIP said:

 train layups. Ease of congestion.

Wouldn’t it make sense for the  trains to skip 182-183 Sts, (the Kingsbridge Road trips), so that way, the  trains that terminate at Bedford Park Blvd can continue using the local track going around the terminating  trains. It’s a lot of trains going into the yard after the AM rush all at the same time. 20 TPH going uptown on the combined  and only 6 TPH of  trains going back downtown at that time, so the extra trains all dead-headed to Concourse Yard until the PM rush

[Daniel The Cool]

1 hour ago, darkstar8983 said:

Wouldn’t it make sense for the  trains to skip 182-183 Sts, (the Kingsbridge Road trips), so that way, the  trains that terminate at Bedford Park Blvd can continue using the local track going around the terminating  trains. It’s a lot of trains going into the yard after the AM rush all at the same time. 20 TPH going uptown on the combined  and only 6 TPH of  trains going back downtown at that time, so the extra trains all dead-headed to Concourse Yard until the PM rush

Those Kingsbridge Trips has always skipped 182nd-183rd Street. They still do today.

[darkstar8983]

8 hours ago, Daniel The Cool said:

Those Kingsbridge Trips has always skipped 182nd-183rd Street. They still do today.

So now that makes even less sense. You now have the Kingsbridge Road  trips on the express track AND the thru  trains to 205 St? There’s a lot of time wasted during fumigation, and delays now because you’ll have all the trains on one long line (some going to the yard and some going the full route)