darkstar8983 Posted February 17 Share #3901 Posted February 17 42 minutes ago, Snowblock said: Huh? No, trains stay on tk 4 and then cross over north of 137 to the middle track, change ends and cross to tk 1 to go back south. 125 and 137 station are both closed due to e&e work but the trains are still doing long relays through there What does E&E work stand for? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted February 18 Share #3902 Posted February 18 2 hours ago, darkstar8983 said: What does E&E work stand for? Electrical work? On the platforms? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted February 18 Share #3903 Posted February 18 5 hours ago, darkstar8983 said: What does E&E work stand for? Escalator (125) & elevator (137) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmare402 Posted February 20 Share #3904 Posted February 20 (edited) In Brooklyn, no between Kings Hwy and Brighton Beach - Take the Feb 20 - 23, Tue to Fri, 6 AM to 9:30 PM runs every 12 minutes between Bedford Park Blvd/145 St and Kings Hwy, the last stop. Transfer between and trains at Kings Hwy What's happening? We're replacing tracks In Brooklyn, no between Brighton Beach and Coney Island-Stillwell Av Until Feb 26, Mon 5 AM runs between 96 St and Brighton Beach, the last stop. Shuttle Bus Free shuttle buses make stops between Brighton Beach and Coney Island. Transfer between trains and Shuttle Bus buses at Brighton Beach or Coney Island Accessbility | Take the or instead for direct service between Manhattan/Downtown Brooklyn and Coney Island. Transfer stations: 34 St-Herald Sq Accessbility | Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr Accessbility | Note: During this time, there is no B service between Kings Hwy and Brighton Beach and no service between Kings Hwy and Coney Island. What's happening? We're replacing tracks In Brooklyn, no between Kings Hwy and Coney Island-Stillwell Av Until Feb 26, Mon 5 AM trains run between Jamaica-179 St and Kings Hwy, the last stop. Free shuttle buses run between Kings Hwy and Coney Island-Stillwell Av. Transfer between trains and Shuttle Busbuses at Kings Hwy For direct service between Coney Island-Stillwell Av and Manhattan/Downtown Brooklyn, take the or instead. Transfer stations: 34 St-Herald Sq Accessbility | Broadway-Lafayette St Accessbility | Note: No service between Brighton Beach and Coney Island-Stillwell Av during this time. What's happening? We're replacing tracks Edited February 20 by nightmare402 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmare402 Posted February 23 Share #3905 Posted February 23 (edited) 3 service is suspended Feb 23 - 26, Fri 11:45 PM to Mon 5:00 AM Shuttle Bus Free shuttle buses run between Harlem-148 St and 135 St. makes stops between 135 St and Franklin Av-Medgar Evers College. runs local in Brooklyn all weekend. Service to/from New Lots Av is replaced by free shuttle buses and trains. From Sat 3:30 AM to Sun 10 PM: Shuttle Buses replace service between Utica Av and New Lots Av. service operates to/from New Lots Av during the following times: Until Sat 3:30 AM and beginning again on Sun at 10 PM For 145 St and Harlem-148 St, take Shuttle Buses, the M7 or M102. Transfer between and buses at 135 St Transfer between and 4 at Nevins St, Atlantic Av or Franklin Av. Transfer between and Shuttle Bus buses at Utica Av What's happening? Track maintenance Edited February 23 by nightmare402 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted February 27 Share #3906 Posted February 27 Last weekend in March, no L service 8th Avenue to Lorimer. M to 57/6th on the weekends. If the tunnel was on time this could have been an M to 96/2nd weekend instead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted February 27 Share #3907 Posted February 27 12 hours ago, Kamen Rider said: Last weekend in March, no L service 8th Avenue to Lorimer. M to 57/6th on the weekends. If the tunnel was on time this could have been an M to 96/2nd weekend instead. At least they can do that. I'd been myself possibly been looking to extend the to 145 that weekend but then I suspect pols would demand the do that on weekends full-time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted February 27 Share #3908 Posted February 27 31 minutes ago, Wallyhorse said: At least they can do that. I'd been myself possibly been looking to extend the to 145 that weekend but then I suspect pols would demand the do that on weekends full-time. You “suspect” a lot of things… the purpose is to substitute for the L. What good would 145 do? to quote Scotty in Star Trek 3: ”the more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain.” any extension means full length trains which means OPTO has to be cancelled, which means having to find enough conductors to make service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted February 28 Share #3909 Posted February 28 3 hours ago, Kamen Rider said: You “suspect” a lot of things… “Suspicion” in my book is usually reserved for thoughts that have a high enough probability of being true that warrants further investigation and maybe action. This to 145 Street is unheard of outside of NYCTF… An interesting side note: there are also people who make proclamations which are so consistently wrong, people take what they say and automatically believe the opposite of it. Look up the Jim Cramer curse and the Inverse Cramer ETF for examples. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted February 28 Share #3910 Posted February 28 I think they did it once, and only once, because circumstances warranted it... BUT... That was a specific situation that isn't present here. Longer we make the line, the more personel we need. We're already going to need a conductor for every train operator who already works the M on the weekends during the day on weekends, but we're also going to need complete extra crews. We're going to need a dispatcher at 57/6... a LOT of people seem to think "a longer line just means longer trips" without considering all the extra factors. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted February 28 Share #3911 Posted February 28 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Kamen Rider said: I think they did it once, and only once, because circumstances warranted it... BUT... That was a specific situation that isn't present here. Longer we make the line, the more personel we need. We're already going to need a conductor for every train operator who already works the M on the weekends during the day on weekends, but we're also going to need complete extra crews. We're going to need a dispatcher at 57/6... a LOT of people seem to think "a longer line just means longer trips" without considering all the extra factors. Not to mention that these day-specific branches (by that, I mean one branch receives all of the service on certain days while the other branch gets everything on others) aren't exactly desirable for regular service from a passenger's standpoint. It's bad enough that we have branches like the Rockaway Park and the peak/reverse-peak branches, and those only see a relatively small number of weekday trains. Edited February 28 by Lex 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted February 28 Share #3912 Posted February 28 41 minutes ago, Kamen Rider said: I think they did it once, and only once, because circumstances warranted it... BUT... That was a specific situation that isn't present here. Longer we make the line, the more personel we need. We're already going to need a conductor for every train operator who already works the M on the weekends during the day on weekends, but we're also going to need complete extra crews. We're going to need a dispatcher at 57/6... a LOT of people seem to think "a longer line just means longer trips" without considering all the extra factors. I'm not sure how it works during weekend GOs, but couldn't the "extra" train crews that aren't used on the shortened weekend be transferred to the ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted February 28 Share #3913 Posted February 28 1 hour ago, darkstar8983 said: I'm not sure how it works during weekend GOs, but couldn't the "extra" train crews that aren't used on the shortened weekend be transferred to the ? that decision has multiple questions that need to be answered, such as: 1: How much of the line are you shutting down? 2: what kind of headway do you want to run on the section that is running? 3: what kind of turnback procedure are you using? two weeks ago I did the J shortline to Hewes street on a Sunday. They had the full crew roster on hand, even though the line was short 7 stations and the Williamsburg Bridge. If they try to keep the L to a close to normal headway (and remember, on the weekends, the L still runs a near 4-5 minute headway until well into the evening.), the line would probably still require as many of it's crews as possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted February 28 Share #3914 Posted February 28 (edited) 7 hours ago, Kamen Rider said: that decision has multiple questions that need to be answered, such as: 1: How much of the line are you shutting down? 2: what kind of headway do you want to run on the section that is running? 3: what kind of turnback procedure are you using? two weeks ago I did the J shortline to Hewes street on a Sunday. They had the full crew roster on hand, even though the line was short 7 stations and the Williamsburg Bridge. If they try to keep the L to a close to normal headway (and remember, on the weekends, the L still runs a near 4-5 minute headway until well into the evening.), the line would probably still require as many of it's crews as possible. The for example in the March GO will only run every 8 minutes east of Lorimer St. The relay I’m assuming is having 3 of the 8 cars platformed at Bedford Av then turning back to Canarsie. So service frequency would be reduced by about 40%. Also need to account that the weekend to 57 St will likely run every 12 minutes because of this unspoken rule of no more than 15 TPH on any trunk line on weekends. Edited February 28 by darkstar8983 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted February 29 Share #3915 Posted February 29 (edited) Necessary track repairs due to an earlier incident is requiring a last minute service change on the and for tonight: Planned - Reroute runs via the (R) in both directions between Queens Plaza and 34 St-Herald Sq, the last stop Feb 29 - Mar 1, Thu 11:45 PM to Fri 5:00 AM No service at Court Sq-23 St, Lexington Av/53 St, 5 Av/53 St, 7 Av, 50 St, 34 St, 23 St, 14 St, W 4 St, Spring St, Canal St and World Trade Center. Note: skips the 49 St station in both directions. Travel Alternatives: For Court Sq-23 St, take the or Jamaica-bound . For Lexington Av/53 St and 5 Av/53 St, take a Jamaica-bound or use the nearby 51 St station. For 7 Av, take the , use the nearby 57 St-7 Av station or the local at 50 St. For 50 St, 34 St-Penn Station, 23 St and 14 St, take the or use nearby stations. For W 4 St-Wash Sq, take the or Jamaica-bound . For Spring St, Canal St and World Trade Center (Chambers St), take a downtown . Note: For 42 St/Port Authority, trains stop at the Times Sq-42 St platform. Key transfer stations: Roosevelt Av-74 St Accessbility | Queens Plaza Accessbility | Lexington Av/59 St 42 St Connection - Port Authority/Times Sq/Bryant Park (A) (E) and Jamaica-bound 34 St-Herald Sq Accessbility | and Jamaica-bound W 4 St-Wash Sq Accessbility | and Jamaica-bound Note: No Coney Island-bound service in Manhattan during this time. What's happening? Urgent track repairs Accessbility This service change affects one or more ADA accessible stations and these travel alternatives may not be fully accessible. Please contact 511 to plan your trip. Posted: 02/29/2024 05:38 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Planned - Reroute No Coney Island-bound service in Manhattan Feb 29 - Mar 1, Thu 11:45 PM to Fri 5:00 AM Coney Island-bound runs via the to Queens Plaza and via the (G) from Court Sq, Queens to Bergen St, Brooklyn, resuming service to Coney Island. Jamaica-bound (F) continues to run from Brooklyn to 47-50 Sts, then via the (E) from 5 Av/53 St to Roosevelt Av, resuming service to Jamaica. (E) runs via the (R) in both directions between Queens Plaza and 34 St-Herald Sq, the last stop. (Skipping 49 St in both directions) Downtown (D) makes local stops at 14 St and 23 St. Shuttle Bus Free Q94 shuttle buses run between Roosevelt Island and Queens Plaza, stopping at, 21 St-Queensbridge and Queensboro Plaza (N) . Travel alternatives: For service from Queens to Manhattan, take the or (N) . For service from Manhattan to Brooklyn, take the (Q) . Station alternatives: For 21 St-Queensbridge and Roosevelt Island, take the Q94 shuttle bus. For Lexington Av/63 St, take the (Q) . For 57 St, use the nearby 57 St-7 Av (Q) (R) station. For 47-50 Sts, 42 St-Bryant Pk, 34 St-Herald Sq, W 4 St, and B'way-Lafayette St, take a or uptown (F) . For 23 St, take a downtown or uptown . For 14 St, take a downtown (D) , uptown (F) or (L) (6 Av). For 2 Av and East Broadway, take a Jamaica-bound (F) or use nearby Grand St or B'way-Lafayette St (D) stations. For Delancey St-Essex St, take the , Jamaica-bound or use nearby Grand St (D) . For Jay St-MetroTech, take the or (N) . Queens key transfer stations: Roosevelt Av/74 St Accessbility | (F) Queens Plaza Accessbility | (E) (F) and Q94 Queensboro Plaza (7) (N) and Q94 Manhattan key transfer stations: 42 St Connection - Port Authority/Times Sq/Bryant Park (A) (E) (N) (Q) and Jamaica-bound (F) 34 St-Herald Sq Accessbility | (N) (Q) and Jamaica-bound (F) 14 St-Union Sq Accessbility | (L) (N) (Q) W 4 St-Wash Sq Accessbility | (A) (D) and Jamaica-bound (F) Fulton St Accessbility |(J) and Brooklyn-bound (A) Brooklyn key transfer stations: Metropolitan Av/Lorimer St (L) and Coney Island-bound (F) Hoyt-Schermerhorn Sts (A) and Coney Island-bound (F) 4 Av-9 St (F) (N) What's happening? Urgent track repairs Accessbility This service change affects one or more ADA accessible stations and these travel alternatives may not be fully accessible. Please contact 511 to plan your trip. Posted: 02/29/2024 05:38 PM Edited February 29 by BM5 via Woodhaven 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted March 1 Share #3916 Posted March 1 it's kinda already started: Es are running to whitehall Street, suspending the W. Fs are southbound on the Crosstown line. With the J and M GO tonight, life is going to get interesting on the LES tonight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridgeviewer382 Posted March 1 Share #3917 Posted March 1 (edited) So a new date has been given for the temporary closure of the Downtown 50th St Train platform. It will start March 25th and run until Mid-April. This service change was originally going to run simultaneously with the 79th St downtown platform closure. Also, starting March 4th and running until Late March, Uptown Trains will skip 50th & 79th Streets. Edited March 1 by Kingsbridgeviewer382 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted March 1 Share #3918 Posted March 1 24 minutes ago, Kamen Rider said: it's kinda already started: Es are running to whitehall Street, suspending the W. Fs are southbound on the Crosstown line. With the J and M GO tonight, life is going to get interesting on the LES tonight. Right now, the has to serve as an alternative to the other Brooklyn IRT routes to varying degrees, which could put more pressure on some parts of the B Division, so I'd have to agree with that sentiment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris89292 Posted March 19 Share #3919 Posted March 19 In Queens will skip Northern Blvd in both directions for accessibility improvements starting April 8th through early May 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris89292 Posted March 22 Share #3920 Posted March 22 So the will run in two sections: are not running between 74th Street Broadway and Times Square 42nd Street April 6-8 Because of accessibility improvements will run in two sections Flushing-Main St- 74th Street Broadway Times Square 42nd Street This service is pretty rare, hopefully they’d still use this in the future 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridgeviewer382 Posted March 23 Share #3921 Posted March 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, Chris89292 said: So the will run in two sections: are not running between 74th Street Broadway and Times Square 42nd Street April 6-8 Because of accessibility improvements will run in two sections Flushing-Main St- 74th Street Broadway Times Square 42nd Street This service is pretty rare, hopefully they’d still use this in the future It's literally the same as the recent weekend G.O. but with the added shuttle between Times Square & Hudson Yards to accomodate riders heading to the New York Auto Show that weekend. Edited March 23 by Kingsbridgeviewer382 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted March 24 Share #3922 Posted March 24 About a month from now will be another L shutdown between Lorimer and 8th, meaning another weekend M through midtown, this time back to 96th/2nd 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris89292 Posted March 24 Share #3923 Posted March 24 On 3/22/2024 at 9:41 PM, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said: It's literally the same as the recent weekend G.O. but with the added shuttle between Times Square & Hudson Yards to accomodate riders heading to the New York Auto Show that weekend. The 2 section service isn’t seen during this type of GO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted March 26 Share #3924 Posted March 26 On 3/24/2024 at 1:14 PM, Chris89292 said: The 2 section service isn’t seen during this type of GO They used to do it at the start of Hudson Yards opening, but that just isolates a train for the shuttle service from the yard for the whole weekend. Likely the only reason they’re running the shuttle is because of the auto show. That’s why now they just suspend the west of Queensboro Plaza completely 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacster Posted March 26 Share #3925 Posted March 26 Maybe they are doing it for the auto show this time, but Hudson Yards is completely built up now, on the assumption that there would be subway service there. To treat that station as just a tourist spot is selling them short. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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