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[DJ MC]

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Amtrak and the California High Speed Rail Authority are joining forces this coming week to begin the process of ordering up to 62 sets of high-speed trains for use in both the NEC and in the Golden State. Thirty-two of the train sets would be earmarked for the NEC, for use at speeds up to 160 mph, and the others for California. As of now, the plan is to announce on January 17.
 
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[NYCRailfan523]

I just hope when the trains are there, I want to see how they look like. 

[qjtransitmaster]

It appears amtrak will see how much their trains will get slammed watch soon there will be other corridors with frequent service about damn time.

[Aussieinuk]

The problem is with the Acela is that it will never be a true "high speed train" until it has it's own dedicated line. There are very few places where it can run at it's full speed. The average speed between New York and Boston, a distance of 225 miles is 63mph including stops. The train only reaches speeds of 150mph for two stretches totaling 28 miles between Boston and New York.

[Engr08]

The problem is with the Acela is that it will never be a true "high speed train" until it has it's own dedicated line. There are very few places where it can run at it's full speed. The average speed between New York and Boston, a distance of 225 miles is 63mph including stops. The train only reaches speeds of 150mph for two stretches totaling 28 miles between Boston and New York.

 

The problem is with the Acela is that it will never be a true "high speed train" until it has it's own dedicated line. There are very few places where it can run at it's full speed. The average speed between New York and Boston, a distance of 225 miles is 63mph including stops. The train only reaches speeds of 150mph for two stretches totaling 28 miles between Boston and New York.

Its a start.

[DJ MC]

The problem is with the Acela is that it will never be a true "high speed train" until it has it's own dedicated line. There are very few places where it can run at it's full speed. The average speed between New York and Boston, a distance of 225 miles is 63mph including stops. The train only reaches speeds of 150mph for two stretches totaling 28 miles between Boston and New York.

 

At least we are getting somewhere. If Amtrak is able to successfully piggyback this order this it will be very interesting to see how far they will go with it. 32 HSR sets could be ordered. Also if California specs the HSR sets at 220mph this could save Amtrak from having to order new equipment years down the road should the plans for the NEC start to take place. The plans for the NEC as everyone should remember does call for 220mph operation.

Edited by DJ MC, 15 January 2013 - 01:18 PM.

[Aussieinuk]

My point is. Will the new trains run on existing tracks? If so then they will not be able to be used to their maximum potential.
A separate high speed track must be built and trains must have in cab signalling.

[DJ MC]

My point is. Will the new trains run on existing tracks? If so then they will not be able to be used to their maximum potential.
A separate high speed track must be built and trains must have in cab signalling.

 

To answer your questions.

 

A. Yes they will run on existing trackage.

 

B. Currently not feasible at this time in terms of funding. Down the road maybe. Trains do have cab signalling around the NEC though. 

[qjtransitmaster]

To answer your questions.
 
A. Yes they will run on existing trackage.
 
B. Currently not feasible at this time in terms of funding. Down the road maybe. Trains do have cab signalling around the NEC though. 

when will cab signaling come to other corridors?

[kentsfield]

My point is. Will the new trains run on existing tracks? If so then they will not be able to be used to their maximum potential.
A separate high speed track must be built and trains must have in cab signalling.

 

Stick to the buses Brit you've been making a lot of misattributions. The cab signaling installed on the NEC in the 30s was a point of pride for the PRR back then. The HSR trains of Germany's DB do not run on separate track and manage 200 mph speeds, frequency and a reliable reputation. It's well known the real problem with American HSR stems from the FRA and their poor specification requirements for american HSR. They arbitrarily decided on 150 mph. They artificially handicapped the acela.

Edited by kentsfield, 16 January 2013 - 09:25 PM.