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    Transit Workers Union tells motormen to slow down trains


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    #1 Harry

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    Posted 14 January 2013 - 03:38 PM

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    The transit workers union is telling motormen to slow down their trains to about 10 miles per hour to avoid hitting someone who might be on the tracks. Transport Workers Union Local 100 President John Samuelsen said the reduced speed - trains typically enter a station at 30 mph to 35 mph - will give operators more time to stop in an emergency. The union' s motives are to save riders' lives - and save motormen from the emotional trauma of running someone over, said Samuelsen.

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    #2 Quill Depot

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    Posted 14 January 2013 - 03:48 PM

    Why the big deal now?


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    #3 theaveragejoe

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    Posted 14 January 2013 - 04:07 PM

    Still will not work,if someone wants to jump they will just wait until the train is right there and jump when its right on them, all this will do is hold up the line.
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    Posted 14 January 2013 - 04:15 PM

    I think it's a good idea... People may still jump but maybe you save a few lives like Samuelsen said.


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    Posted 14 January 2013 - 04:22 PM

    Instead of 15 mph why not a compromise of say 20 mph when entering the station? Also what does upper management at the (MTA) think? 

     I doubt even if a T/O did ran a train at 15 mph, it would prevent someone from getting seriously hurt or even killed who for w/e the reason jumped the tracks. Plus it's very rare and we as the public still value getting from point a-b as quick and safe as possible.


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    #6 Urbanfortitude

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    Posted 14 January 2013 - 04:23 PM

    its all for show.  if they REALLY wanted to do this, they'd have pulled a broadway junction and started installing more timers @ stations.  Brilliant idea though.  While we're at it lets have buses go 5 miles an hour so they dont run the risk of running over pedestrians and small children...


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    #7 JubaionBx12+SBS

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    Posted 14 January 2013 - 04:48 PM

    I think this idea makes no sense and has the potential to slow down service on plenty of lines. Lines with plenty of stops within short distances (ex. Manhattan locals) need to be able to run with as much speed as possible in between stations to be effective. Being that stations on local lines happen to be real close to one another this slowdown will also occur in the tunnels in between stations which no one wants. How is let's say a motorman on the southbound (6) coming out of 33rd supposed to pick up speed in the tunnel if another slowdown to 15 mph would occur at 28th which is only 5 blocks afterwards?


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    #8 Lance

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    Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:19 PM

    While I understand the gravity of the situation here and I feel for the employees who have to go through this ordeal, I cannot side with the TWU on this. Yes, I get where the union is coming from. They're trying to protect their members from being blamed when the crews' trains are the cause of subway deaths. I don't need to tell you guys how the T/O and C/R are subject to drug tests immediately after the incident as though said incidents were intentional on the part of the crew. With that said, we can't have the subway system crawl to a halt because of the relatively few incidents that have occurred this past year. Yes, the number of 12-9s has increased over the past few years, but I don't think it's fair to the vast majority of riders that know not to stand so damn close to the platform edge, especially when under the influence. (Remember, only a few of the incidents were the result of being pushed onto the tracks.) We shouldn't be effectively cutting service so idiots can get another chance to be idiots. Not at the expense of normal folks who know how to wait for trains.


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    #9 SoSpectacular

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    Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:11 PM

    A big chunk of steel moving at 10 MPH can still do a fair bit of damage...


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    Posted 15 January 2013 - 04:58 AM

    I understand what they say. I think this should be done in order but this will just reduce 12-9s and not stop 12-9s completely. 


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