jgood6195 Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share #26 Posted January 16, 2013 I'd beg to differ... I am really against that idea... The B/Os are regularly LATE out of Eastchester esp. of late. Tonight the BxM6 apparently was MIA and the line stretched to something insane... BxM10 must've been late also... Eventually the BxM9 and BxM8 came... Those two are usually ontime though, but the BxM6 and BxM10 seem to be the most unreliable out of those 4 buses... The BxM7 runs okay but the high frequencies hide some of the lateness on that line. Reliability esp. of late out of Yonkers has been very good, not that it was ever that terrible to begin with. The only long waits I used to have was with the BxM18 for certain runs, but now that they have regulars on the line it has been much better. I can literally set my phone to when those buses will arrive. Bus Time has helped as well... I have to say though... What in the hell is wrong with those BxM6 folks that they refuse to use the subway?? They waited over an hour tonight... They must really hate the idea of using the train... My wait was maybe 5 - 6 minutes tops for my bus.... I had to chuckle... You would think they had high frequencies they way they show up for that bus... They really should learn how to read a schedule... You have HOURLY service!! If I were those people, I would of not even waste my time and take the 6 train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 16, 2013 Share #27 Posted January 16, 2013 If I were those people, I would of not even waste my time and take the 6 train. I'm serious though... I really think these folks have an agenda because their dedication to that line is unbelievable. To waste an hour waiting for that bus and then almost another hour to get home.... Could've taken the train and been home already. The way I see it, if the they would cut could that line because they have subway service right there. The only reason that line is around is because those folks are clearly hell bent on using it. It seems to show up whenever which may explain why they show up 20 mins early. It's like a Staten Island version of the old X10, but now they can track the bus, so I really don't get why they wait like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgood6195 Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share #28 Posted January 16, 2013 I'm serious though... I really think these folks have an agenda because their dedication to that line is unbelievable. To waste an hour waiting for that bus and then almost another hour to get home.... Could've taken the train and been home already. The way I see it, if the they would cut could that line because they have subway service right there. The only reason that line is around is because those folks are clearly hell bent on using it. It seems to show up whenever which may explain why they show up 20 mins early. It's like a Staten Island version of the old X10, but now they can track the bus, so I really don't get why they wait like that. Hidden Transit fans? lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 16, 2013 Share #29 Posted January 16, 2013 Hidden Transit fans? lol. I actually did some quick research and it seems as if the BxM6 folks would rather wait and take the express bus, citing more comfort and convenience over the subway, even if they have to wait for it longer and pay more.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgood6195 Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share #30 Posted January 16, 2013 I actually did some quick research and it seems as if the BxM6 folks would rather wait and take the express bus, citing more comfort and convenience over the subway, even if they have to wait for it longer and pay more.... Hmm, makes sense I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted January 16, 2013 Share #31 Posted January 16, 2013 I'm serious though... I really think these folks have an agenda because their dedication to that line is unbelievable. To waste an hour waiting for that bus and then almost another hour to get home.... Could've taken the train and been home already. The way I see it, if the they would cut could that line because they have subway service right there. The only reason that line is around is because those folks are clearly hell bent on using it. It seems to show up whenever which may explain why they show up 20 mins early. It's like a Staten Island version of the old X10, but now they can track the bus, so I really don't get why they wait like that. You advocating people take the filthy subway over the express bus? Lol! Someone must've hijacked your account. j/k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted January 16, 2013 Share #32 Posted January 16, 2013 126th and MJQ could do some of their runs on weekends. Um, no they can't. Both of them combined do not have the amount of artics needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CT1660- Posted January 16, 2013 Share #33 Posted January 16, 2013 How about none of the depots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 16, 2013 Share #34 Posted January 16, 2013 How about none of the depots. Yeah what is the obsession with having depots open only during the week?? I mean do folks really think it would save any real money doing this nonsense? With Staten Island it makes sense with Charleston because of the location and previous history of Yukon and Castleton, but Staten Island is a unique case that can't be applied across the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 16, 2013 Share #35 Posted January 16, 2013 You advocating people take the filthy subway over the express bus? Lol! Someone must've hijacked your account. j/k I just find it funny that an urban area clings to express bus service like that. I mean if the express buses are screwed up I would not wait an hour when I have MetroNorth right there nearby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted January 16, 2013 Share #36 Posted January 16, 2013 I'm serious though... I really think these folks have an agenda because their dedication to that line is unbelievable. To waste an hour waiting for that bus and then almost another hour to get home.... Could've taken the train and been home already. The way I see it, if the they would cut could that line because they have subway service right there. The only reason that line is around is because those folks are clearly hell bent on using it. It seems to show up whenever which may explain why they show up 20 mins early. It's like a Staten Island version of the old X10, but now they can track the bus, so I really don't get why they wait like that.Well perhaps they're waiting early because they have nothing else to do or because it sporadically shows up either early, late, or a conbonation of both. Believe me, that used to phase me out too, but when you're dealing with hourly or near hourly frequncies, you're making every attempt to make sure you don't miss your trip, . Hell, considering the bus routes near my home run every 70 minutes, on the rare occasion I miss my intended trip, I just wait for the next one because it would be pointless to walk home then walk back over. Just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted January 16, 2013 Share #37 Posted January 16, 2013 I'd beg to differ... I am really against that idea... The B/Os are regularly LATE out of Eastchester esp. of late. Tonight the BxM6 apparently was MIA and the line stretched to something insane... In other words, the bus that was due did not show and you had two bus loads of folks waiting at that stop because those idiots show up a good 20 minutes early for the next bus due... Smh BxM10 must've been late also... Eventually the BxM9 and BxM8 came... Those two are usually ontime though, but the BxM6 and BxM10 seem to be the most unreliable out of those 4 buses... The BxM7 runs okay but the high frequencies hide some of the lateness on that line. Reliability esp. of late out of Yonkers has been very good, not that it was ever that terrible to begin with. The only long waits I used to have was with the BxM18 for certain runs, but now that they have regulars on the line it has been much better. I can literally set my phone to when those buses will arrive. Bus Time has helped as well... I have to say though... What in the hell is wrong with those BxM6 folks that they refuse to use the subway?? They waited over an hour tonight... They must really hate the idea of using the train... My wait was maybe 5 - 6 minutes tops for my bus.... I had to chuckle... You would think they had high frequencies they way they show up for that bus... They really should learn how to read a schedule... You have HOURLY service!! as JoelupFront would say, Cool story.... Except that wasn't something I was actually suggesting..... As for BxM6 riders.... aye, if they'd rather wait the hour to be dropped in front of their house (well, apartment complex) rather than taking the & [walking] or [waiting for the 4a or 22 (depending where they'd get off the subway at)] after the fact, I say let em have at it...... No different than the Riverdalians that take express buses to refrain from making their way to (1)'s to then have to be bothered w/ the headache over there on 231st/b'way w/ those crowds piling up waiting for & squeezing their way onto Bx7's or 10's...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MTA Bus Posted January 16, 2013 Share #38 Posted January 16, 2013 Let's face it, Charleston is the depot that can be weekday only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 16, 2013 Share #39 Posted January 16, 2013 As for BxM6 riders.... aye, if they'd rather wait the hour to be dropped in front of their house (well, apartment complex) rather than taking the & [walking] or [waiting for the 4a or 22 (depending where they'd get off the subway at)] after the fact, I say let em have at it...... No different than the Riverdalians that take express buses to refrain from making their way to (1)'s to then have to be bothered w/ the headache over there on 231st/b'way w/ those crowds piling up waiting for & squeezing their way onto Bx7's or 10's...... So you're telling me that the trip via the BxM6 is shorter than the say on average? In Riverdale's case the commute can be an hour and a half without the express bus esp. since we don't have subways here, so the buses shave off a good hour depending on the time of day, etc. They have a subway pretty close to where the BxM6 terminates which is what I find fascinating and the reliability seems to be pretty decent according to Jubai. The run time is 55 minutes from end to end for the BxM6 according to the schedule excluding any traffic delays, but if you add in 20 minutes or more waiting that's almost double the time, so out of curiosity how long is the typical ride there to Parkchester, Bronx, from say 23rd street on the ? As for your comments on Yonkers, please clarify what you meant. Well perhaps they're waiting early because they have nothing else to do or because it sporadically shows up either early, late, or a conbonation of both. Believe me, that used to phase me out too, but when you're dealing with hourly or near hourly frequncies, you're making every attempt to make sure you don't miss your trip, . Hell, considering the bus routes near my home run every 70 minutes, on the rare occasion I miss my intended trip, I just wait for the next one because it would be pointless to walk home then walk back over. Just my two cents. Oh believe me I do the same thing, but if there is a subway nearby and it isn't too much of a headache to take and I am pressed for time, I take the subway... The other thing I don't get about them is they're so loyal to that bus, but it seems to be the most unreliable out of all of those Eastchester express bus routes, which is odd to me. I would think they would be pretty vocal about it being on time more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 16, 2013 Share #40 Posted January 16, 2013 You advocating people take the filthy subway over the express bus? Lol! Someone must've hijacked your account. j/k No there's a time when practicality comes into play... I'm not advocating the subway at all, but let's be realistic now... I am not going to wait over an hour for a bus if I have a viable alternative nearby that doesn't further elongate my commute. Now if my "alternative" involves a ton of transfers, then I can understand waiting for the express bus. In my case my commutes would involve multiple transfers and since I don't have a subway nearby in most cases, I stick with the express bus, but other times I would use MetroNorth a taxi or if there is a subway nearby then sure the subway, if it isn't too much of a pain. You see I'm an advocate for buses overall because they aren't always slow and actually can play a very important role in the overall scheme of things, which the realizes and is trying to find ways to attract riders back to buses and so that's another reason why I would be against closing depots. I want to see bus service grow and this nonsense about closing down depots could very well contract bus service and deter ridership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted January 16, 2013 Share #41 Posted January 16, 2013 So you're telling me that the trip via the BxM6 is shorter than the say on average? In Riverdale's case the commute can be an hour and a half without the express bus esp. since we don't have subways here, so the buses shave off a good hour depending on the time of day, etc. They have a subway pretty close to where the BxM6 terminates which is what I find fascinating and the reliability seems to be pretty decent according to Jubai. The run time is 55 minutes from end to end for the BxM6 according to the schedule excluding any traffic delays, but if you add in 20 minutes or more waiting that's almost double the time, so out of curiosity how long is the typical ride there to Parkchester, Bronx, from say 23rd street on the ? As for your comments on Yonkers, please clarify what you meant. - I was throwing it out there as a suggestion to whoever feels that certain depots should be closed..... I shrugged when I said that then & I'm shrugging over the fact you (or anyone else) might have thought that was a serious suggestion I was making..... - Don't know if an average trip/commute on the BxM6 is shorter than the b/c to be honest, I never compared the two commutes & really, I don't take the 6 to/from the bronx like that..... I was not implicating that anyway (about the Bxm6 being shorter) when I said "let em (the riders) have at it"..... Let people take whatever mode of transportation they want, was my point with that..... Anyway, most off peak trips don't take almost an hour; there have been times I've taken BxM6's & got to hugh grant cir. (from 23rd) in 35-40 mins.... Usually don't ride up to met oval, but from hugh grant circle, it's less than 5 mins. so, yeah...... Most peak (PM) trips though are closer to that hour, so I would say that 55 mins. or w/e is factoring in highway traffic..... Any other questions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 17, 2013 Share #42 Posted January 17, 2013 - I was throwing it out there as a suggestion to whoever feels that certain depots should be closed..... I shrugged when I said that then & I'm shrugging over the fact you (or anyone else) might have thought that was a serious suggestion I was making..... - Don't know if an average trip/commute on the BxM6 is shorter than the b/c to be honest, I never compared the two commutes & really, I don't take the 6 to/from the bronx like that..... I was not implicating that anyway (about the Bxm6 being shorter) when I said "let em (the riders) have at it"..... Let people take whatever mode of transportation they want, was my point with that..... Anyway, most off peak trips don't take almost an hour; there have been times I've taken BxM6's & got to hugh grant cir. (from 23rd) in 35-40 mins.... Usually don't ride up to met oval, but from hugh grant circle, it's less than 5 mins. so, yeah...... Most peak (PM) trips though are closer to that hour, so I would say that 55 mins. or w/e is factoring in highway traffic..... Any other questions? Gotcha... Hmm interesting... So then provided that the BxM6 is on time and there isn't tons of traffic, it technically could be much faster than the . Maybe this will get Shortline to stop calling for it to be cut. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted January 17, 2013 Share #43 Posted January 17, 2013 No, you don't understand that all of the depots in the system has a purpose on running daily. Your list above is overall disagreeable. Just an opinion.... My apologies, Just thought I fixed the typo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CT1660- Posted January 17, 2013 Share #44 Posted January 17, 2013 Someone should make this thread weekdays only... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted January 17, 2013 Share #45 Posted January 17, 2013 The only depots that really need to be closed are those comprised of mainly express bus routes that are weekdays only*. SC is never going back to 6 days a week with the B103 being so popular and of course FR being closed till it can reopen ...eventually. *So there really is no point for this thread as it is overblowing the news about the one SI depot being weekdays only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted January 17, 2013 Share #46 Posted January 17, 2013 Someone should make this thread weekdays only... Or maybe like the x29; discontinued... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted January 17, 2013 Share #47 Posted January 17, 2013 Personally, I'm not too fond of the idea of Charleston being weekday-only. I mean, if you're going to spend all that money to build it, you might as well get full use out of it. But I guess if it saves money, then I'll accept it. But I can't picture that being the case with too many other depots across the city, because Charleston only has/had 3 infrequent routes on the weekends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted January 17, 2013 Share #48 Posted January 17, 2013 Speaking of charleston, is it supposed to be express buses only? Can it take off some of the local lines that are closer there than just going back to Yukon or castleton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted January 17, 2013 Share #49 Posted January 17, 2013 Originally, it was supposed to be express only, but somewhere down the line, they decided to put local lines there. I could be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted January 17, 2013 Share #50 Posted January 17, 2013 Speaking of charleston, is it supposed to be express buses only? Can it take off some of the local lines that are closer there than just going back to Yukon or castleton? I'm pretty sure the S74/84 & S78 are based out of there. (Except on the weekends) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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