nostalgia Posted August 2, 2013 Share #1 Posted August 2, 2013 Portions of the LIRR operate by timetable authority because there are no signals. Non-signaled sections are called blocks and each block has a name. Some are easy to understand, e.g. AG for Amagansett, WH for Westhampton, and SN for Southampton. But some are a mystery. ND: Hampton Bays (But I don't see the relationship) MR AH R LD R Can somebody unravel the mysteries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted August 2, 2013 Share #2 Posted August 2, 2013 I can't unravel the mysteries for you but I could give it a shot: MR: Merrick (or if it's a really old signal then it could also refer to the former station of Moriches). AH: Are you sure that is AH? Because if it was HA it could refer to the former Union Hall Street station. LD: Boland's Landing I wonder how many I got right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted August 3, 2013 Author Share #3 Posted August 3, 2013 MR, AH, R and are on the main line. Moriches is on the Montauk Branch. The 2009 employee timetables lists the block as AH. LD is at Riverhead. Boland's Landing is at Jamaica so it can't mean LD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lirr42 Posted August 3, 2013 Share #4 Posted August 3, 2013 Allow me to do some unraveling: ND: Hampton Bays (Good Ground). "Good Ground" was the name of the station when it opened as part of the Sag Harbor Branch in 1869. MR: Manorville (St. George's Manor) a former LIRR Mainline station between Yaphank and Calverton AH: Calverton (Baiting Hollow) "Bating Hollow" was the Calverton station's original name when it opened in 1880. R: Jamesport LD: Riverhead (named in honor of former superintendent of transportation Larry Dixon. Any others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted August 3, 2013 Author Share #5 Posted August 3, 2013 Allow me to do some unraveling: ND: Hampton Bays (Good Ground). "Good Ground" was the name of the station when it opened as part of the Sag Harbor Branch in 1869. MR: Manorville (St. George's Manor) a former LIRR Mainline station between Yaphank and Calverton AH: Calverton (Baiting Hollow) "Bating Hollow" was the Calverton station's original name when it opened in 1880. R: Jamesport LD: Riverhead (named in honor of former superintendent of transportation Larry Dixon. Any others? Though not a block name, why is Y interlocking (MP 50 on Montauk Branch) named Y? Is it because the interlocking looks like a Y. (2 tracks merge into one going eastbound.) Why is the interlocking next to Deer Park called JS? On the Port Jeff Branch, how did Amott, Duke, Fox and Post interlockings get their names? Thank you for your assistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted August 3, 2013 Share #6 Posted August 3, 2013 http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirrphotos/LIRR%20STATION%20HISTORY.pdf http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirrphotos/LIRR%20CALL%20LETTERS.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lirr42 Posted August 3, 2013 Share #7 Posted August 3, 2013 Y Interlocking: Sayville JS Interlocking: named after retired LIRR Senior Vice President of Administration Jimmy Sullivan AMOTT Interlocking: named after retired LIRR engineers Joseph, Charles, and James Amott DUKE Interlocking: named after retired LIRR conductor Henry Duke FOX Interlocking: named after Joe and Walter Fox POST Interlocking: named after retired signal department engineer Howell Post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted August 3, 2013 Share #8 Posted August 3, 2013 MR, AH, R and are on the main line. Moriches is on the Montauk Branch. Wrong. Moriches is on the former Sag Harbor Branch. And I also listed Merrick as a possibility... And Boland's Landing is also referred to as LD so I wasn't that off. But looks like we got it figured out now thanks to lirr42, thanks dude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted August 3, 2013 Author Share #9 Posted August 3, 2013 Wrong. Moriches is on the former Sag Harbor Branch. And I also listed Merrick as a possibility... And Boland's Landing is also referred to as LD so I wasn't that off. But looks like we got it figured out now thanks to lirr42, thanks dude! Moriches is on the Montauk Branch. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_Moriches_(LIRR_station) Bolands Landing is not a block nor block limit station in the employee timetable. It doesn't make any sense for two locations to have the same designation in the employee timetable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted August 3, 2013 Share #10 Posted August 3, 2013 Moriches is on the former Sag Harbor Branch: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moriches_%28LIRR_Sag_Harbor_station%29 And yes, Boland's Landing is not a block limit station, if falls under the DUNTON interlocking (westbound platform only). But since 1910, long before the station was *officially* called BL, it is referred to as LD. Maybe not on the employee timetable but outside of that, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Local Posted August 13, 2013 Share #11 Posted August 13, 2013 This is very interesting. I was always a little puzzled as to how the names along the Rail Road were from and how they got here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDTA Posted August 14, 2013 Share #12 Posted August 14, 2013 Why were they named after them if you know/don't mind me asking? I mean one retired gut getting an interlocking named after them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted August 18, 2013 Author Share #13 Posted August 18, 2013 Though not blocks, does anybody know the origin of JO, KN, A, and C towers in Penn Station? Before PSCC was built, trains in the station were dispatched from "40 Office." Where is the origin of "40"? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lirr42 Posted August 19, 2013 Share #14 Posted August 19, 2013 The Penn Interlockings date all the way back to the PRR days, so I'm not exactly sure how their names came to be (it might have just been A, B, C, D for the alphabet at some point and B and D were changed to KN and JO, but I'm not sure). I am also unsure how "40 Office" got its name. 40 foot shipping containers are often used for offices, so maybe that's where the name originated from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share #15 Posted August 19, 2013 The Penn Interlockings date all the way back to the PRR days, so I'm not exactly sure how their names came to be (it might have just been A, B, C, D for the alphabet at some point and B and D were changed to KN and JO, but I'm not sure). That makes sense. There used to be F Tower in Queens. I'm not sure but I think it controlled access to Sunnyside and Gate interlocking on the Hell Gate Line. A towerman caused a fatal head-on collision on the Hell Gate Line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share #16 Posted August 19, 2013 Allow me to do some unraveling: ND: Hampton Bays (Good Ground). "Good Ground" was the name of the station when it opened as part of the Sag Harbor Branch in 1869. MR: Manorville (St. George's Manor) a former LIRR Mainline station between Yaphank and Calverton AH: Calverton (Baiting Hollow) "Bating Hollow" was the Calverton station's original name when it opened in 1880. R: Jamesport LD: Riverhead (named in honor of former superintendent of transportation Larry Dixon. Any others? It's interesting that the ETT lists stations that don't exist anymore, e.g. Calverton, Manorville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted August 21, 2013 Share #17 Posted August 21, 2013 It's interesting that the ETT lists stations that don't exist anymore, e.g. Calverton, Manorville. They may not be "stations" in the passenger sense, but they're "stations" as in block stations or other predefined, named points along the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lirr42 Posted August 21, 2013 Share #18 Posted August 21, 2013 I hear they do help...they are a good gauge as to where you are and how well you're doing (i.e. how late you are) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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