+Young+ Posted June 24, 2014 Share #1 Posted June 24, 2014 So, as I was looking at the pictures from the weekend track work that took place, I noticed that some workers, including a few supervisors, were wearing an orange vest, but it was different and unusual compared to the others: If someone can kindly elaborate as far as what's going on, I (and others) would truly appreciate it. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted June 24, 2014 Share #2 Posted June 24, 2014 I saw those too, last week. What's even bettter, they have zippers! I wanted to ask were they got them from! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted June 24, 2014 Share #3 Posted June 24, 2014 Looks like all of you foamers imposters are gonna have to start over..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elantra06 Posted June 25, 2014 Share #4 Posted June 25, 2014 If I'm correct RTO will start issuing them sometime next month. The current safety vest will start to phase out. Jan 2015 all personnel (track, signals, etc) will be required to have the new ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted June 25, 2014 Share #5 Posted June 25, 2014 If I'm correct RTO will start issuing them sometime next month. The current safety vest will start to phase out. Jan 2015 all personnel (track, signals, etc) will be required to have the new ones. Some already got theirs I guess it's where you are perhaps? Looks like all of you foamers imposters are gonna have to start over..... Let's see how long before I start seeing the pictures on Facebook with one of them wearing one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted June 25, 2014 Share #6 Posted June 25, 2014 If I'm correct RTO will start issuing them sometime next month. The current safety vest will start to phase out. Jan 2015 all personnel (track, signals, etc) will be required to have the new ones. Cool! I always hated the current ones because they are so flimsy with the buttons. That I think I heard was to make them pop off easily if they get snagged onto anything, but then they fall off too easily on their own, and could get caught even quicker that way. When I saw the new one I was going to ask about it, but figured it might only be for track workers (who are what I saw them on), and that a zipper might be seen as too unsafe for RTO for the reason mentioned. Wish they would incorporate the bright color and reflective strips into jackets, so that we would would not need a separate vest when jackets are worn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted June 25, 2014 Share #7 Posted June 25, 2014 They started giving them out on June 1st and the current ones can't be used after the end of the year. Whats funny is that they are almost identical to what the MBTA uses. The zippers should not be a problem since the sides and shoulders are velco and are designed to breakaway if they get snagged on anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedGraphic Posted June 30, 2014 Share #8 Posted June 30, 2014 I went through about three vests in one year that were from the most recent production run. The buttons were the problem. The front ones, the side ones, the ID pocket...all fell off at some point. I had an earlier-production vest that was solid as anything, but didn't have the front reflective MTA patch, so I didn't wear it in the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmallParkShuttle Posted June 30, 2014 Share #9 Posted June 30, 2014 Apparently the reflective "X" on the back was the product of product of a safety vest redesign by WMATA, down in Washington, D.C. The X is supposed to indicate the back of the person wearing the vest to other viewers (such as train operators), so that someone approaching the person in low light situations knows whether that person is facing the approaching person (or vehicle) or not. As for the zippers vs. buttons, I know that FRA mandate railroad safety vests be secured with Velcro, so as to make the vest easily detachable if it gets caught by a passing vehicle. But NYCTA doesn't have to answer to FRA... Taking another example from DC, I've seen employees issued coats and t-shirts with the reflective striping and colors to remove the extra layer of the vest and therefore the snag hazard. I've even seen highlighter green colored wool hats and gloves worn during wintertime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transitfan007 Posted July 13, 2014 Share #10 Posted July 13, 2014 I got my new vest last week had to turn in the old one. They are good for the winter, keeps you warmer; working in the tunnels is brutal these summer months with the heat. From what I heard there are also changing out these vest because too many non workers have them and cause problems by parking illegally with the vest in the window, unauthorized use, etc. I just makes it harder for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dp142 Posted July 14, 2014 Share #11 Posted July 14, 2014 Strangely enough these vests violate many rules. I'm still combing the rule book for actual rule numbers and pages. 1- They are 100% Polyester which we are told not to wear due to flammability. 2- They can be washed a maximum of 5 times according to the label. Is Transit washing them and keeping track? 3- If an employee is struck by a train will that person be blamed with "over washing" the vest to the point it no longer reflects? Now, they'll blame the employee and supervisior. I'm seeing problems with these vests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted July 15, 2014 Share #12 Posted July 15, 2014 Strangely enough these vests violate many rules. I'm still combing the rule book for actual rule numbers and pages. 1- They are 100% Polyester which we are told not to wear due to flammability. 2- They can be washed a maximum of 5 times according to the label. Is Transit washing them and keeping track? 3- If an employee is struck by a train will that person be blamed with "over washing" the vest to the point it no longer reflects? Now, they'll blame the employee and supervisior. I'm seeing problems with these vests. You aren't the Only One... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediccjh Posted July 20, 2014 Share #13 Posted July 20, 2014 Another BIG issue...they're not as reflective. Add the white reflective stripe on the current one to solve the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricknologist Posted July 20, 2014 Share #14 Posted July 20, 2014 If those new polyester vests aren't good enough, maybe we can get those lime green reflective shirts that the cleaners are getting. Hope they're not flammable as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted July 21, 2014 Share #15 Posted July 21, 2014 Oh, yeah; I just saw one of those this past week. I like the orange reflective jackets someone in Fresh Pond Depot had. In the winter, we wouldn't need a separate vest at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted July 21, 2014 Share #16 Posted July 21, 2014 Another BIG issue...they're not as reflective. Add the white reflective stripe on the current one to solve the problem. There the same as the vests the MBTA uses in Boston. I have one and I wear it at work and its much more reflective than the old TA vests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthera Posted August 19, 2014 Share #17 Posted August 19, 2014 The X on the back is a great idea. However, SHOULD THE VEST BE SNAGGED FROM BEHIND, THE ZIPPER WILL IMMEDIATELY CATCH AROUND THE NECK before a POSSIBLE break-away. I wonder what kind of tests were done before approval... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted August 24, 2014 Share #18 Posted August 24, 2014 The X on the back is a great idea. However, SHOULD THE VEST BE SNAGGED FROM BEHIND, THE ZIPPER WILL IMMEDIATELY CATCH AROUND THE NECK before a POSSIBLE break-away. I wonder what kind of tests were done before approval...The reason that the vests were changed in the first place is because the new vest is safer. It has 6 Velcro break away points that prevent injury if the vest gets caught on/in anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted August 24, 2014 Share #19 Posted August 24, 2014 lol... I'm almost certain that they're not made here in the U.S. by union workers, as some of the older uniforms were... That's probably why the new ones are so flimsy... It's odd that the unions claim that they're so pro-union and pro American jobs but buy uniforms made outside of the US... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted August 24, 2014 Share #20 Posted August 24, 2014 lol... I'm almost certain that they're not made here in the U.S. by union workers, as some of the older uniforms were... That's probably why the new ones are so flimsy... It's odd that the unions claim that they're so pro-union and pro American jobs but buy uniforms made outside of the US... Source? Link? Pics or it didnt happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted August 24, 2014 Share #21 Posted August 24, 2014 Source? Link? Pics or it didnt happen... My own two eyes are the source... My uncle works for the TA... His old MTA shirts are "Made in USA"... The newer ones are "Made in Mexico" I believe, but definitely not in the US. I happened to be at his place when the wife was doing laundry and saw some of his shirts laying there in plain view folded up where the tag shows and decided to have a peak out of interest since workers are always yelling about how they're so pro-union and pro American jobs... lol I chucked to myself and said "sellouts"... The difference between the two shirts was certainly noticeable and the newer one looked cheaper compared next to the older shirt. Color was slightly different too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted August 25, 2014 Share #22 Posted August 25, 2014 lol... I'm almost certain that they're not made here in the U.S. by union workers, as some of the older uniforms were... That's probably why the new ones are so flimsy... It's odd that the unions claim that they're so pro-union and pro American jobs but buy uniforms made outside of the US... And you'd be wrong. The vest design is from ML Kishigo and they are made by IBNYS (the same company that made the old vests) in Albany, New York. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted August 25, 2014 Share #23 Posted August 25, 2014 The old vests I know were made by blind workers upstate. I really feel sorry for those folks if the new stuff is being made outside the state/country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted August 25, 2014 Share #24 Posted August 25, 2014 My own two eyes are the source... My uncle works for the TA... His old MTA shirts are "Made in USA"... The newer ones are "Made in Mexico" I believe, but definitely not in the US. I happened to be at his place when the wife was doing laundry and saw some of his shirts laying there in plain view folded up where the tag shows and decided to have a peak out of interest since workers are always yelling about how they're so pro-union and pro American jobs... lol I chucked to myself and said "sellouts"... The difference between the two shirts was certainly noticeable and the newer one looked cheaper compared next to the older shirt. Color was slightly different too. Actually they are made in Honduras ..... Also considering the fact the MTA is the one that has control over uniforms WE wear your little sad and pathetic dig at the UNION workers is kinda laughable.... Keep riding those buses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted August 25, 2014 Share #25 Posted August 25, 2014 And you'd be wrong. The vest design is from ML Kishigo and they are made by IBNYS (the same company that made the old vests) in Albany, New York. He should be used to being wrong anyway he got "confused" in his giddiness to try to trump us he mentioned "shirts" when the topic clearly was about the "vest"... Making it more laughable.. That whole reading comprehension thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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