Abba Posted July 31, 2014 Share #1 Posted July 31, 2014 Any thoughts? I don't think the 2 train is that bad. http://straphangers.org/statesub14/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted July 31, 2014 Share #2 Posted July 31, 2014 Finally, the infamous shorten takes a break from being rated the worst by the Straphangers Campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted July 31, 2014 Share #3 Posted July 31, 2014 Ride the 2 train from 11pm to 3am on any night and you will see why it gets the score it does. Infrequent service, large crowds (no seating), and generally obnoxious behavior by 1/3 to 1/2 of the passengers in the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted July 31, 2014 Share #4 Posted July 31, 2014 What's the point of this? Nothing will get a good "grade" from them until -There are 100 TPH on every line, even the shuttles -All 468 stations are blasted with magical fairy paint that instantly restores tiling and the flooring of years of grime, even Chambers Street and 168th on the on an hourly basis -Rails are replaced with quiet materials that will not founder after being folded 10,000 times, being run over by every single rail car in the country built on standard gauge trucks, for 24 hours on end and is so environmentally friendly, Greenpeace, the EPA, and PETA collectively weep when they are installed -Every single dollar that this glorious State manages to make goes to the subway - everything -Riders are provided with enough room on a crowded subway car to make a living room out of, so no more crowded trains ever -Every car has a negative MDBF - Yes, a negative one, so for every mile they go, they actually become more reliable -trackwork is quiet, requires no shutdown of service, and is so quick that it just looks like the workers moved ten feet and left behind shiny new rail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted July 31, 2014 Share #5 Posted July 31, 2014 ^^ pretty much summed up why I take anything put out by the straphanger's campaign w/ a grain of salt.... They're agenda driven.... They're trying to cater to a particular commuter, not your average commuter in this city..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 31, 2014 Share #6 Posted July 31, 2014 Well if the reports help to improve service I'm all for it... I'm surprised that the hasn't been rated the worse more frequently... The waits are long and painful and the trains are overcrowded most of the time you need one, not to mention the shady characters that are on the train above 96th street... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted July 31, 2014 Share #7 Posted July 31, 2014 How did the E get Rated third best? Shouldn't it's rank be lower than that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peacemak3r Posted July 31, 2014 Share #8 Posted July 31, 2014 The is pretty packed at night...but even I don't think it's the worst of them all. I still hate the with a passion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted July 31, 2014 Share #9 Posted July 31, 2014 How did the E get Rated third best? Shouldn't it's rank be lower than that?R160s... Only thing you can say about the line is too many homeless people ride it, and that's only a issue during the overnight hours... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted July 31, 2014 Share #10 Posted July 31, 2014 There seem to get on at Suphin on the E, thats because theres a hospital nearby. Jamaica Hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted July 31, 2014 Share #11 Posted July 31, 2014 The problem I have with Strappies and their annual reports is their methodology for their findings. First and foremost, they fail to take in any context for their findings and studies. Of course, you're not going to get a seat on a Lexington Ave train at the height of the rush hour. I'd be more surprised if one did get a seat. And I'm not talking about at the terminals. The fact that this is 15% of the grade is ridiculous in my opinion. While the important things are given more weight in the grading system, over a third of the grade, which include the likelihood of getting a seat during rush hour, is devoted to creature comforts as I call them. Those should be 20%, tops. Then there's the fact they love to point out the bleeding obvious. Of course trains with automated announcements make better announcements than the older trains. Anyone with a brain stem could have told them that. It's kind of stupid if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted August 1, 2014 Share #12 Posted August 1, 2014 Gee I wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Dude Posted August 1, 2014 Share #13 Posted August 1, 2014 YAY THE TRAIN GOT FIRST PLACE AT $2.00! I wonder what happened to the . I've been riding it lately and it was a lot worse than it used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JubaionBx12+SBS Posted August 1, 2014 Share #14 Posted August 1, 2014 The is a mess but worst line seems far fetched. I wonder how the which for most of the route is an assistant to the gets better ratings though. I take very little from this report seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted August 1, 2014 Share #15 Posted August 1, 2014 Simple, because the is shorter than the and only interacts with it throughout its run. It is also funny how the R62s have one of the highest MDBFs, despite the fact that they're older than the NTTs, since the runs part-time like the does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Posted August 1, 2014 Share #16 Posted August 1, 2014 Ride the 2 train from 11pm to 3am on any night and you will see why it gets the score it does. Infrequent service, large crowds (no seating), and generally obnoxious behavior by 1/3 to 1/2 of the passengers in the car. TBH, I don't know how and why Bronx residents have put up with this service so long. I am very fortunate I don't live along that route. I would be driven crazy. The 5 train needs to do some more heavy lifting on the Bronx side. YAY THE TRAIN GOT FIRST PLACE AT $2.00! I wonder what happened to the . I've been riding it lately and it was a lot worse than it used to be. Astoria is what happened. Also, they seem to be going slower entering Atlantic Terminal. Dekalb doesn't help it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted August 1, 2014 Share #17 Posted August 1, 2014 Gee I wonder why? Yeah they just dont seem to get that CBTC failures result in a drop in the cars MDBFs. They need to do some research. Isnt the R143 SMS happening in 2015? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted August 1, 2014 Share #18 Posted August 1, 2014 Yeah they just dont seem to get that CBTC failures result in a drop in the cars MDBFs. They need to do some research. Isnt the R143 SMS happening in 2015? i think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted August 1, 2014 Share #19 Posted August 1, 2014 TBH, I don't know how and why Bronx residents have put up with this service so long. I am very fortunate I don't live along that route. I would be driven crazy. The 5 train needs to do some more heavy lifting on the Bronx side. I lived on the BK end of the 2 and I loved it, it was one of the few subway lines you could get a seat going back to BK from the City on Saturday evenings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Dude Posted August 2, 2014 Share #20 Posted August 2, 2014 Astoria is what happened. Also, they seem to be going slower entering Atlantic Terminal. Dekalb doesn't help it either. What do you mean Astoria? Do you mean that with its extension, the receives more problems or something? It feels like the gets less service on the Astoria Branch. Saw an , haven't seen a . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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