TheNewYorkElevated Posted September 23, 2014 Share #1 Posted September 23, 2014 Guess what? If you haven't already heard, the 43th Street-Javits Center extension has been pushed back to February 2015, due to complications of the inclined elevator. So the won't being going to Hudson Yards for 5 more months. *Sorry, I mean 34th Street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelhamlocal Posted September 23, 2014 Share #2 Posted September 23, 2014 I knew the elevator was having problems back at the factory, but 5 months damn..... well thats the mta for ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biGC323232 Posted September 23, 2014 Share #3 Posted September 23, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted September 23, 2014 Share #4 Posted September 23, 2014 Guess what? If you haven't already heard, the 43th Street-Javits Center extension has been pushed back to February 2015, due to complications of the inclined elevator. So the won't being going to Hudson Yards for 5 more months. *Sorry, I mean 34th Street We've kinda known that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted September 23, 2014 Share #5 Posted September 23, 2014 We've kinda known that... Exactly like what else is new... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted September 23, 2014 Share #6 Posted September 23, 2014 Shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACEVE14 Posted September 23, 2014 Share #7 Posted September 23, 2014 Guess what? If you haven't already heard, the 43th Street-Javits Center extension has been pushed back to February 2015, due to complications of the inclined elevator. So the won't being going to Hudson Yards for 5 more months. *Sorry, I mean 34th Street What the hell, MTA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Dude Posted September 24, 2014 Share #8 Posted September 24, 2014 Inclined elevator? You just won't save your money to build a regular one, will you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted September 25, 2014 Share #9 Posted September 25, 2014 Inclined elevator? You just won't save your money to build a regular one, will you? In this case, it probably came out cost-neutral or cost-positive, given the depth of the station; the inclined elevator allows the elevator to travel in the same shaft as the escalator, vs. building an expensive vertical shaft with connecting passageway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparen of Iria Posted September 25, 2014 Share #10 Posted September 25, 2014 I remember back in the day when I regained my subway obsession. I was all "YES! I'll be able to visit the new subway station before I graduate from High School!" Well, then it got pushed back to June. And then it got pushed back to what, September? (then November, December, February 2015, and now March 2015). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsperez93 Posted October 3, 2014 Share #11 Posted October 3, 2014 Does anyone know by any chance when they will release nothing but newer subway cars for 7 trains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYtransit Posted October 3, 2014 Share #12 Posted October 3, 2014 Does anyone know by any chance when they will release nothing but newer subway cars for 7 trains? What are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstar1 Posted October 3, 2014 Share #13 Posted October 3, 2014 R188 I hope that's what he's talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjbr40 Posted October 3, 2014 Share #14 Posted October 3, 2014 why can't MTA just open the station without the inclinator. Just let the passenger know it not ada yet. Get some money rolling in that station. They should check with Luxopr hotel to see where they got their inclinator from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted October 3, 2014 Share #15 Posted October 3, 2014 why can't MTA just open the station without the inclinator. Just let the passenger know it not ada yet. Get some money rolling in that station. They should check with Luxopr hotel to see where they got their inclinator from. Because that would violate federal anti-discrimination laws. They actually bought the inclined elevator from the same company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjbr40 Posted October 3, 2014 Share #16 Posted October 3, 2014 it not discriminating it just delayed. that law is bullsht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted October 3, 2014 Share #17 Posted October 3, 2014 it not discriminating it just delayed. that law is bullsht What's a couple months? Hudson Yards is not open yet, and the only two things of value opened right now are the Javits Center and the High Line. The area survived without a big subway station for decades; surely, with nothing much changed right now, they can handle it for a couple of months. Disabled people are a protected class the same way the federal government protects members of different races, genders, religious affiliation, political affiliation, and age from discrimination, and the same way the state government protects members of different sexualities. It is important that all members of protected classes be provided equality of opportunity to participate in and be productive members of society, and for disabled people, equality of mobility is particularly important. As it stands right now, the MTA is possibly one of the least ADA-friendly transit agencies in the nation; it refuses to upgrade to 100% accessibility even when rehabbing stations, an overwhelming majority of stations are not accessible, and at stations that are accessible, only a one-car length is usually actually accessible for wheelchairs and elevators are often malfunctioning. The law is not bullshit, and a couple months is not a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 3, 2014 Share #18 Posted October 3, 2014 What's a couple months? Hudson Yards is not open yet, and the only two things of value opened right now are the Javits Center and the High Line. The area survived without a big subway station for decades; surely, with nothing much changed right now, they can handle it for a couple of months. Disabled people are a protected class the same way the federal government protects members of different races, genders, religious affiliation, political affiliation, and age from discrimination, and the same way the state government protects members of different sexualities. It is important that all members of protected classes be provided equality of opportunity to participate in and be productive members of society, and for disabled people, equality of mobility is particularly important. As it stands right now, the MTA is possibly one of the least ADA-friendly transit agencies in the nation; it refuses to upgrade to 100% accessibility even when rehabbing stations, an overwhelming majority of stations are not accessible, and at stations that are accessible, only a one-car length is usually actually accessible for wheelchairs and elevators are often malfunctioning. The law is not bullshit, and a couple months is not a big deal. It's good to see other folks standing up for the disabled around here. Too many self-centered types these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjbr40 Posted October 4, 2014 Share #19 Posted October 4, 2014 i am not against ADA. The MTA got the thing going and still trying hard to get it open. It not their fault if the elevator is not working properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparen of Iria Posted October 4, 2014 Share #20 Posted October 4, 2014 i am not against ADA. The MTA got the thing going and still trying hard to get it open. It not their fault if the elevator is not working properly. ...They REALLY should have just stuck with normal elevators... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted October 4, 2014 Share #21 Posted October 4, 2014 i am not against ADA. The MTA got the thing going and still trying hard to get it open. It not their fault if the elevator is not working properly. It is their fault; they bought the elevator, and it's their responsibility. ...They REALLY should have just stuck with normal elevators... The thing is that that would also have been really expensive; the station is about 100 feet into the ground, so that would mean sinking a brand new vertical shaft and horizontal passageway to access said shaft from the mezzanine. The way it's being done now, the elevator shares a shaft with the escalators, which probably is saving them a load of money. Six months after it's open nobody will give a s*** and we'll all forget this debate ever happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted October 4, 2014 Share #22 Posted October 4, 2014 It is their fault; they bought the elevator, and it's their responsibility. The thing is that that would also have been really expensive; the station is about 100 feet into the ground, so that would mean sinking a brand new vertical shaft and horizontal passageway to access said shaft from the mezzanine. The way it's being done now, the elevator shares a shaft with the escalators, which probably is saving them a load of money. Six months after it's open nobody will give a s*** and we'll all forget this debate ever happened. Just like how most people forgot how new SF had a delayed opening because of ADA compliance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparen of Iria Posted October 4, 2014 Share #23 Posted October 4, 2014 Just like how most people forgot how new SF had a delayed opening because of ADA compliance You mean the platform edges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted October 5, 2014 Share #24 Posted October 5, 2014 You mean the platform edges? Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsperez93 Posted October 7, 2014 Share #25 Posted October 7, 2014 R188 I hope that's what he's talking about If that is what you refer to as the newer subway cars for the 7 line, then yes that is what I am talking about? Sorry everyone, I been away from New York City for 2 years and I just got back home and I have always been a fan of the subway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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