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The city’s subways are constantly being disrupted — by jerks!

An epidemic of bad behavior by out-of-control passengers has caused the number of delays in the city subway system to skyrocket, according to data obtained by The Post.

The system has degenerated into such a cesspool of trouble-making that more than 2,300 train delays attributed to unruly customers were reported in January — an 80 percent increase over the year before.

The numbers were also up 43 percent in December and 53 percent in November.

The rampant rudeness includes everything from vagrants getting into fistfights to people pulling the emergency brakes — and break dancers causing delays by holding doors open, sources said.

Police are called to many of these incidents, typically by transit workers.

The (6) line had the most delays caused by unruly riders, followed by the (2) , (5) , (E) and (R) , sources said. The (7) and the (L) were the calmest.

“People think they can do whatever they want,” said a police source. “Smoke, act unruly, start fights. But they don’t realize that they are on (MTA) property and . . . they don’t realize they have to follow the rules.”

 

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Everyone seemed to have horror stories of trains being held up by thoughtless passengers.

Music teacher Chris Bates, 22, of Washington Heights, said an (A) train was recently delayed as three drunken men brawled.

“They were trying to punch each other through the doors,” he said. “It was annoying because the train was held up.”

Laura Simpson, 49, of Inwood, said she was disgusted recently when the doors couldn’t close because an adult rider was punching a teenage girl.

“The woman said that somebody pushed her,” said Simpson. “And so she stood in the door and she was punching the girl. And she pushed the girl off the train, and the girl tried to get back on the train, so she was hitting her.”

On Sunday alone, there were more than 20 incidents. They included a deranged man who punched a female conductor at the Euclid Avenue station on the (A) line and a violent man who frightened (E) riders so much, they called for help on an intercom. An unruly homeless man also hit the emergency brake on a (Q) train at Times Square and then fled.

Transit cops also recently nabbed an armed straphanger for threatening passengers.

“Move out of the way, you don’t want me to hurt you,” Pedro Moreno, 53, allegedly snapped at riders Feb. 17 at the Lexington Avenue-59th Street station. Cops found a .25-caliber handgun with one round in the chamber.

“People are awful, and they behave despicably during rush hour,” said frustrated carpenter Pat Cashin, 36, of Woodside.

“People are always holding the doors and they try to cram their way in when there’s no room. That’s what’s causing the delays and the arguments. Hands down, it’s worse than it used to be.”

The delays sometimes have deadly results. On March 10, service was disrupted when a retired correction officer killed a drunken man in the Borough Hall station following a fight on a (4) train.

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Source: http://nypost.com/2015/03/26/unruly-passengers-causing-increase-in-subway-train-delays/

 

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There needs to be a greater police presence as well.  I use the subway about one day during the week, and there is always someone playing guitar on EVERY damn (A) train I get on, and some crazed person walking around on the platform talking to themselves. I was shocked that the (D) train wasn't packed last night.  It must've been some miracle.

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It's not just people. Even thought (MTA) states do not push baby in stroller into closing door, but they do it, especially on (7)<7>.

 

Also cyclists not following rules and riding on crowded trains during rush hour and not using first or last cars of trains.

 

Also people trying to squeeze into overpacked trains during rush hour, (1)(2)(3) uptown at Times Sq, (1) to 96th St, (7) boarding at Queensboro Plaza, especially when Astoria-bound (N)(Q) arrives at same time, (7)<7> at Flushing-Main St, etc.

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Suprised that the (D) wasn't one of them and that the (R) is. Now, I guess my mother should hear of this. She considers the (J) and (L) the most dangerous subway lines for some reason. Probably because they serve that part of Brooklyn...

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Shit, i have a couple of these stories of my own. It's crazy the amount neanderthals there are today in NYC. I agree with @VG8 that there should be a police presence, furthermore, I think that certain rush hour trains should be selected to have a crew of two officers that would patrol every car more than once per trip, as much money as this would cost in payroll to police forces, it should definitely be implemented to keep New Yorkers safe

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There needs to be a greater police presence as well.  I use the subway about one day during the week, and there is always someone playing guitar on EVERY damn (A) train I get on, and some crazed person walking around on the platform talking to themselves. I was shocked that the (D) train wasn't packed last night.  It must've been some miracle.

The guitar player is put first than the crazy man? Perspective,sir!

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They're both nut jobs.  With the crazy guy on the platform, I can simply walk away from.  The guy yelling in my ear on the (A) I'm stuck with until at least the next stop.

That I can relate to. Especially when your on a SMEE and the doors are locked and you forgot your headphones.

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That I can relate to. Especially when your on a SMEE and the doors are locked and you forgot your headphones.

I usually try to avoid taking the (A) completely, but the other night I had just missed a (C) train and wanted to get Downtown quickly to get the BxM2 home, so I said f**k it and saw an (A) coming and got on, but scanned the cars to see who was inside.  I strategically picked which door I would enter through so that I could make a quick exit and move to the next car if need be, and sure enough, as soon as I stepped on, some guy is yelling at the top of his lungs with his guitar blaring.  I immediately left that car and ran to the next one. Not only are these "performers" loud and obnoxious, and create hazardous conditions, they also can harass passengers for money. People are just trying to get from point A to point B quickly and safely.  All of the other nonsense I could do without.

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It's not just people. Even thought (MTA) states do not push baby in stroller into closing door, but they do it, especially on (7)<7>.

 

Also cyclists not following rules and riding on crowded trains during rush hour and not using first or last cars of trains.

 

Also people trying to squeeze into overpacked trains during rush hour, (1)(2)(3) uptown at Times Sq, (1) to 96th St, (7) boarding at Queensboro Plaza, especially when Astoria-bound (N)(Q) arrives at same time, (7)<7> at Flushing-Main St, etc.

 

Well I think Cyclists shouldn't even use the subway in the first place. What is the point of you having a bicycle when your just going to use the subway. Just bike your way to work, or wherever you need to go. 

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I agree with you 1000%.

 

You're made up of 10 people?

They need to arrest all of these illegal performers. Safer and less annoying for the rest of us.

 

Well I think Cyclists shouldn't even use the subway in the first place. What is the point of you having a bicycle when your just going to use the subway. Just bike your way to work, or wherever you need to go. 

 

I agree with both of you. 

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Well I think Cyclists shouldn't even use the subway in the first place. What is the point of you having a bicycle when your just going to use the subway. Just bike your way to work, or wherever you need to go. 

 

Shit goes wrong. I've never personally taken my bike on the train, but I do it in a minute if I got a flat tire or got stuck in a particularly bad storm. During rush hour it's pretty unacceptable, but most of the time it's no issue.

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Well I think Cyclists shouldn't even use the subway in the first place. What is the point of you having a bicycle when your just going to use the subway. Just bike your way to work, or wherever you need to go. 

I know one thing.  They smell God awful.  There's this lawyer that I see who bikes to his office from time to time... I don't know if there's a shower in his office or what but man does he smell bad. It's bad enough with the homeless camping out in the cars... Don't need more crazy smells coming in.

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Well I think Cyclists shouldn't even use the subway in the first place. What is the point of you having a bicycle when your just going to use the subway. Just bike your way to work, or wherever you need to go.

I've done it before, multiple times at that. Every time I ride my bike, I carry a metrocard with me for the off chance something goes wrong with the bike.

 

Years ago (back when I was living in Bushwick), I rode my bike all the way to the Rockaways (down via Flatbush, up via Cross Bay/Woodhaven). Ended up catching a flat on the stretch of Cross Bay through the wildlife sanctuary. Didn't have a spare inner tube with me, so I walked the bike to Howard Beach and took the (A) home.

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Shit goes wrong. I've never personally taken my bike on the train, but I do it in a minute if I got a flat tire or got stuck in a particularly bad storm. During rush hour it's pretty unacceptable, but most of the time it's no issue.

 

It's definitely an issue during rush hours for obvious reasons, but what annoys me the most when people bring bikes is the fact that they block the door or block my path. They usually enter through the middle doors and it is annoying as hell. If someone wants to bring a bike on the subway they should make sure the train isn't too crowded, they use one of the rear doors, and they don't block people's path.

 

I know one thing.  They smell God awful.  There's this lawyer that I see who bikes to his office from time to time... I don't know if there's a shower in his office or what but man does he smell bad. It's bad enough with the homeless camping out in the cars... Don't need more crazy smells coming in.

 

That is another thing that annoys me. People who smells like donkey ass and get on the subway.

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I’ve yelled at people for brazenly taking burning cigarettes into subway trains. I haven’t gotten too much trouble for it yet as most people comply, but there’s almost always something wrong with every subway ride. And usually, it’s homeless people.

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I’ve yelled at people for brazenly taking burning cigarettes into subway trains. I haven’t gotten too much trouble for it yet as most people comply, but there’s almost always something wrong with every subway ride. And usually, it’s homeless people.

Homeless people, performers, drug dealers, high schoolers and Asians selling candy and DVDs respectively, drunk people, students looking for a fight, I've seen it all.
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