Sparen of Iria Posted May 27, 2015 Share #1 Posted May 27, 2015 MTA Video Release: News page:http://www.mta.info/news-rockaway-line-subway-new-york-city-transit-copper/2015/05/27/cable-theft-near-howard-beach More subway vandalism... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sovetskii52 Posted May 27, 2015 Share #2 Posted May 27, 2015 I think we all know who's responsible for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted May 27, 2015 Share #3 Posted May 27, 2015 I think we all know who's responsible for this. What? What are you talking about? This is a large, professionally stolen amount of copper wiring that is worth a lot of money on the black market and was taken by somebody who knew exactly what they were doing. If you know who that is, tell the NYPD, but I don't think you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted May 27, 2015 Share #4 Posted May 27, 2015 I think we all know who's responsible for this. No conquesters were involved. What? What are you talking about? This is a large, professionally stolen amount of copper wiring that is worth a lot of money on the black market and was taken by somebody who knew exactly what they were doing. If you know who that is, tell the NYPD, but I don't think you do. Right. Also, things like this have been going on for years. Although personally, I think it's an inside job.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmare402 Posted May 27, 2015 Share #5 Posted May 27, 2015 Wow... but.. how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted May 27, 2015 Share #6 Posted May 27, 2015 So random that the MTA did a press release video about this. This also happens on LIRR and MN as well (people stealing wires). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted May 27, 2015 Share #7 Posted May 27, 2015 Wow. Does anyone know if the MTA is moving towards replacing copper wire with fiber optic cables? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted May 27, 2015 Share #8 Posted May 27, 2015 I think we all know who's responsible for this. Nah, they aint to smart to pull something like this. This is a professional job, those cables look like they were cut with a certified tool only electricians have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3216068E Posted May 27, 2015 Share #9 Posted May 27, 2015 Somebody stole copper wires and crippled and device sorry for the last 2 fail threads my computer was acting up http://www.mta.info/news-rockaway-line-subway-new-york-city-transit-copper/2015/05/27/cable-theft-near-howard-beach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted May 27, 2015 Share #10 Posted May 27, 2015 I was just thinking, wouldn't someone get electrocuted trying to cut those wires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted May 27, 2015 Share #11 Posted May 27, 2015 This morning on my way to school, I was quite sure that Lefferts can handle 9-12 trains per hour on the . There was no need to any of them at Euclid and reduce the (and run the local) like that, unless Lefferts can't handle more than at least 9-12 trains an hour or there were put-ins that is. Can't believe I saw northbound 's running local in Brooklyn and were all severely overcrowded (including on the station platforms). Not literary a good move at all, . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted May 27, 2015 Share #12 Posted May 27, 2015 I was just thinking, wouldn't someone get electrocuted trying to cut those wires? If they are low-voltage wires for communication (like your copper telephone wire), you could cut through them without feeling anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sovetskii52 Posted May 27, 2015 Share #13 Posted May 27, 2015 Yeah, I changed my mind shortly after posting my first comment. This seems too complex for a group of teens to do. If this has been going on for years then I would guess that little by little something to narrow down the possibilities of who did or been doing this would be collected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparen of Iria Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share #14 Posted May 28, 2015 I was under the impression that if Pelham Bay Park and Astoria can turn so many trains with the restrictions, Lefferts should have been able to handle the as well... Looks like either the MTA played it safe or I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted May 28, 2015 Share #15 Posted May 28, 2015 It's so terrible cooper theive causes major chaos for residents and tourists. I'm sure some tourists properly miss their flight if they took . Speaking off Cooper Theives, I only thought cooper theives are only in California because I watch Stanley Robert's Kron4 News segment "People Behaving Badly" segment. How could cooper theive do this to our subway system. Properly as of result, tourist on heading to JFK properly might miss their flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abba Posted May 28, 2015 Share #16 Posted May 28, 2015 This morning on my way to school, I was quite sure that Lefferts can handle 9-12 trains per hour on the . There was no need to any of them at Euclid and reduce the (and run the local) like that, unless Lefferts can't handle more than at least 9-12 trains an hour or there were put-ins that is. Can't believe I saw northbound 's running local in Brooklyn and were all severely overcrowded (including on the station platforms). Not literary a good move at all, . In their article they said trains were trapped in yards. So maybe there was less service? But I agree that lefferts and far rock should be able to handle 9-12 trains per hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itmaybeokay Posted May 28, 2015 Share #17 Posted May 28, 2015 If they are low-voltage wires for communication (like your copper telephone wire), you could cut through them without feeling anything. Actually it looked like at least some of the cut wires were the large negative return tie wires from the running rails to the negative mains. These wouldn't be energized unless there's a train nearby completing the circuit between the 3rd rail and the running rails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted May 28, 2015 Share #18 Posted May 28, 2015 Actually it looked like at least some of the cut wires were the large negative return tie wires from the running rails to the negative mains. These wouldn't be energized unless there's a train nearby completing the circuit between the 3rd rail and the running rails. That's a good point. Some of the pictures looked like signal communication wires, but those vandals definitely didn't care what they ripping apart to make money lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted May 28, 2015 Share #19 Posted May 28, 2015 In their article they said trains were trapped in yards. So maybe there was less service? But I agree that lefferts and far rock should be able to handle 9-12 trains per hour. No. They only said that the five Rock Park trains were all trapped in the Rock Park yard. They didn't mean Pitkin and 207 yards. Yes, Lefferts can handle 9-12 trains per hour. They had no reason to reduce service by terminating "every other" train at Euclid and having the running local, causing even more crowding and delays along the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juelz4309 Posted May 28, 2015 Share #20 Posted May 28, 2015 I find This theft to be crazzzy to the point that it could disrupt subway service to this extreme. Its easy to see how they got to the "A" Line in where they did becuase the tracks are at ground level (albeit may be hard to get to). On a sidenote though I find the headways on this line to be horrible!. I only take the A On Fridays (like 2morrow) after work and its 430pm @59 ST and 3 "D"s 2 "B"s and a "C" will come before the next "A" Going uptown arrives., of course as been stated here the train is at crush capacity.Its downright Madness that the cities longest subway line at 31 Miles only sees service evry 20 minutes beyond Rockaway Blvd and the respected terminals..so you get trains every 10 minutes bet Rockaway-207 st...This is Unacceptable...How about MTA Increasing headways to every 5 Minutes Rockaway blvd-207 or at least 168 st.If they can run "E" trains every 2-3 minutes it seems they can do the same for the "A"...Oh and the whole terminal capacity thing blows minds if u ask me...its a simple flip of a switch..realistically how long does it take to reverse ends and pull back out????? Carry on Tho! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted May 29, 2015 Share #21 Posted May 29, 2015 I find This theft to be crazzzy to the point that it could disrupt subway service to this extreme. Its easy to see how they got to the "A" Line in where they did becuase the tracks are at ground level (albeit may be hard to get to). On a sidenote though I find the headways on this line to be horrible!. I only take the A On Fridays (like 2morrow) after work and its 430pm @59 ST and 3 "D"s 2 "B"s and a "C" will come before the next "A" Going uptown arrives., of course as been stated here the train is at crush capacity.Its downright Madness that the cities longest subway line at 31 Miles only sees service evry 20 minutes beyond Rockaway Blvd and the respected terminals..so you get trains every 10 minutes bet Rockaway-207 st...This is Unacceptable...How about MTA Increasing headways to every 5 Minutes Rockaway blvd-207 or at least 168 st.If they can run "E" trains every 2-3 minutes it seems they can do the same for the "A"...Oh and the whole terminal capacity thing blows minds if u ask me...its a simple flip of a switch..realistically how long does it take to reverse ends and pull back out????? Carry on Tho! lol You know, you could post something like this in the Proposal Thread... And if I'm not mistaken, trains are slightly less frequent coming out of Manhattan in the AM rush (and back into Manhattan in the PM rush). Inwood and Washington Heights residents get off in Midtown Manhattan and Lower Manhattan for work in the morning and return home in the evening. The north end doesn't really need much service because it's just 5 stops north of 168th Street. As for the south end, the combined Lefferts, Far Rock and Rock Park branches carry more people than the 5 stops north of 168th Street. That's why the has about 15-18 trains per hour (give or take) coming out of Brooklyn into Manhattan in the AM rush and back from Manhattan into Brooklyn in the PM rush. I don't really see why you want more trains on the anyway, because when you ride it during the off-peak, all you would see is the train having all of its seats filled up with some standees (the end cars being somewhat crowded occasionally) in Manhattan and Brooklyn (and very empty in Queens, especially in the Rockaways except summer beach crowds). Just because fewer other lines are more frequent doesn't mean every line has to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted May 29, 2015 Share #22 Posted May 29, 2015 There were more than the 5 trains trapped at Rock Park Yd because there are several that go across the peninsula lite and are AM put in's out of Far Rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted May 29, 2015 Share #23 Posted May 29, 2015 There were more than the 5 trains trapped at Rock Park Yd because there are several that go across the peninsula lite and are AM put in's out of Far Rock. Oh yeah, I forgot that during rush hours, there are put-ins to make a line more frequent at that time. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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