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Cait Sith

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So is this a BP or JFK unit? People keep saying it's one or the other.

 

I would think that the locations and the route(peep run box) would tell the story....it's a JFK bus.

 

After all, BP doesn't operate the Q10.

 

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Nice it is about time the JFK gets something new. I see those XD60's are pretty small interior wise compared to the D60HF's.

So is a bus being tested at BP right now?

See the pictures and the other posts here.(unless somehow your device is glitchy like mine)
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I know that the Q10 is operated out of JFK. I was asking if there is another bus being tested at BP right now because there are to be more than one test bus.

 

@S78

Yeah I know JFK got those Orion VII's back in 2009 but IMO I think they sound horrible compared to the ones at the other Queens Depots. In five years span JFK managed to get its hands on more older buses like the RTS, D60 and the 2006 Orion VII's.

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I know that the Q10 is operated out of JFK. I was asking if there is another bus being tested at BP right now because there are to be more than one test bus.

 

@S78

Yeah I know JFK got those Orion VII's back in 2009 but IMO I think they sound horrible compared to the ones at the other Queens Depots. In five years span JFK managed to get its hands on more older buses like the RTS, D60 and the 2006 Orion VII's.

No it's just 5364 at JFK
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I know that the Q10 is operated out of JFK. I was asking if there is another bus being tested at BP right now because there are to be more than one test bus.

 

@S78

Yeah I know JFK got those Orion VII's back in 2009 but IMO I think they sound horrible compared to the ones at the other Queens Depots. In five years span JFK managed to get its hands on more older buses like the RTS, D60 and the 2006 Orion VII's.

Not yet.

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90 day trial for what?  Aren't these the same buses that I see when traveling in the Bronx?  They look practically identical.

 

They look identical, but they actually aren't.

 

There's a lot of differences internally between this unit and the units up where you're at.

 

They're testing the bus for 90 days to see if there's anything they want to change or if anything needs to be fix or so on and so forth, it seems to be the standard for evaluation these days.

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They look identical, but they actually aren't.

 

There's a lot of differences internally between this unit and the units up where you're at.

 

They're testing the bus for 90 days to see if there's anything they want to change or if anything needs to be fix or so on and so forth, it seems to be the standard for evaluation these days.

Seems like they fiddle too much with these buses.  Changing the AC units, changing the door configurations...  If it ain't broke leave it the way it is.  I would use the Novas as an example.  I remember those buses having different door configurations on the S53 and they all sucked.  The doors took forever to close and God forbid if the doors closed and someone came running to get on.

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nice catch! small difference is the design in the back between the 4700s of NYCT and this bus ;)  ;) . 


90 day trial for what?  Aren't these the same buses that I see when traveling in the Bronx?  They look practically identical.

show me the difference between a 47XX & this 5364. & I'll tell you what's not the same.

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Seems like they fiddle too much with these buses.  Changing the AC units, changing the door configurations...  If it ain't broke leave it the way it is.  I would use the Novas as an example.  I remember those buses having different door configurations on the S53 and they all sucked.  The doors took forever to close and God forbid if the doors closed and someone came running to get on.

Those novas were test units, so that's exempt.

 

Changing the AC units is necessary when its needed. The LFS artics for example, blow more cold air than they used to approx. 3 years ago. Those artics used to be like saunas but now they got their HVAC's changed to newer ones with better power output and now there's decent output.

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Those novas were test units, so that's exempt.

 

Changing the AC units is necessary when its needed. The LFS artics for example, blow more cold air than they used to approx. 3 years ago. Those artics used to be like saunas but now they got their HVAC's changed to newer ones with better power output and now there's decent output.

So just to clarify, they actually build buses just as test units?  What happens to them once they're done trying them out and who pays for that?  For example, that hideous bus I saw on the M1 and M42 bus that never made it... Did the company that built them eat the cost or what? Those buses are expensive, hence my question.

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So just to clarify, they actually build buses just as test units?  What happens to them once they're done trying them out and who pays for that?  For example, that hideous bus I saw on the M1 and M42 bus that never made it... Did the company that built them eat the cost or what? Those buses are expensive, hence my question.

If they pass, they keep them. TA pays for them. If they don't pass, they send them back, TA gets the money back, the builder technically gets the short end of it unless they sell off the units. Those Designlines that came through (the buses you said on the M1 and M2), were sent back to the builder and the TA got the full cost for the contract right back mostly because they couldn't meet the delivery schedule, a whole lot of technical issues and they were severely delaying that order by at least I think...2-3 years??? Somewhere around there.

 

Ironically enough, that same company went bankrupt a couple of years after during NJ Transit's order.

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If they pass, they keep them. TA pays for them. If they don't pass, they send them back, TA gets the money back, the builder technically gets the short end of it unless they sell off the units. Those Designlines that came through (the buses you said on the M1 and M2), were sent back to the builder and the TA got the full cost for the contract right back mostly because they couldn't meet the delivery schedule and they were severely delaying that order. 

Wow... Interesting...

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