DS4Ever Posted August 30, 2015 Share #1 Posted August 30, 2015 Hello good day to you all...i was to write this thread in response to the service of Suffolk Transit...to by far the service is moderate. ..but there is a big problem. ..is the last run heading out of Riverhead Last Wednesday i got stranded in riverhead by the fact that the S92 i rode came to the Riverhead county centre at 6:57pm that is 7 minutes late from coordination. ..yhe s92 i got on was the 4:40pm frequency and was supposed to get to riverhead at 5:55pm or at least at 6:15pm or 6:30pm by the super heavy hampton traffic that gets the S92 stuck by the fact that the NYS 27 is the only road out of the hamptons In my opinion i think that the S66 should have its last frequency leave at 7:45pm since that timing looks more comfortable for a last run since it is almost 8pm and many SCT buses have their last runs at 8-9pm...lets not forget that there are only 3 bus routes for one to get out of riverhead (in the more economical way)...the S58, S62 and the S66...but of the three mentioned the latter is the most important one since it gets you to patchogue and at mentioned village one transfer to the last run of the S40 leaving at 9:30pm and arriving at Babylon at 10:20pm right on time for a future last run of the N19 leaving Babylon at 10:30pm and arriving Freeport at 11:40pm...at Freeport one no have to worry because the next bus route (n4) is 24 hours. . But returning to the thread the S66 can benefit the users to head out of Riverhead since after the last S92 leaves Riverhead at 8pm the country centre becomes a ghost town. ..is better off that the S66 upcoming at Riverhead at 7:40pm doesn't go back to the garage and make ONE MORE RUN to patchogue and at patchogue it can happily head back to the garage What do you guys think is it a good idea having the last S66 bus leave at 7:45pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac5689 Posted September 1, 2015 Share #2 Posted September 1, 2015 As someone who know the S66 schudule, the last S66 isn't suppose to get into Riverhead until 7:50, not 7:45. So any bus leaving Riverhead wouldn't get back to Patchogue until after 9:00. (9;10 if the bus left at 7:50 and 9:20 is the bus left at 8:00)That run that gets in to Riverhead at 7:50 wasn't added until a few months ago, before that the last S66 run was the 5:30 from Patchouge that got into Riverhead at 6:50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS4Ever Posted September 4, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted September 4, 2015 Thank youfor the heads up...i totally forgot that the s66 modified its route to benefit users heading and leaving Riverhead. ..not so long ago the s66 only advance to center moriches and not riverhead. ..by that time there was only two routes as escaping routes out of Riverhead and if the east end of long island. ..that are tge s58 and the s62...at that time the last s58 route leaves Riverhead at 5:45pm (today that frequency is the second to last car) ...by far before 2011, after 5:45pm you be stranded in riverhead w/o connection to a SCT route that links you to a NICE (MTA Long Island Bus at the time) ....but if you head to port Jefferson there is a escaping route until 7pm...the s90 has its last run out of Riverhead at 5pm but only advances to center moriches...and that route is like the s62 route to port Jefferson it only benefit users of the area not users for it to leave the county and head to Nassau county and thus NYC the more economical way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac5689 Posted September 6, 2015 Share #4 Posted September 6, 2015 Yeah. The S58 was extended to Riverhead in about 2000. Before that it only went as far as Middle Island. It was extended in order to relieve the S62 of overcrowding due to people going to Riverhead. They just recently, like a month or two ago, extended the S58 so the last bus out of Riverhead is 6:45. Since I was raised in Port Jefferson, I know more about the history of those routes, so I'm not sure exactly when the S66 was extended to Riverhead. Though I was told that the reason it was, was in order to give riders going to Riverhead from Patchouge and elsewhere on it's route better service to Riverhead and so they didn't have to worry about transfering buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted September 6, 2015 Share #5 Posted September 6, 2015 Yeah. The S58 was extended to Riverhead in about 2000. Before that it only went as far as Middle Island. It was extended in order to relieve the S62 of overcrowding due to people going to Riverhead. They just recently, like a month or two ago, extended the S58 so the last bus out of Riverhead is 6:45. Since I was raised in Port Jefferson, I know more about the history of those routes, so I'm not sure exactly when the S66 was extended to Riverhead. Though I was told that the reason it was, was in order to give riders going to Riverhead from Patchouge and elsewhere on it's route better service to Riverhead and so they didn't have to worry about transfering buses. That make sense given how the S90 runs like a commuter route from Riverhead (and it runs like crap on top of it). It would be much cheaper to extend the S66 than improve the S90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrstone Posted September 8, 2015 Share #6 Posted September 8, 2015 I have been reading a lot minutes from Suffolk County DPW (including transit) lately and many people are requesting later (like 10pm) service on all SCT lines. SCT is taking it into consideration but to paraphrase from a recent meeting SCT is making no promises or 'yea' let's do this, nothing beyond taking it into consideration because saying anything else would be lying to the riders and those commenting. The biggest hurdle is obviously funding, SCT runs on what it has and gets a lot less funding from the government than NICE gets. A problem with extending just one line one run is that the drivers schedules are probably pretty set. The driver might already be working a full day and you cannot just tack an hour or two onto it... Next, This is a change that would probably need to be made the next time drivers have a pick as they would probably have to re arrange schedules to make it work. IF the county were going to extend the hours of all or most runs by 3-4 hours they could hire a bunch of drivers for 4-5 hour evening shifts... I think it would be exciting if the county could get funding to extend hours because it would help the economy. More people could go out to enjoy dinner, a movie, nightlife and more drivers would be employed, spending money locally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac5689 Posted September 8, 2015 Share #7 Posted September 8, 2015 A problem with extending just one line one run is that the drivers schedules are probably pretty set. The driver might already be working a full day and you cannot just tack an hour or two onto it... Next, This is a change that would probably need to be made the next time drivers have a pick as they would probably have to re arrange schedules to make it work. IF the county were going to extend the hours of all or most runs by 3-4 hours they could hire a bunch of drivers for 4-5 hour evening shifts... I think it would be exciting if the county could get funding to extend hours because it would help the economy. More people could go out to enjoy dinner, a movie, nightlife and more drivers would be employed, spending money locally. The company just reworks the schuduling and then hold a special pick before the change goes into effect. Or at least that's what once company has done in the past. I don't remember when but I remember because I was told that the special pick was held like a month or two before the regular schuduled pick. Diffrent companies are diffrent, some probably promote drivers from one divsion to another, or the need for more drivers could give a chance for a cover driver a chance to have a regular run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS4Ever Posted September 9, 2015 Author Share #8 Posted September 9, 2015 Well lets not forget (i totally forgot to the matter) that SCT has made many improvements including sunday service and a last run on the s58 and s66...also the majestic s92 runs its final route from Orient point at 6:40pm...a good time but only benefits users living in the hamptons and the north fork...lets go 5 years back and compare SCT to now...heck it has better buses and are very fast running expect that it drips water from the air vents a negative suggestion I believe that someday the last s66 Will leave riverhead at 7:50p...yet again it won't be to much benefit if the last n19 leaves Babylon at 9:30pn and not 10:30 or 10:45p...like burrstone said it willbenefit users heading to dinner nightclub or other night errands. ..but hey is the suburbs where legends say one must be sleeping at 9pmand wake up at 6am...being a city boyfrom new York im more accustomed to bus service to as late as 1am or even better 24 hour service...but hey one postman here said SCT is not to be confident one must always have at least 10 dollars if in case the bus route doesn't show up on time or it fails to make connection...thats why i for one don't reassures to take the last s58 bus to commack...simply because it reaches commack Macy's at 825pm the same timr the last s54 shows up...and lets say that s58 arrives commack at 8:35 heck i will totally be stranded. ..the s54 can wait for that s58 up to 8:30pn...if no show it leaves towards Walt Whitman mall. .. I for one think that the s54 does that 5 minute wait for that the S58 arrives for the connection. ..but hey there's something call i don't know intercommunication from one bus route to another or are those intercommunicators for useless use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted December 20, 2015 Share #9 Posted December 20, 2015 Thank youfor the heads up...i totally forgot that the s66 modified its route to benefit users heading and leaving Riverhead. ..not so long ago the s66 only advance to center moriches and not riverhead. ..by that time there was only two routes as escaping routes out of Riverhead and if the east end of long island. ..that are the s58 and the s62...at that time the last s58 route leaves Riverhead at 5:45pm (today that frequency is the second to last car) ...by far before 2011, after 5:45pm you be stranded in riverhead w/o connection to a SCT route that links you to a NICE (MTA Long Island Bus at the time) ....but if you head to port Jefferson there is a escaping route until 7pm...the s90 has its last run out of Riverhead at 5pm but only advances to center moriches...and that route is like the s62 route to port Jefferson it only benefit users of the area not users for it to leave the county and head to Nassau county and thus NYC the more economical way Remember that you don't have to ride the LIRR all the way out to NYC. A ticket from Port Jefferson to Hicksville is $5.50, and then you can catch the N22/24 from there. Well lets not forget (i totally forgot to the matter) that SCT has made many improvements including sunday service and a last run on the s58 and s66...also the majestic s92 runs its final route from Orient point at 6:40pm...a good time but only benefits users living in the hamptons and the north fork...lets go 5 years back and compare SCT to now...heck it has better buses and are very fast running expect that it drips water from the air vents a negative suggestion I believe that someday the last s66 Will leave riverhead at 7:50p...yet again it won't be to much benefit if the last n19 leaves Babylon at 9:30pn and not 10:30 or 10:45p...like burrstone said it willbenefit users heading to dinner nightclub or other night errands. ..but hey is the suburbs where legends say one must be sleeping at 9pmand wake up at 6am...being a city boyfrom new York im more accustomed to bus service to as late as 1am or even better 24 hour service...but hey one postman here said SCT is not to be confident one must always have at least 10 dollars if in case the bus route doesn't show up on time or it fails to make connection...thats why i for one don't reassures to take the last s58 bus to commack...simply because it reaches commack Macy's at 825pm the same timr the last s54 shows up...and lets say that s58 arrives commack at 8:35 heck i will totally be stranded. ..the s54 can wait for that s58 up to 8:30pn...if no show it leaves towards Walt Whitman mall. .. I for one think that the s54 does that 5 minute wait for that the S58 arrives for the connection. ..but hey there's something call i don't know intercommunication from one bus route to another or are those intercommunicators for useless use A ticket from Babylon to Freeport is $3. (And as a bonus, you can ride all the way to Rockville Centre and possibly catch an earlier N4 than the one you would've caught at Freeport) And even if the N19 was running, you'd still save yourself a lot of time for the extra $3. Aside from that, who is commuting all the way from Riverhead to NYC by SCT? Even if you make your connections, it's still two and a half hours just to get to Babylon, three and a half to get to Freeport, and four and a half to get to Jamaica. If you do that round-trip, that's literally a full workday worth of commuting. I agree with the idea that SCT should run later service, but not on the basis that people are using it as a cheaper alternative to the LIRR to commute to NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS4Ever Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share #10 Posted December 20, 2015 Oh yeah i forgot about port Jefferson Hicksville service. ..5.50 ain't that bad i mean 50 cent of more ...any bus leaving riverhead towards the west end of Suffolk have to make a connection transfer to the s54 or the s33 to access NICE buses...the s54/n79 is a $2.75 bus fare as well as the s33/n55 I would guess this thread to be obsolete since now with the truncation of the n19 to sunrise mall it is clearly impossible to. Have a s66 leave one hour later if NICE won't make a n72 leave at 10:30pm latest. I created this thread for the part of the 4:40pm making it to riverhead (and thus the escaping route) at 6:57pm...i remember that day i was so anxious since the s92 entered the roadway from the hamptons to riverhead at 6:35pm..,it reached the duck at 6:45pm...it was there thati knew i wwas going to be stranded (i only had at that point $2.50 for the last s66 and connecting s40 to Babylon) ...i reaching at 6:57pm said i hope the s66 got caught in traffic and make it at 7pm...only the s62 made the reach and left 7:00pm sharp Being confident I said the s66 has to make it since there were some people waiting for a bus (they were actually Hampton bound passes as they waited for the last s92 to east Hampton) ...i being the only person and the area being a ghost town and scary i went to the RR station Thank the lord I found out a last train was hearing to new York. ..well i told the conductor the problem and let me ride on the condition of paying back the MTA lirr money orden To must i found out of the LIRR loopholes shortly after...if i would've knew some facts i would've took the last s62 to port Jefferson and take the LIRR to Hicksville and from there the n22/24 I could advance to Rockville centre but is not to brag much about since the n4 is 24/7...the importance is the last units connection to either the n4 (As of 17 January 2016 scenarioo obsolete byfault of the ttruncation of the n19) or the n6... Next time i pass another scary moment must just take the s62 to port jeff. Also it is more tranquil up there than riverhead where it is more scary to be at night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted December 20, 2015 Share #11 Posted December 20, 2015 Having the final S66 at 7:50PM would allow people in areas like Mastic-Shirley and Patchogue to get home. (Not to mention all the areas along the S40 route), so it's not pointless. Like I said, it's not all about NYC, and as a matter of fact, the overwhelming majority of people leaving Riverhead aren't going to NYC. Plus, under ideal conditions, it would allow riders from the last S92 buses from either direction (East Hampton or Orient Point/Greenport) to connect to the S66 and have a route further west. What did you end up doing when you missed the last S66 and S62? You took the LIRR. So having the option of going to Patchogue or Babylon and taking the LIRR is better than not having the option, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS4Ever Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share #12 Posted December 20, 2015 It wasfor a project i had to do that day Like mentioned i in that moment I never knewthe LIRR paymentsaalso i had only at that moment $2.50 in cash plus a 1 ride pay per ride metrocard. ..i felt confident that by the s92 leavin . At 4:40p from east Hampton it would arrive accounting the hamptons super traffic about 6:15-6:20pm...or latest 6:40pm...as the driver handed me a ticket to expire at 7pm (probably the ticket operator of its bus slot was malfunctioning) i had no problem getting to the last s66 at 6:50pm ( no way i was going to take the last s58 to commack since at itsscheduled timing it is to arrive commack at 8:25 (the same time the LAST s54 to WW Mall arrives) not accounting the traffic on NYS25 ) I never realized that Sag Harbour the traffic up there is terrible it wasted 15 minutes in Sag plus an hour at the Hampton. Super traffic and theres the reason it made it 6:57pm..i wouldn'tmind if the s66 can ddepart at 7:00pm or 7:05pm latest 650pm is early...too early for a last run It benefits residens at much ease...but NICE is too. Stubborn to make. A 10:30pm n72 andthus connect with the last s40 I can agree that SCT would. Someday. Make these change . Come true but for NICE in a million yyears. ..they are too Stubborn. ..like the bee line...i mean why truncate the BL 12 from JV Mall to armon.k...tthat's a huge truncation. ..i mean have it extend to mount kisco (hence a transfer for BL 19) If a. 10:30Pm n72 leaves Babylon at the specific time it would aarrive at farmingdale. 11pm (right on time its scheduled run for Hempstead) and thus arrive Hempstead at 12:15am ( and transferfor thr n6 ) TThe main point is that it makes it to a 24 hour NICE bus (n4 or n6) Butlike a person once said one must always havemoney . For LIRR if for some. Reasonthe buses don't coordinated perfectly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted December 20, 2015 Share #13 Posted December 20, 2015 I don't understand why you're doing that just to connect to a 24 hour route. If that's the reason, then I would not do that. Furthermore, especially at that time, the amount of people doing that trip is very few, and most people take the LIRR anyways. I would only support an extra bus if enough riders would use it, but not for the sole purpose for whatever people are trying to get to Queens, if there are any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac5689 Posted December 20, 2015 Share #14 Posted December 20, 2015 I can agree that SCT would. Someday. Make these change . Putting to much faith in that there will be a someday. Suffolk would only do it if the funding was there. Seeing this climate of lack of state funding causing 6 million worth of changes in Fixed Transit and 4 million in SCAT changes, the only way I see more service would be if the riders fork over the money. Seeing as how only one of the last fare increases went to funding services, I find it hard that riders would support a new fare increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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