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    LIRR Assistant Conductor Trainee


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    #11 Supadupasai

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    Posted 21 March 2016 - 09:31 PM

    Well a friend of mines who works for LIRR said he was with some new Assitant Conductor Trainees today, thought someone in the forum got lucky. I really would have liked this position. Keep up the good fight everyone.
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    #12 bp98

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    Posted 31 March 2016 - 12:40 PM

    I'm going through the process now for AC.  Its pretty insane.


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    #13 Supadupasai

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    Posted 02 April 2016 - 08:26 PM

    I'm going through the process now for AC. Its pretty insane.



    Can you shed some light? Also, can you give a little feedback as to your background as to ascertain what they were looking for?
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    #14 bp98

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    Posted 03 April 2016 - 01:58 PM

    So I applied for this the beginning of last year (around February of 15') and wasn't contacted until the end of december.  Went to the open house and people from all walks of life were there.  There were a bunch of young people and a few in their late 30's early 40's.  I swear there was one guy who was well into his 50's and he was picked, but anyway...

     

    In order to get called, you need demonstrate the following IMO:

    1) Customer service experience, so if you were a greeter at wall mart for the last two years, then you're golden.

    2) Cash handling experience, preferably large transactions like a teller at a bank for example.

    3) Good study habits, usually through a college degree.  Yes its not required, but it helps your chances.

     

     

    As far as the tests are concerned at the open house, you can't study for them.  Either you have "it" or you don't.  If you have half a brain, you will pass, don't worry.  If you pass the exams, then you will have an interview with a transportation manager.  This is where they make sure that you were what they were looking for.  

     

    Example questions: 

    -Can you conform to DOT regulations?

    -Do you have good study habits?

    -Are you good with customers?  Explain.

    -How do you deal with pressure situations? Explain.

    -Any moving violations or tickets?  

     

    After that you have to wait for an email for the ridiculously extensive background check.  If you worked at some place for a week when you were 17 and only got one paycheck, but it was ON THE BOOKS, you need to report it because they will find out (and will ask for proof, aka a w-2 or a paystub).  If you fail to report ANYTHING, automatic disqualification.  This goes for any tickets, moving violations, arrests, etc.  

     

    So while they are investigating your background, you will get invited to the infamous S&D overview.  A person from the training department will host about 40 people and explain the signals and definitions and what you should do/need to do in order to pass.  Based on some posts on other websites, this has changed over the last couple of years.  Some saying that they got horn and whistle signals in addition to only 50 signals and definitions.  For me, i got all 75 definitions and all of the signals, no horn or whistle signals.  The test is 50 questions, a random combination of signals and definitions.  You need to know these WORD FOR WORD VERBATIM.  Miss a word?  Accidentally add a word to a definition ("the train" instead of just "train")? Accidentally pluralize a word ("trains" instead of "train")? WRONG!  

     

    You have 5 weeks from the date of the S&D overview to study.  You need to get a 100% on the names of the signals, and an 80% on the signal indications and definitions.  There were about 30 people who took the exam.  Of those only SIX, including myself passed.  After you pass, you take another panel interview with two transportation managers where they ask you situational questions.  "You're the conductor on train A and notice a bunch of rowdy, drunk passengers who haven't paid their fare yet.  what do you do?"  

     

    Keep in mind that most, if not all of the TM's were conductors at one point, so they wont go easy on you.  

     

    After this, you will get an additional packet of horn, whistle, and hand signals that you have to study for the academy.  Essentially whatever they omitted from the S&D test, they give you to study until you get called.

     

    Once you get called for training, you have to set up an appointment for the medical.

     

    This is where you have to be able to lift 50 lbs, walk on uneven surfaces, and step onto a simulated train.  I mention this because the initial step that you have to step up on is 3 and a half feet off the ground which might not seem high, but try it and you'll understand.  You have to step up and down this thing about 10 times.  

     

    ******Another thing: you'll have to sign a whole bunch of paperwork at the medical exam where they ask you "have you ever had" questions.  MAKE SURE YOU ANSWER TRUTHFULLY AND DON'T LEAVE OUT A THING!  If you had surgery on your ankle when you were 16 for a broken bone or tendon, TELL THEM!  One of the things that you have to sign is giving them the right to terminate you employment at ANY TIME (even after probation) if they find out that you had surgery, for example, and you didn't tell them.  As long as you can pass the PE exam, you will be fine.  

     

    Then after that you go to orientation and training which is what i'm up to currently.  Any other questions with the hiring process, feel free to ask.


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    #15 Supadupasai

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    Posted 05 April 2016 - 08:42 AM

    Oh ok I thought you were hired from the recent posting in 2016, that gives me a bit of fate then. Thanks for giving us some feed back on the selection process, and good luck with your training. @bp98
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    Posted 05 April 2016 - 08:34 PM

    Oh ok I thought you were hired from the recent posting in 2016, that gives me a bit of fate then. Thanks for giving us some feed back on the selection process, and good luck with your training. @bp98

    Thanks.  Its probably going to be at least a year for the 16' applicants.  From what I've heard, there's only two planned classes of 24 each going through this year.  One this month and one in may.  Your better off forgetting about it and focusing on your resume and study habits until they call you.  The washout rate is high, I mean, just think about how many people they have to go through just to get 24 trainees.  Chances are high if you have solid customer service experience, just keep applying.  It will happen!


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    Posted 09 April 2016 - 07:54 PM

    forgive me, my dates might be off a bit since this is off the top of my head:

     

    I applied on the 2/4/16 listing and got a response the next day on the 5th.  I went for the cognitive/math/vocab on the 17th, i think like 15 or so of the 40 people failed the cognitive, you could've bet on who they were before the names were called.  They said they get about 10k applications every time they post the job listing so to get in i guess is a big deal.  The math and vocab are a joke.  Not sure if anyone failed as i finished first and was interviewed first and then dismissed for the day.

     

    I then went back for the s&d overview on 3/2/16.  60 people showed, one guy showed up an hour and a half late.  Harmless day but they do try to overwhelm you with all the stuff you have to learn.  I haven't studied for anything since i graduated college 10 years ago.  My wife told me to just make all 204 flash cards....yes 204.  Then memorize 10 signals per day and then 5 definitions per day.  I was able to finish all 204 with 2 days to spare.  They give you a cd with practice tests on it.  The definition section on the practice test is full of wrong answers so beware if using it.

     

    I went back for the s&d test on 4/6/16, only 30 or so of the 60 showed up.  Everyone stresses over the whole verbatim thing and one guy actually ran out of the room when the test started.  However the guy today told us that if changing a plural like trains over train doesn't matter as long as it doesn't change the definition.  I kept messing up a few instruction/instructions definitions but none of them were on the test.  After you are done they hand you a handwriting assignment.  The first woman that day told us it is part of the exam but the actually instructor said it didn't matter, it was just to check your handwriting.  He seemed to be a bit more on the real side/logical side.  After that they tell you to come back at 1045.  When we all met back they called out 9 people to a room, kind surprised since i knew i passed and 9 didn't seem like enough that failed after hearing all the stories.  Low and behold only those 9 people failed.  21 passed this time around.  We were then given another packet to study (hand signals, horns/buzzers).  Then we had to wait for the panel interview and uniform fitting.  Panel interview was just awkward, basically asking you what is supposed to be common sense questions but really more about actual LIRR policies that you weren't trained on yet.  If you don't give the right answers they keep re-asking until you get it and they just go down a checklist.  I feel like i was terrible during this part but i know people that were worse on the interview and still got the job.  

     

    Long process but i felt the most nerve racking thing was making it to hillside at 8am from eastern LI since not westbound trains go to hillside during morning peak.  We are supposed to find out in 2-3 weeks if we are in the may class.  Ill update when i find something out.

     

    If anyone has any questions about the process or if i left something out just ask.


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    #18 bp98

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    Posted 10 April 2016 - 12:24 PM

    forgive me, my dates might be off a bit since this is off the top of my head:

     

    I applied on the 2/4/16 listing and got a response the next day on the 5th.  I went for the cognitive/math/vocab on the 17th, i think like 15 or so of the 40 people failed the cognitive, you could've bet on who they were before the names were called.  They said they get about 10k applications every time they post the job listing so to get in i guess is a big deal.  The math and vocab are a joke.  Not sure if anyone failed as i finished first and was interviewed first and then dismissed for the day.

     

    I then went back for the s&d overview on 3/2/16.  60 people showed, one guy showed up an hour and a half late.  Harmless day but they do try to overwhelm you with all the stuff you have to learn.  I haven't studied for anything since i graduated college 10 years ago.  My wife told me to just make all 204 flash cards....yes 204.  Then memorize 10 signals per day and then 5 definitions per day.  I was able to finish all 204 with 2 days to spare.  They give you a cd with practice tests on it.  The definition section on the practice test is full of wrong answers so beware if using it.

     

    I went back for the s&d test on 4/6/16, only 30 or so of the 60 showed up.  Everyone stresses over the whole verbatim thing and one guy actually ran out of the room when the test started.  However the guy today told us that if changing a plural like trains over train doesn't matter as long as it doesn't change the definition.  I kept messing up a few instruction/instructions definitions but none of them were on the test.  After you are done they hand you a handwriting assignment.  The first woman that day told us it is part of the exam but the actually instructor said it didn't matter, it was just to check your handwriting.  He seemed to be a bit more on the real side/logical side.  After that they tell you to come back at 1045.  When we all met back they called out 9 people to a room, kind surprised since i knew i passed and 9 didn't seem like enough that failed after hearing all the stories.  Low and behold only those 9 people failed.  21 passed this time around.  We were then given another packet to study (hand signals, horns/buzzers).  Then we had to wait for the panel interview and uniform fitting.  Panel interview was just awkward, basically asking you what is supposed to be common sense questions but really more about actual LIRR policies that you weren't trained on yet.  If you don't give the right answers they keep re-asking until you get it and they just go down a checklist.  I feel like i was terrible during this part but i know people that were worse on the interview and still got the job.  

     

    Long process but i felt the most nerve racking thing was making it to hillside at 8am from eastern LI since not westbound trains go to hillside during morning peak.  We are supposed to find out in 2-3 weeks if we are in the may class.  Ill update when i find something out.

     

    If anyone has any questions about the process or if i left something out just ask.

    That's awesome how you got called literally the next day.  Good Luck.


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    #19 cl0833

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    Posted 11 April 2016 - 06:37 PM

    thanks, you too.  I think they look for people that know someone, i know 3 mta employees so maybe that helped


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    #20 CGeorge

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    Posted 12 April 2016 - 04:31 PM

    a class of 17 is starting tomorrow


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