Javier Posted August 7, 2016 Share #1 Posted August 7, 2016 What I mean is, how does the get to have Lexington Avenue express on its strip maps, why can't it be Eastern Parkway Express (not saying it should lol)? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted August 7, 2016 Share #2 Posted August 7, 2016 I believe it's based on the lines route in CBD or in Manhattan Proper. The Subway was based on travel patterns to and from the outer boroughs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelestor Posted August 8, 2016 Share #3 Posted August 8, 2016 Presumably the lines are named after the section with the highest ridership: Broadway - 7 Ave, to distinguish from the other Broadway line Lexington Ave, where the line is most overcrowded Flushing, named after the terminus, also the busiest stop outside Manhattan 8 Ave 6 Ave Nassau St / Jamaica - named after both termini 14 Ave / Canarsie, named after the cross street and terminus Broadway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted August 8, 2016 Share #4 Posted August 8, 2016 Strictly speaking, when these lines were referred to in the days after the individual systems but before the 1979 color changed, it was generally only by the Manhattan portion. The was the "Fourteenth Street Line," the and the "7 Avenue Express," and the the "Broadway 7 Avenue Local" or "Local-Express." Distinctions were made for Bronx service patterns, like the "Lexington Ave Local" and "Lexington Ave Local Pelham Express" service. The emphasis was always on the Manhatttan portion, which is why sometimes ridiculous titling like the J/Z Nassau Street lines, when the vast majority of service was in Brooklyn/Queens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted August 9, 2016 Share #5 Posted August 9, 2016 Strictly speaking, when these lines were referred to in the days after the individual systems but before the 1979 color changed, it was generally only by the Manhattan portion. The was the "Fourteenth Street Line," the and the "7 Avenue Express," and the the "Broadway 7 Avenue Local" or "Local-Express." Distinctions were made for Bronx service patterns, like the "Lexington Ave Local" and "Lexington Ave Local Pelham Express" service. The emphasis was always on the Manhatttan portion, which is why sometimes ridiculous titling like the J/Z Nassau Street lines, when the vast majority of service was in Brooklyn/Queens. Jamaica would be a good designation for the and . It’s not like they can go anywhere else. The and basically own Broadway, and no other line can have the designation even though 3 different trunks run along Broadway: the and in Queens; the , , and in Brooklyn; the , , and in Manhattan. Even the , , , and run along Broadway during some portion of their route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstar1 Posted August 10, 2016 Share #6 Posted August 10, 2016 Especially above 42 St and into The Bronx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsooh86 Posted August 19, 2016 Share #7 Posted August 19, 2016 it is named after the streets they follow as they pass through midtown going north/south. the color codes indicate the lines except for the and which don't travel north/south in midtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junion Posted August 24, 2016 Share #8 Posted August 24, 2016 Lexington Ave, where the line is most overcrowded LOL! But seriously why isn't it called Park Ave., since it runs on Park in midtown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted August 24, 2016 Share #9 Posted August 24, 2016 LOL! But seriously why isn't it called Park Ave., since it runs on Park in midtown? Used to the Lexington-4th Ave line and was shortened. Park ave was once known as 4th Ave. guesss the history came from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted August 24, 2016 Share #10 Posted August 24, 2016 LOL! But seriously why isn't it called Park Ave., since it runs on Park in midtown? The trunk line is given its name based on the street/avenue it travels down the longest. The line in question travels down Lexington Ave from 125th Street to just north of Grand Central-42 St. In comparison, the Lexington Ave line runs under Park Ave between Grand Central and 14 St-Union Square before continuing under 4 Avenue South and Lafayette Ave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted August 24, 2016 Author Share #11 Posted August 24, 2016 So why is it different for the ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted August 24, 2016 Share #12 Posted August 24, 2016 So why is it different for the ? Would you call it the 42nd Street Line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted August 24, 2016 Share #13 Posted August 24, 2016 Would you call it the 42nd Street Line? Now it should be the 11 Avenue line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted August 25, 2016 Share #14 Posted August 25, 2016 Now it should be the 11 Avenue line. that is like calling the Nassau Street Line the Nassau Street Line as it is only on Nassau Street for one stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted August 25, 2016 Author Share #15 Posted August 25, 2016 Well it does run along Queens Boulevard in Queens at least from 33rd to 103rd St, and it is labeled 42 St LOCAL on the R 188's when it's running between Hunters Point and 34th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoBrickBreaker101 Posted August 25, 2016 Share #16 Posted August 25, 2016 Well it does run along Queens Boulevard in Queens at least from 33rd to 103rd St, and it is labeled 42 St LOCAL on the R 188's when it's running between Hunters Point and 34th. It runs on Roosevelt Avenue from that curve after 46th to it's last stop, so if anything, it should be the Roosevelt Avenue line. And 42nd Street Local works since it's only running from 34th to Hunters Point, and the majority of that section is run on 42nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted August 25, 2016 Share #17 Posted August 25, 2016 When the was rerouted to Bwy Jct. recently, the ones returning to Manhattan said "BWAY BKLYN LOCAL". When they first routed the up 6th Ave. they came up with "Jamaica Local", which was odd, but of course referred to the Marcy-Myrtle part, and I had thought why didn't they use "Bway-Bklyn" instead? So they went with "Myrtle Local" instead, which is the old BMT way of naming it after the branch line, even though that's not where the actual local-express service is. So now, we see they did use "Bway-Bklyn" for somethign after all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted August 25, 2016 Share #18 Posted August 25, 2016 I guess I was a bit too concise in my previous comment. In a general sense, the north-south IRT and IND lines are generally named for the primary road(s) the lines travel under/above. In other instances, the lines are named for the neighborhood or location of one end point/terminal. For instance, before it was extended to Main St in the late 1920s, the line we now know as the Flushing line was called the Corona Line as it ended in the eponymous neighborhood. The BMT routes fall mostly under this category with some of the names based on the original streetcar/railroad lines, especially the ones coming out of Coney Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted August 25, 2016 Share #19 Posted August 25, 2016 that is like calling the Nassau Street Line the Nassau Street Line as it is only on Nassau Street for one stop. Well, that part is the highlight of the line. Would you rather the dilapidated Canal Street or Chambers Street get that glory by calling it the Centre Street Line? *shudders* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted August 25, 2016 Share #20 Posted August 25, 2016 Well, that part is the highlight of the line. Would you rather the dilapidated Canal Street or Chambers Street get that glory by calling it the Centre Street Line? *shudders* Centre Street Loop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted August 25, 2016 Share #21 Posted August 25, 2016 Which station is actually on Nassau Street? Is it Fulton St or Broad St? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junion Posted August 25, 2016 Share #22 Posted August 25, 2016 Which station is actually on Nassau Street? Is it Fulton St or Broad St? Fulton st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted August 25, 2016 Share #23 Posted August 25, 2016 The trunk line is given its name based on the street/avenue it travels down the longest. The line in question travels down Lexington Ave from 125th Street to just north of Grand Central-42 St. In comparison, the Lexington Ave line runs under Park Ave between Grand Central and 14 St-Union Square before continuing under 4 Avenue South and Lafayette Ave.Actually, they are named for the streets they travel under below 59th Street. The Lex is an exception to that rule. Sent from my N9132 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted August 25, 2016 Share #24 Posted August 25, 2016 That may be, but there are only three lines that run above 59th Street, so I wouldn't really call it a rule, but rather just an observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted August 25, 2016 Author Share #25 Posted August 25, 2016 See now this is confusing. How do they name the shuttles then? If both the and run under the same street (42nd St) why is one called the 42nd St Shuttle and the other Flushing Local? Same thing with the Bowling Green Shuttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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