BM5 via Woodhaven Posted September 2, 2016 Share #1 Posted September 2, 2016 Here, I thought I describe the changes different than how the poster display them (since they apparently don't have them yet). I looked the bus schedules and picked out the most significant changes so you don't have to. Maybe your home line is mentioned below. Anyone, here's the lowdown for September 4, 2016: Bronx: Bx1/Bx2: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bronx/bx001cur.pdf - Southbound Limited Service starts at 5:52 AM instead of 6:18 AM - Service runs every 4-5 minutes during the AM rush instead of 10 minutes (Bx1 LTD) - Service runs every 10 minutes during midday instead of 12 minutes (Bx1 LTD) - Last Northbound Limited service now departs at 7:54 PM instead of 7:29 PM Bx12 Local: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bronx/bx012cur.pdf -Midday service every 12 minutes instead of 10 minutes Bx20: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bronx/bx020cur.pdf - First PM bus from Riverdale now leaves at 3:36 PM instead of 3:51 PM - First PM bus from Inwood now leaves at 3:09 PM instead of 3:24 PM Brooklyn: B9: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bkln/b009cur.pdf - Service runs every 4-5 minutes instead of 10 minutes during the AM rush (towards Kings Plaza) B12: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bkln/b012cur.pdf - Less frequent service from 4-5 AM - More frequent service from 5-6 AM - Midday service runs every 6 minutes instead of 8 minutes - Late evening service every 20 minutes instead of 15 minutes B37: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bkln/b037cur.pdf - From 6-7 AM northbound, service operates every 18 minutes instead of 20 minutes - Evening service now every 30 minutes instead of 20 minutes B46 Local: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bkln/b046cur.pdf - Buses which used to originate/terminate at Avenue H at or before 7:28 AM now do so at Avenue N X27/X37: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/xpress/x027cur.pdf - X27 and X37 no longer shares a schedule with the X28 and X38 - Less frequent AM service (X27 & X37) - 6:46 PM departure from 57 Street now originates at 23 Street at 7:05 PM (X27) - 6:56 PM departure from 57 Street now originates in Downtown Manhattan-Thomas Street at 7:34 PM (X27) - First PM evening X27 from Midtown now leaves at 7:08 PM instead of 6:48 PM - Service during the height of the PM rush leave 3 minutes earlier (X37) X28/X38: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/xpress/x028cur.pdf - X28 and X38 on their own schedule - Slightly more frequent AM service (X28) - First PM evening bus from Midtown leaves at 6:45 PM instead of 6:25 PM (X28) - Slightly less frequent PM evening service - Buses during the height of the PM rush leave 4 mintues earlier (X38) - New Weekend X28 service Manhattan: M1: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/manh/m001cur.pdf -First LIMITED bus from Harlem now departs at 6:43 AM instead of 6:59 AM M12: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/manh/m012cur.pdf - Service now runs every 20 minutes instead of 30 minutes northbound only from 1:15 PM to 2:15 PM - New Northbound Sunday service, with last bus at 10:19 PM instead of 7:19 PM from Jane Street M20: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/manh/m020cur.pdf - Service now every 20 minutes throughout the day on weekdays instead of pockets with 15 minute service Queens: Q2: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/queens/q002cur.pdf -2:35 PM relief bus from 179 Street discontinued Q3: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/queens/q003cur.pdf - Service between Jamaica and Merrick Blvd in the AM to JFK now every 12 minutes instead of 15 - Many short turns from Merrick Blvd to JFK discontinued - More AM service to Jamaica from JFK Q4: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/queens/q004cur.pdf - All Q4 Locals from 6:30 AM to 7:15 AM originate at Linden Blvd/F Lewis Blvd instead of Cambria Heights - Midday service every 8-9 minutes instead of 10 minutes - AM Limited service to Cambria Heights reinstated - Limiteds operate every 6 minutes in the PM instead of 10 minutes Q5: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/queens/q005cur.pdf - Last LIMITED from Jamaica now at 8:42 PM instead of 8:06 PM Q26: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/queens/q026cur.pdf Service from Fresh Meadows now starts at 3:00 PM instead of 3:53 PM Q70: New Schedule not released - Select Bus Service begins on September 4 - Buses will now stop in the bus terminal (towards LGA) at the current Q47 stand Q47: http://web.mta.info/busco/schedules/q047cur.pdf - Service rerouted onto 78 Street going southbound in Northern Jackson Heights - Buses to Terminal A will not stop at the current Q70 bus stop towards LaGuardia Airport at 74 Street Q58 LIMITED: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/queens/q058cur.pdf - Service every 5-7 minutes instead of 10-12 minutes before 7 AM - Service from 7-8 AM every 6 minutes instead of 10 minutes - Service from 8-9 AM every 12 minutes instead of 10 minutes - Service after 9 AM every 20 minutes instead of 15 minutes - 11:07 AM bus from Ridgewood discontinued, last bus now at 10:53 AM - 12:08 PM and 12:20 PM buses from Flushing discontinued, last bus now at 12:00 PM - First PM bus from Ridgewood now at 2:35 PM instead of 3:00 PM - Service every 7 minutes during the PM instead of 8 minutes Q58 Local: - Service every 4 minutes instead of 7 minutes from 5 AM to 6 AM - Service every 9 minutes instead of 8 minutes from 7 AM to 8 AM - Service every 5-6 minutes instead of 8-10 minutes during midday hours - More frequent service throughout PM rush and evening Q88: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/queens/q088cur.pdf - Eastbound AM buses run every 5 minutes instead of every 7 minutes - Midday buses run every 12 minutes instead of every 10 minutes until 1 PM - Midday buses from 1-3 PM run every 7-8 minutes instead of 10 minutes QM1/QM5/QM6/QM31/QM35/QM36: http://web.mta.info/busco/schedules/qm001cur.pdf - QM1, QM5, QM6 3 Avenue trips relabeled to QM31, QM35, and QM36 (respectively) - The current 8:55 AM QM5 3 Avenue trip will start operating as a QM35 via Fresh Meadows QM2/QM32: http://web.mta.info/busco/schedules/qm002cur.pdf - QM2 3 Avenue trips relabeled to QM32 QM10/QM40: http://web.mta.info/busco/schedules/qm010cur.pdf - QM10 3 Avenue trips relabeled to QM40 QM12/QM42: http://web.mta.info/busco/schedules/qm012cur.pdf -QM12 3 Avenue trips relabeled QM42 Staten Island: X10/X11: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/xpress/x010cur.pdf - The 6:33 AM trip to Midtown now leaves at 6:35 AM (X10B) - The 6:39 AM trip to Midtown is discontinued (X10B) - The 6:45 AM trip to Midtown now leaves at 6:43 AM (X10B) - The 6:57 AM and 7:03 AM trips to Midtown have been combined into a 7:00 AM trip (X10B) - The 3:35 PM and 3:45 PM trips to Port Richmond combined into a 3:40 PM trip (X10B) - Headway during the height of the AM rush now 15 minutes instead of 10 minutes (X11) X12/X42: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/xpress/x012cur.pdf - Headway during the height of the AM rush every 8 minutes instead of 6 minutes (X12) - The 6:35 AM and 6:45 AM trips to Midtown have been combined into a 6:40 AM trip (X42) - The 3:00 PM and 3:10 PM trips to Mariners Harbor have been combined into a 3:05 PM trip (X12) - The 4:22 PM departure from 23 Street now departs at 4:26 PM (X12) - The 4:55 PM and 5:05 PM trips to Mariners Harbor have been combined into a 5:00 PM trip X14: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/xpress/x014cur.pdf - PM service now runs every 12 minutes instead of every 10 minutes X15: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/xpress/x015cur.pdf - AM service reduced in the height of the rush - Late AM service now runs every 20-30 minutes instead of 10-20 minutes X17/X19: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/xpress/x017cur.pdf - The 4:25 and 4:45 AM trips to Midtown have been combined into a 4:35 AM trip (X17C) - Less frequent service before 5 AM (X17J) - PM service runs every 7-8 minutes instead of every 5-6 minutes during the height of the PM rush (X17A) - PM service now every 5 minutes instead of every 7 minutes during the height of the PM rush (X17J) - Service from 7 PM to 8 PM every 12 minutes instead of 15 minutes (X17C) X21: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/xpress/x021cur.pdf - Service during the height of the PM rush now every 20 minutes instead of 30 minutes X22/X22A: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/xpress/x022cur.pdf - 2:10 PM trip added to Tottenville - 2:20 PM trip now departs Midtown at 2:30 PM - Service from 4-5 PM now every 10 minutes instead of 8 minutes X31: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/xpress/x031cur.pdf -Slightly less frequent AM service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted September 2, 2016 Share #2 Posted September 2, 2016 The Q-70 LTD SBS begins Sept 2nd not the 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted September 2, 2016 Author Share #3 Posted September 2, 2016 The Q-70 LTD SBS begins Sept 2nd not the 4th. September 2nd is tomorrow. The MTA has not mentioned anything about the Q70 SBS, and LGA is not gonna start a special pick 2 days before the Fall pick is set to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted September 2, 2016 Share #4 Posted September 2, 2016 Of course, the 5 minute headways are east of 5 Avenue and Bay Ridge still has 10 minute headways Where are those buses actually starting? I doubt they actually start at 5 Avenue and 60th Street... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted September 2, 2016 Share #5 Posted September 2, 2016 Bronx: Bx20: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bronx/bx020cur.pdf - First PM bus from Riverdale now leaves at 3:36 PM instead of 3:51 PM - First PM bus from Inwood now leaves at 3:09 PM instead of 3:24 PM Brooklyn: B9: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bkln/b009cur.pdf - Service runs every 4-5 minutes instead of 10 minutes during the AM rush (towards Kings Plaza) Manhattan: M12: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/manh/m012cur.pdf - Service now runs every 20 minutes instead of 30 minutes northbound only from 1:15 PM to 2:15 PM - New Northbound Sunday service, with last bus at 10:19 PM instead of 7:19 PM from Jane Street Staten Island: X17/X19: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/xpress/x017cur.pdf - The 4:25 and 4:45 AM trips to Midtown have been combined into a 4:35 AM trip (X17C) - Less frequent service before 5 AM (X17J) - PM service runs every 7-8 minutes instead of every 5-6 minutes during the height of the PM rush (X17A) - PM service now every 5 minutes instead of every 7 minutes during the height of the PM rush (X17J) - Service from 7 PM to 8 PM every 12 minutes instead of 15 minutes (X17C) I think you reversed the Bx20 times. The first bus used to be earlier and now it's later (in other words, they cut a round-trip) The B9 schedule towards Kings Plaza looks approximately the same as it used to. I've seen those northbound M12s on BusTime. They were there, they just accidentally cut off the schedule 3 hours early. And there used to be 20 minute service heading southbound just after 11AM that was shifted to every 30 minutes. They also reduced the runtime (especially between Columbus Circle and 57th/11th). Buses used to just leave the terminal late in order to avoid arriving early to the following timepoint, so now they made it official. I'll give you another one: On the S94, they added one earlier trip and one later trip (in other words, you used to be able to catch ferries between 7:15AM and 8:30AM using the S94. Now you can catch ferries between 7:00AM and 8:45AM using the S94). On the midday S44 heading northbound, they basically widened the span of 12 minute service heading northbound (instead of 15 minutes) In the PM rush, they converted the 4PM S44 from St. George to an S94, and added a 10:01PM S94. For the S98, they shifted a trip so now you can catch the 6:40AM ferry with an S98, and they added an 8:10PM and 9:30PM S98 from St. George. They also added an 11:01PM short-turn on the S48. For the S42, AM service heading towards St. George is more frequent (actually, on both the S42 & S52). In exchange, they got rid of some of those double trips on weekend evenings (which weren't really needed, except for the fact that the full-length buses would sometimes arrive to the ferry late and run late on their return trip, so they were a good way of getting people out of the ferry on time) They added a 6PM S84 from St. George, and slightly more frequent service on the S78 towards St. George in the AM rush (and away from St. George in the PM rush) The X17J now runs more frequently, not less before 5AM. Basically, they added more X17J service at the expense of the X17C during that hour. And the biggest thing relating to the X17C on weekends.....they quietly removed the Brooklyn stop due to the fact that they brought back the X28 on weekends (which unfortunately means that the people who used to take it between Brooklyn and SI on weekends are SOL) Of course, the 5 minute headways are east of 5 Avenue and Bay Ridge still has 10 minute headways Where are those buses actually starting? I doubt they actually start at 5 Avenue and 60th Street... The B9 is based out of JG? In that case they just go down 5th Avenue and pull into that stop at 60th Street & 5th Avenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted September 2, 2016 Share #6 Posted September 2, 2016 B12: http://web.mta.info/...kln/b012cur.pdf - Less frequent service from 4-5 AM - More frequent service from 5-6 AM - Midday service runs every 6 minutes instead of 8 minutes - Late evening service every 20 minutes instead of 15 minutes I don't take the B12 to the LIRR in the morning everyday, but still, this directly affects me.... For the better. I can tell you all firsthand (and I believe I've stated as such in at least one post this year on here) that it is not uncommon to see buses around 5am heading towards Lefferts Gardens bunching, or very close to it (2-5 mins apart)..... Service is too frequent around that hour.... There are more buses needed closer to the 6am hour than the 5am hour... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
161 New York Posted September 2, 2016 Share #7 Posted September 2, 2016 And the biggest thing relating to the X17C on weekends.....they quietly removed the Brooklyn stop due to the fact that they brought back the X28 on weekends (which unfortunately means that the people who used to take it between Brooklyn and SI on weekends are SOL) This [would appear to be] incorrect. It is specifically mentioned on page 4 of the bus schedule, effective as of September 4, 2016 that the x17c stops in Bay Ridge on weekends. There is no mention of discontinuing the stop in any news outlet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoBrickBreaker101 Posted September 2, 2016 Share #8 Posted September 2, 2016 Isn't the M5 / M55 split also supposed to happen this pick as well? Isn't the M5 / M55 split also supposed to happen this pick as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted September 2, 2016 Share #9 Posted September 2, 2016 Isn't the M5 / M55 split also supposed to happen this pick as well? Isn't the M5 / M55 split also supposed to happen this pick as well? No the M5/55 plan is supposed to be effective January 2017, when the winter pick starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted September 2, 2016 Share #10 Posted September 2, 2016 This [would appear to be] incorrect. It is specifically mentioned on page 4 of the bus schedule, effective as of September 4, 2016 that the x17c stops in Bay Ridge on weekends. There is no mention of discontinuing the stop in any news outlet. This may be because the X28 weekend service is on a six month trial period. It makes sense to keep the X17 stop for now in Brooklyn. The noted that it received numerous requests to restore the X28 over the years (including the petitions started by local leaders along with myself) and now we have to use the service to show the that we need it and will use it. The X27 has done fine on weekends, as I have used that on Saturdays and Sundays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted September 2, 2016 Share #11 Posted September 2, 2016 Thank goodness with the X22 they for once did exactly what I wanted them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted September 2, 2016 Share #12 Posted September 2, 2016 This may be because the X28 weekend service is on a six month trial period. It makes sense to keep the X17 stop for now in Brooklyn. The noted that it received numerous requests to restore the X28 over the years (including the petitions started by local leaders along with myself) and now we have to use the service to show the that we need it and will use it. The X27 has done fine on weekends, as I have used that on Saturdays and Sundays. I find it interesting that the route is only scheduled to use 3 buses, you'd think they'd need 4 like most Queens buses do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted September 2, 2016 Share #13 Posted September 2, 2016 I find it interesting that the route is only scheduled to use 3 buses, you'd think they'd need 4 like most Queens buses do. Well you also have buses that come directly from the depot or that deadhead from elsewhere. When I get the X27 deep along Shore Rd (i.e. the first stop), they sometimes will deadhead and come from the Belt Parkway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted September 2, 2016 Share #14 Posted September 2, 2016 Well you also have buses that come directly from the depot or that deadhead from elsewhere. When I get the X27 deep along Shore Rd (i.e. the first stop), they sometimes will deadhead and come from the Belt Parkway. every X27 I've ever gotten DH from the Highway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted September 2, 2016 Share #15 Posted September 2, 2016 every X27 I've ever gotten DH from the HighwayThat's because the designated run-on/run-off route for the line is the Belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted September 2, 2016 Share #16 Posted September 2, 2016 That's because the designated run-on/run-off route for the line is the Belt That doesn't make sense given that Southbound the line departs from Shore Rd precisely to do the turnaround. Those buses could simply come down 4th Avenue and turn onto Shore Rd, which I have also seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted September 2, 2016 Share #17 Posted September 2, 2016 That doesn't make sense given that Southbound the line departs from Shore Rd precisely to do the turnaround. Those buses could simply come down 4th Avenue and turn onto Shore Rd, which I have also seen. Turtle is correct. Whenever I walk on that pathway alongside the Belt, I always see at least one X27 deadheading and maybe a BM or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted September 2, 2016 Share #18 Posted September 2, 2016 Turtle is correct. Whenever I walk on that pathway alongside the Belt, I always see at least one X27 deadheading and maybe a BM or two. I don't doubt that he isn't as I've seen it as well while waiting for it on Shore Rd and 4th at that first stop. Just doesn't sense for them to do that given how the route is set up. Why not just come down 4th Avenue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted September 2, 2016 Share #19 Posted September 2, 2016 This [would appear to be] incorrect. It is specifically mentioned on page 4 of the bus schedule, effective as of September 4, 2016 that the x17c stops in Bay Ridge on weekends. There is no mention of discontinuing the stop in any news outlet. OK, I was looking at the map on page 12, and didn't see a physical diversion to denote the extra stop in Brooklyn, so I assumed they discontinued the diversion. (Looking closer, I see there's a text box on page 12 that indicates that it stops in Brooklyn on weekends) I guess good news then lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassTransitHonchkrow Posted September 2, 2016 Share #20 Posted September 2, 2016 Very helpful @BM5 via WOODHAVEN BL. This will certainly help me as I begin inroads into LIC... Sent from my m8 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted September 2, 2016 Share #21 Posted September 2, 2016 I don't doubt that he isn't as I've seen it as well while waiting for it on Shore Rd and 4th at that first stop. Just doesn't sense for them to do that given how the route is set up. Why not just come down 4th Avenue? It's faster to go on the Belt than via 4th. You also hit more traffic on 4th Avenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted September 2, 2016 Share #22 Posted September 2, 2016 It's faster to go on the Belt than via 4th. You also hit more traffic on 4th Avenue. I'm rather surprised given how far south that is on 4th Avenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted September 2, 2016 Share #23 Posted September 2, 2016 That doesn't make sense given that Southbound the line departs from Shore Rd precisely to do the turnaround. Those buses could simply come down 4th Avenue and turn onto Shore Rd, which I have also seen.They come down the Belt and get off at the 4 Av exit, and use the side streets to loop around to get to the first stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted September 3, 2016 Author Share #24 Posted September 3, 2016 Some more service changes which were not mentioned originally: Route Changes: B6/B84: http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/planned_servChanges_B6B84.htm Q65: http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/planned_servChanges_Q65.htm B26/Q55: http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/planned_servChanges_B26_Q55.htm Q34: http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/planned_servChanges_Q34.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted September 4, 2016 Share #25 Posted September 4, 2016 The new QM1 schedule is even more confusing than it used to be! I assumed the purpose of the creating the 31 was to make a totally separate schedule for third ave buses, like they did with the QM7/8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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