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    #1 R10 2952

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    Posted 15 November 2016 - 09:39 AM

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    Some members of the MTA board are once again advocating for subway

    platform doors.

    In the past, the MTA has talked of launching a pilot program to test platform

    doors, but the agency has never followed through.

    Board members we spoke to say platform doors, while costly, would protect

    subway riders and help ease overcrowding.

    "Those platform doors, which are in use in London, in use in Paris and in use

    in many other cities, & which have had the effect, the direct effect, of limiting overcrowding," said board member Charles Moerdler.

     

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    #2 pringle5095

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    Posted 15 November 2016 - 09:49 AM

    I see the platform doors as more of a safety measure than an anti crowd measure because the doors could prevent people from falling onto the traCks at all.


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    #3 P3F

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    Posted 15 November 2016 - 11:05 AM

    If stations like Brooklyn Bridge and 14 Street are overcrowded, they have the options of

    a) reopening the side platforms

    and

    b) reopening Worth and/or 18th Streets.

    Both of which would be better long-term investments than platform screen doors.
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    Posted 15 November 2016 - 11:09 AM

    They should be working on things like better on-time performance.  If I had a nickel for every time the (1) (2) (3) or (4) (5) (6) was delayed....  <_< Seems like every other day either or both of the aforementioned lines have some sort of signal problem, and thus you'll see (5) trains running via the 7th Avenue line.  Invest that money into maintaining the infrastructure.  I don't want my taxpayer dollars going toward this nonsense.  The platforms are overcrowded because they aren't providing enough damn trains.

     

    During the rush you have to let several trains pass before you can get on and ride like a human being, otherwise, be prepared to be smashed in like a sardine can.  I simply refuse to ride like some savage.  It's ridiculous that it can take up to 30 minutes to go three three express stops.  


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    Posted 15 November 2016 - 11:39 AM

    They should be working on things like better on-time performance.  If I had a nickel for every time the (1) (2) (3) or (4) (5) (6) was delayed....  <_< Seems like every other day either or both of the aforementioned lines have some sort of signal problem, and thus you'll see (5) trains running via the 7th Avenue line.  Invest that money into maintaining the infrastructure.  I don't want my taxpayer dollars going toward this nonsense.  The platforms are overcrowded because they aren't provided enough damn trains.

     

    During the rush you have to let several trains pass before you can get on and ride like a human being, otherwise, be prepared to be smashed in like a sardine can.  I simply refuse to ride like some savage.  It's ridiculous that it can take up to 30 minutes to go three three express stops.  

    You know the ole saying VG8...There either isn't enough cars or the line is already at max.. :D


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    Posted 15 November 2016 - 11:41 AM

    They should be working on things like better on-time performance.  If I had a nickel for every time the (1) (2) (3) or (4) (5) (6) was delayed....  <_< Seems like every other day either or both of the aforementioned lines have some sort of signal problem, and thus you'll see (5) trains running via the 7th Avenue line.  

     

    CBTC with a backup signal system would fix that, but no the (7) needs it first... <_< 


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    #7 Via Garibaldi 8

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    Posted 15 November 2016 - 12:03 PM

    CBTC with a backup signal system would fix that, but no the (7) needs it first... <_< 

    The (7) to a certain degree does need it, but the crowding on the (7) could be alleviated if they marketed the LIRR more and the express buses.  The (MTA) created the (7) problem and on top of that, the neighborhoods served by the (7) have been yelling to no end.  If they yelled like that about the alternatives available to some communities, who knows what they would've received by now.

     

    You know the ole saying VG8...There either isn't enough cars or the line is already at max.. :D

    Well it seems like during the rush they just can't keep up with the demand, and the situation is worsening every year.  I try to avoid using the subways where possible and opt for Metro-North when traveling within the city, but some of my trips involve going to the Upper East or Upper West Side where the subway is the only real option. I could take the (B) in some cases, but that line too has ridiculous waits during the rush.  It used to be that people would pass up the (B) for the (D) but now people take anything that comes because you don't know when the next one will come even though there's supposed to be one every 10 minutes (roughly).  Waiting almost 20 minutes during rush hour for one train is just insane.  I'll never understand how you can see 5 or 6 (F) trains before one (B) or (D) train comes.  


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    Posted 15 November 2016 - 12:30 PM

    The (7) to a certain degree does need it, but the crowding on the (7) could be alleviated if they marketed the LIRR more and the express buses.  The (MTA) created the (7) problem and on top of that, the neighborhoods served by the (7) have been yelling to no end.  If they yelled like that about the alternatives available to some communities, who knows what they would've received by now.

     

    Well it seems like during the rush they just can't keep up with the demand, and the situation is worsening every year.  I try to avoid using the subways where possible and opt for Metro-North when traveling within the city, but some of my trips involve going to the Upper East or Upper West Side where the subway is the only real option. I could take the (B) in some cases, but that line too has ridiculous waits during the rush.  It used to be that people would pass up the (B) for the (D) but now people take anything that comes because you don't know when the next one will come even though there's supposed to be one every 10 minutes (roughly).  Waiting almost 20 minutes during rush hour for one train is just insane.  I'll never understand how you can see 5 or 6 (F) trains before one (B) or (D) train comes.  

    I know what you mean....Same with 8av...You get like 4  (E) 's before a  (A)  ©


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    Posted 15 November 2016 - 12:43 PM

    I know what you mean....Same with 8av...You get like 4  (E) 's before a  (A)  ©

    It seems like the more the focus on safety, the worse service becomes.  I personally don't think the (MTA) cares (about safety or reliability).  They're just obsessed with liability, so they're looking to mitigate risk more than anything else.


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    Posted 15 November 2016 - 12:50 PM

      They're just obsessed with liability, so they're looking to mitigate risk more than anything else.

     

    Well, that explains the arcane timers and fumigation rules that slow down service...


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