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    M5/M55 Split January 8, 2017

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    #1 Union Tpke

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    Posted 16 December 2016 - 07:24 AM

    Planned Service Changes
    M5
    M55

     
    Effective Sunday, January 8, 2017


    Changes to M5 route and new M55 route

    In an effort to alleviate delays and improve reliability, the M5 is being split into two separate, shorter routes, operating with the new M55 as follows: 

    • The M5 will continue to operate between the George Washington Bridge Bus Terminal at 
      W 178 St/Broadway and its new Midtown terminal at W 31 St/6 Av.  
       
    • The M55 will serve the portion of the former M5 route between W 44 St/6 Av and the South Ferry Terminal.  
       
    • Transfer between both routes at any stop between W 31 St and W 44 St along 5 and 6 Avs. 
    The M5 will continue to operate limited-stop service during daytime hours, and operate local service during nights only. The M55 will operate local service at all times.
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    Long live R32s!

     

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    #2 DaTransitMan4608

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    Posted 16 December 2016 - 09:20 AM

    Is Quill gonna do the M55 or is MHV gonna do it?


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    I'm either gonna meet my future wife at school, at work, or while I'm fanning. That last one is gonna be a little tough to explain. 


    #3 S78 via Hylan

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    Posted 16 December 2016 - 09:28 AM

    Is Quill gonna do the M55 or is MHV gonna do it?


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    Most likely Quill. It would make no sense for MV to cover it.
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    #4 Via Garibaldi 8

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    Posted 16 December 2016 - 10:46 AM

    May be a little too little too late.... The M5 has been such a mess for the past several years, that I would imagine it losing a TON of ridership.  I also think it's stupid to have one portion of the line be limited stop and the other be local.  Heaven forbid folks want to use the bus to get Downtown over the subway...


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    #5 beelinefan

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    Posted 16 December 2016 - 12:44 PM

    Wonder if the m20 and m55 will interline out of south ferry during the hours that the m20 runs.


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    #6 Cait Sith

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    Posted 16 December 2016 - 01:42 PM

    May be a little too little too late.... The M5 has been such a mess for the past several years, that I would imagine it losing a TON of ridership.  I also think it's stupid to have one portion of the line be limited stop and the other be local.  Heaven forbid folks want to use the bus to get Downtown over the subway...

     

    There's no point in having it Limited South of 8th Street, since it goes local anyway. It would be limited just for a small number of stops, which is a waste.


    Edited by Cait Sith, 16 December 2016 - 01:44 PM.

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    #7 bstar1

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    Posted 16 December 2016 - 01:44 PM

    M55 would be like M6 right?
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    #8 Cait Sith

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    Posted 16 December 2016 - 01:46 PM

    M55 would be like M6 right?

     

    To some extent, yes and no, it wouldn't run on 7th Avenue/23rd Street/Park Avenue South.


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    #9 Via Garibaldi 8

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    Posted 16 December 2016 - 01:49 PM

    There's no point in having it Limited South of 8th Street, since it goes local anyway. It would be limited just for a small number of stops.

    I'm aware of that.  My point was that they should try running limited stop service to South Ferry.  This M55 is similar to the M6 though this obviously starts further south long with a few other differences.  The only service that provides any limited stop service below 8th street is the M15SBS.  Granted it serves areas away from the subway but still.  I predict that the headways will run like crap because the (MTA) doesn't really want to run the service and this will just force more people to the subway.  It's too slow and makes too many stops.  Most of those M5 buses that you see Downtown are empty outside of rush hour.


    Edited by Via Garibaldi 8, 16 December 2016 - 01:50 PM.

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    #10 Cait Sith

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    Posted 16 December 2016 - 01:57 PM

    I'm aware of that.  My point was that they should try running limited stop service to South Ferry.  This M55 is similar to the M6 though this obviously starts further south long with a few other differences.  The only service that provides any limited stop service below 8th street is the M15SBS.  Granted it serves areas away from the subway but still.  I predict that the headways will run like crap because the (MTA) doesn't really want to run the service and this will just force more people to the subway.  It's too slow and makes too many stops.  Most of those M5 buses that you see Downtown are empty outside of rush hour.

     

    The problem with Limited service on the Downtown portion is that most of those stops Downtown actually pick up during the rush hour. You tend to get a sizeable amount to/from South Ferry at times. A part-time Limited would be hit-or-miss. The M1 would have to be extended to cover those stops lost. Making a Limited variant in that part of Downtown would make people just take the subway because of the lack of stops in-between certain segments.


    Edited by Cait Sith, 16 December 2016 - 01:58 PM.

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