checkmatechamp13 Posted June 3, 2017 Share #126 Posted June 3, 2017 just because every line is crowded during rush hours doesn't necessarily mean they are often irregular. like I said, it's part of life that trains are crowded during rush hours. And SAS is only 3 stops which makes no difference in crowding on the Lex because of the Bronx. You can in theory max out capacity on the line between 57th Street and 96th Street and total ridership will still remain fairly crowded. No one should expect a much less crowded train during rush hours at all, ever He's not saying it's irregular because it's crowded. He's saying it's irregular (i.e. The headways are longer than scheduled, followed by train bunching) and it's also busy and crowded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted June 3, 2017 Share #127 Posted June 3, 2017 He's not saying it's irregular because it's crowded. He's saying it's irregular (i.e. The headways are longer than scheduled, followed by train bunching) and it's also busy and crowded. Thank you. That is what i mean. just because every line is crowded during rush hours doesn't necessarily mean they are often irregular. like I said, it's part of life that trains are crowded during rush hours. And SAS is only 3 stops which makes no difference in crowding on the Lex because of the Bronx. You can in theory max out capacity on the line between 57th Street and 96th Street and total ridership will still remain fairly crowded. No one should expect a much less crowded train during rush hours at all, ever Oh come on. I'm not that dumb. The point here is that trains are too crowded on SAS and it's messing up the scheduling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted June 3, 2017 Share #128 Posted June 3, 2017 That's one of the reasons some scheduled runs are Via Sea Beach Not true. Those Runs via Sea Beach are Train crews signed up as Trains to 96th Street since there's no Program to 96th Street. Those used to be the Trains that got turned at 57th Street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco Posted June 7, 2017 Share #129 Posted June 7, 2017 Thank you. That is what i mean. Oh come on. I'm not that dumb. The point here is that trains are too crowded on SAS and it's messing up the scheduling. It's noticeable even on the South Brooklyn end of the line, where I've seen no southbound trains come for 15 minutes and then two or three come back-to-back. It's a rare commute into Manhattan where I don't see at least one case of bunching as a result of delays from SAS trickling down the rest of the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted June 7, 2017 Share #130 Posted June 7, 2017 It's noticeable even on the South Brooklyn end of the line, where I've seen no southbound trains come for 15 minutes and then two or three come back-to-back. It's a rare commute into Manhattan where I don't see at least one case of bunching as a result of delays from SAS trickling down the rest of the line.You're blaming the bunching on SAS huh? Well about the bunching that occurred before that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstar1 Posted June 7, 2017 Share #131 Posted June 7, 2017 gets in the way of causing delays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted June 7, 2017 Share #132 Posted June 7, 2017 You're blaming the bunching on SAS huh? Well about the bunching that occurred before that? Manhattan in general. SAS has just exacerbated that, particularly weekends. When I would use 8 Street on the regularly, the used to pass by like clockwork pre-SAS. Now there are very noticeable gaps and bunching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco Posted June 7, 2017 Share #133 Posted June 7, 2017 Bunching was always a problem before 2016 because of the going to Astoria on weekdays. Now it is consistently a problem in part due to SAS, especially on weekends. That along with construction has made the very irregular on weekends, as Around the Horn mentioned. The crowding causes and trains to arrive at Prince St at the same time when they're not supposed to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelestor Posted June 7, 2017 Share #134 Posted June 7, 2017 Bunching was always a problem before 2016 because of the going to Astoria on weekdays. Now it is consistently a problem in part due to SAS, especially on weekends. That along with construction has made the very irregular on weekends, as Around the Horn mentioned. The crowding causes and trains to arrive at Prince St at the same time when they're not supposed to. The and also have different headways, so the trains are going to eventually bunch at Canal St. From what I've seen, I think the ridership warrants 8 minute headways on weekends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted June 7, 2017 Share #135 Posted June 7, 2017 It's not SAS alone that causes bunching on the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted June 8, 2017 Share #136 Posted June 8, 2017 The problem here is that current is clearly having problems handling everyone on the line. The coming in to Lex-63rd during rush hour is packed the way the used to be... At least it's B division spec, how much more passengers can B division trains hold than A division? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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