Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 20, 2017 Share #1 Posted July 20, 2017 More Transit Problems Pile Up, and They Have Nothing to Do with Penn Station LIRR, Metro-North, NJ Transit and the subways all experienced problems this week WHAT TO KNOW -Signal problems caused delays for subway riders Thursday morning, and PATH had signal issues as well -It was the fourth morning in a row of widespread disruptions to multiple transit systems around the region -Most of the rail disruptions this month were unrelated to the repair work at New York Penn Station It turns out that Penn Station is the least of commuters' problems in this transit Summer of Hell. Thursday brought suspensions and delays on the PATH and Newark AirTrain, more cancellations on NJ Transit due to manpower issues, ticketing problems and a rash of subway delays due to sick customers and signal failures. After earlier delays, PATH service was suspended around 11:15 a.m. between World Trade Center and Newark in both directions because of a signal problem, authorities said. Service had resumed, again with delays, after an hour. It was the fourth day in a row that the region's transit system saw widespread problems, though none of them had anything to do with the long-feared rehab work at New York Penn. NJ Transit's MyTix app, which lets people pay their fares on their phones, went down Thursday morning. The rail service urged people to tell their conductors the app was down, but social media was still full of outraged customers who were forced to pay a penalty cash fare nonetheless. In Newark, 70 people were pulled off an AirTrain after power issues. There were no injuries, but service was suspended and passengers had to take buses instead. The airport tweeted service had been partially restored shortly after 11 a.m., but said customers should use buses "until we are fully operational." In Manhattan the B and C subway lines had delays due to signal problems at 81st Street, while in Queens a sick customer at Kew Gardens caused problems on the F line. NJ Transit cancelled one train early Thursday due to an engineer shortage; that same issue caused nearly 30 cancellations the last three days. 'EVERYBODY'S SWEATING, CAN'T BREATHE' Thursday morning's rush-hour delays followed a rash of problems during Wednesday night's commute home. In both cases a heat wave only made the misery that much worse -- one subway rider waiting for the train in Queens even fell onto the tracks after he was overcome by heat. He's expected to be OK. Straphangers were confronted with signal and power problems on six lines in Manhattan and Brooklyn on Wednesday evening as Metro-North riders were stuck on a disabled train. In Manhattan, signal problems at 72nd Street caused service changes for 2 and 3 trains. Regular service resumed by 5:15 p.m. In Brooklyn, loss of Con Edison power caused signal problems at 59th Street, leading to service changes to D, N and R trains. Regular service resumed by 5:20 p.m. Photos posted to Twitter at the start of the evening rush showed packed crowds at the Barclays Center subway station, which serves the D, N and R lines. Some commuters told News 4 New York that they had to wait for N and R trains at the 59th Street station in Manhattan for more than an hour and a half. Danny Sierra said he had to get off a train and go upstairs to get some fresh air. "It was like an hour wait on the train, it's crazy," Sierra said. "Everybody's sweating, can't breathe, got a diabetic, got all type of people on the train. There's something wrong with the MTA." Meanwhile, Hudson Line commuters were stuck on a Metro-North train for nearly 90 minutes shortly before 4 p.m. after the train they were on became disabled at 101st Street. Metro-North spokesman Aaron Donovan said it's unclear why the train was unable to receive power. The train was towed to 125th Street, where the passengers disembarked shortly after 5 p.m. Donovan said lights and air conditioning were on in the train the entire time. MORNING SNARLED TOO Earlier on Wednesday, more sporadic disruptions struck NJ Transit and the Long Island Rail Road, the third straight day of problems moving commuters around the region. NJ Transit cancelled at least 19 buses Wednesday morning due to what it described on its bus Twitter feed as an "operational issue," which a spokeswoman explained was the reallocation of buses to accommodate new summer schedules. NJT also suspended the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail between 2nd Street and Port Imperial Wednesday due to a reported chemical leak in Hoboken. The multibillion-dollar line is a key artery bringing New Jersey commuters to and from Hoboken. Service was restored after about 70 minutes. Separate from all of those issues, a mechanical problem forced the cancellation of a rush-hour train out of Newark Penn Station Wednesday morning. But it wasn't just New Jersey; the LIRR continued to have its own difficulties early Wednesday. At least three trains were late due to single tracking, mechanical issues or late-arriving connections, and a fourth was cancelled. That followed Tuesday's twin crises; in the morning an empty train derailed and shut down Long Beach branch service, and in the evening, signal problems near Jamaica snarled rush hour. Source: More Transit Problems Pile Up, and They Have Nothing to Do with Penn Station | NBC New York http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/More-Transit-Problems-Pile-Up-Wednesday-and-They-Have-Nothing-to-Do-with-Penn-Station-435366683.html#ixzz4nPppvOOw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadcorder Posted July 21, 2017 Share #2 Posted July 21, 2017 Look, your thread spamming is becoming highly irritating. There is literally a thread named "Unplanned Subway Service Changes" pinned to the top for discussion of just this topic. I'm a pretty new user, but you're driving me away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted July 21, 2017 Share #3 Posted July 21, 2017 In this case,a day like this should be in its own thread separate from the unplanned changes because of how severe the issue is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 21, 2017 Author Share #4 Posted July 21, 2017 In this case,a day like this should be in its own thread separate from the unplanned changes because of how severe the issue is. Quite frankly, the unplanned service changes are mainly from the website. I also say this... The people that complain never start new threads, so if no one starts any, we'll be discussing the same topics or nothing at all. I welcome other people starting new topics. I post issues that appear to be relevant in the media and that should get discussion. I'm going to refrain from posting these topics going forward and we can pretend that the issue, which is a regional problem at this point doesn't exist. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted July 21, 2017 Share #5 Posted July 21, 2017 Oh do calm down with the dramatics. Nobody here is pretending the issues don't exist. Looking at the first page of this section, you are the thread-starter for five delay-related news articles. While I don't really care either way what's posted here as long as it remains within the rules of this forum, it does get repetitive to read the same thing ad nauseum. The issue isn't a lack of exposure to the issues at hand. As a transit forum, we are all well aware of the problems plaguing the regional transit network. The problem is that our elected officials need to pull their heads out of the collective asses and actually do something to stop the downward spiral. Without that change, transit around here will remain the same if not get worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 21, 2017 Author Share #6 Posted July 21, 2017 Oh do calm down with the dramatics. Nobody here is pretending the issues don't exist. Looking at the first page of this section, you are the thread-starter for five delay-related news articles. While I don't really care either way what's posted here as long as it remains within the rules of this forum, it does get repetitive to read the same thing ad nauseum. The issue isn't a lack of exposure to the issues at hand. As a transit forum, we are all well aware of the problems plaguing the regional transit network. The problem is that our elected officials need to pull their heads out of the collective asses and actually do something to stop the downward spiral. Without that change, transit around here will remain the same if not get worse. There's no dramatics at all. I am perfectly fine not posting any new topics, and the people complaining, yourself included can then post new threads. That's my point. Nobody is posting any new threads of substance, so it is what it is. I want to be clear in saying I am not in any way upset. I would think people passing out onto the tracks from heat exhaustion because of severe delays would be things to discuss or at least be aware of. I am simply saying go out and post something since you have such a problem with what I'm posting. I haven't seen one new thread from anyone complaining... Not one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted July 21, 2017 Share #7 Posted July 21, 2017 Nobody is posting any new threads of substance, so it is what it is. Who are you to say that? I don't come to NYCTF to hear misinformed bitching and whining about the subway. There are plenty of tabloids with their confused commenters for that. I come for an enthusiast and insider perspective on the system. I'd rather discuss rolling stock than some guy's sob story about sweating. I think many of us feel that way. If you'll notice, the few TA employees on the site have been all but driven away by stuff like this, as the eight thousandth thread complaining about delays (more often than not caused by customers) is not exactly an enticing reason to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 21, 2017 Author Share #8 Posted July 21, 2017 Who are you to say that? I don't come to NYCTF to hear misinformed bitching and whining about the subway. There are plenty of tabloids with their confused commenters for that. I come for an enthusiast and insider perspective on the system. I'd rather discuss rolling stock than some guy's sob story about sweating. I think many of us feel that way. If you'll notice, the few TA employees on the site have been all but driven away by stuff like this, as the eight thousandth thread complaining about delays (more often than not caused by customers) is not exactly an enticing reason to stay. Oh really? I can't remember when you've ever posted one thread... Ever... That's my point. You come here for "a enthusiast and insider perspective on the system", so where are the threads you've posted on such topics to lead the direction of discussion that way? You sit back and complain about what threads I start but don't start any. Interesting. Not only that, but you're insensitive to other humans, which isn't exactly shocking. In any event, I'm waiting with baited breath to see what new threads you start so I can experience this perspective you brought up. Probably will be a cold day in hell before you start any though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted July 21, 2017 Share #9 Posted July 21, 2017 Oh really? I can't remember when you've ever posted one thread... Ever... That's my point. You come here for "a enthusiast and insider perspective on the system", so where are the threads you've posted on such topics to lead the direction of discussion that way? You sit back and complain about what threads I start but don't start any. Interesting. Not only that, but you're insensitive to other humans, which isn't exactly shocking. In any event, I'm waiting with baited breath to see what new threads you start so I can experience this perspective you brought up. Probably will be a cold day in hell before you start any though. Are you retarted or something? http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/48426-design-study-vignelli-colored-a-div-rollsigns-of-the-1970s/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/49405-expresslocal-post-goh/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/49447-black-on-white-unimark-vignelli-service-signs-where-are-they/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/50593-roster-of-nycta-rollsigns-mylar-era/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/49392-cuomos-station-redesigns/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/47810-r17-rollsign/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/49195-the-mtas-chopped-off-helvetica-of-the-1980s/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/49181-fresh-overhauls/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/48795-heres-to-the-forums/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/48228-mta-bus-operator-kills-elderly-woman-on-left-turn-continues-driving/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/48382-compare-todays-trip-with-1972s-travel-times/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/46682-remnants-of-the-1980s-subway-stickers/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/47927-arnine-update/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/47671-5364-and-5365/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/47593-so-fresh-so-clean/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/47411-8th-avenue-line-signage/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/47228-r62s-on-the-flushing-line-in-the-1980s/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/46900-they-ran-what-and-then-that/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/46452-quill-rts-twinvision-sign-replacement-updates/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/46319-overruns/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/45536-stainless-steel-museum-fleet-status/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/43970-bx15-bus-kills-cyclist-in-harlem/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/42130-overhead-signs-station-signs-whathaveyou-in-akzidenz-grotesk/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/43624-1968-travel-times-fast/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/24929-so-much-for-the-lucky-7/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/40270-m34-artics-update/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/38732-east-new-york-starts-to-xcel/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 21, 2017 Author Share #10 Posted July 21, 2017 Are you retarted or something? http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/48426-design-study-vignelli-colored-a-div-rollsigns-of-the-1970s/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/49405-expresslocal-post-goh/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/49447-black-on-white-unimark-vignelli-service-signs-where-are-they/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/50593-roster-of-nycta-rollsigns-mylar-era/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/49392-cuomos-station-redesigns/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/47810-r17-rollsign/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/49195-the-mtas-chopped-off-helvetica-of-the-1980s/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/49181-fresh-overhauls/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/48795-heres-to-the-forums/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/48228-mta-bus-operator-kills-elderly-woman-on-left-turn-continues-driving/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/48382-compare-todays-trip-with-1972s-travel-times/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/46682-remnants-of-the-1980s-subway-stickers/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/47927-arnine-update/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/47671-5364-and-5365/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/47593-so-fresh-so-clean/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/47411-8th-avenue-line-signage/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/47228-r62s-on-the-flushing-line-in-the-1980s/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/46900-they-ran-what-and-then-that/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/46452-quill-rts-twinvision-sign-replacement-updates/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/46319-overruns/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/45536-stainless-steel-museum-fleet-status/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/43970-bx15-bus-kills-cyclist-in-harlem/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/42130-overhead-signs-station-signs-whathaveyou-in-akzidenz-grotesk/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/43624-1968-travel-times-fast/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/24929-so-much-for-the-lucky-7/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/40270-m34-artics-update/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/38732-east-new-york-starts-to-xcel/ No wonder I have such poor memory. Most of these posts are from YEARS ago with the "Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect gibberish." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucey Posted July 21, 2017 Share #11 Posted July 21, 2017 Look, your thread spamming is becoming highly irritating. There is literally a thread named "Unplanned Subway Service Changes" pinned to the top for discussion of just this topic. I'm a pretty new user, but you're driving me away. That thread is thousands of pages long, and most people aren't going to bother with clicking "Next Page" nonstop to get past things that happened in 2010 (especially if they don't know how to mark all topics read). You wanna stop new threads on existing topics? Here's what you do: Lock a thread when it gets to a certain number of pages in length; archive it, then create a new version of that thread. #problemsolved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted July 21, 2017 Share #12 Posted July 21, 2017 No wonder I have such poor memory. Most of these posts are from YEARS ago with the "Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect gibberish." That was in the before era, back when the site host had to change. You should remember, you've been here just about as long as I have lol That thread is thousands of pages long, and most people aren't going to bother with clicking "Next Page" nonstop to get past things that happened in 2010 (especially if they don't know how to mark all topics read). You wanna stop new threads on existing topics? Here's what you do: Lock a thread when it gets to a certain number of pages in length; archive it, then create a new version of that thread. #problemsolved Haven't had a good thread purge in ages, might just look into that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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