BM5 via Woodhaven Posted July 31, 2017 Share #1 Posted July 31, 2017 The Metropolitan Transportation Authority is scaling back its little-used express bus and ferry services put in place three weeks ago to help LIRR commuters affected by the ongoing track repairs at Penn Station. The MTA announced Saturday that it’s eliminating its ferry between Long Island City and East 34th Street, and reducing the frequency of buses between Manhattan and five Park & Ride locations on Long Island. The changes will take effect Wednesday. “After careful review we’re adjusting our schedule to reflect our customers’ preferences,” MTA Chairman Joseph Lhota said in a statement. The buses, which have been operating every half-hour during the morning and evening commute rushes, will operate on the hour from 6 to 9 a.m. and 3 to 7 p.m. The buses and the Long Island City ferry have gotten little use since they began operating July 10, when the MTA kicked off its contingency plan to help commuters get around while an Amtrak construction project forces the LIRR to reduce rush hour service to and from Penn. For many of the scheduled buses and the ferry, ridership has been in the single digits or less. Some trips have been canceled because there have been no passengers to transport, officials said. The buses and ferries are part of a larger mitigation plan that has also included adding LIRR trains just outside the rush hours, adding cars to some trains, and giving riders incentives to avoid Penn. “We’ve given LIRR customers an abundance of options and riders have chosen to use the additional LIRR cars, and free subway transfers at Atlantic Terminal and Hunterspoint,” Lhota said. The MTA has already made changes to the plan since instituting it three weeks ago, including by reducing the number of locations where the buses are offered from eight to five — at Belmont Racetrack, Nassau Coliseum, the Melville Park & Ride, and at LIRR stations in Valley Stream and Seaford. Last week, the LIRR also adjusted morning schedules to add Brooklyn connections to some trains and reduce crowding on the Port Washington line. “The MTA continues to evaluate customer travel options during Amtrak’s emergency repair work at Penn Station this summer,” the MTA said in a statement. Offering the extra services is costing $58 million, the agency revealed Wednesday. That includes $18 million for the express buses and $5 million for the ferries, which are both being operated by private vendors. Ferries between Glen Cove and Manhattan will remain in place. MTA officials said scaling back the bus and ferries are expected to result in some cost savings, but did not specify an amount. The MTA has said it intends to recover the costs of the plan from Amtrak, which it blames for the disruptions. Amtrak has said it has no intention of reimbursing the MTA. LIRR commuters can still also use New York City Ferry services between Long Island City and Manhattan, but will not be able to transfer for free from the LIRR. The elimination of the MTA’s Long Island City ferry also means the elimination of its free shuttle service between the LIRR’s Hunterspoint Avenue Station and the ferry terminal. http://www.newsday.com/long-island/transportation/mta-to-scale-back-express-bus-ferry-services-during-penn-repairs-1.13872644 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 31, 2017 Share #2 Posted July 31, 2017 Well a lot of folks complained that many of these services were poorly advertised, so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RES2773 Posted July 31, 2017 Share #3 Posted July 31, 2017 Very strange. I had expected at least somewhat of a turnout for alternatives, but this is surprising. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted July 31, 2017 Share #4 Posted July 31, 2017 Well a lot of folks complained that many of these services were poorly advertised, so there's that. The MTA did advertise the ferries and buses, they just picked terrible locations for the park and ride. No LIRR passenger wants to drive over to Roosevelt Field, Nassau Coliseum, or Belmont Park for non recreational purposes to park their car, catch the express bus to Manhattan, and leave it there for several hours till they come back. The express buses might've had more success if Hicksville and Mineola were used as Park and Ride locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 31, 2017 Share #5 Posted July 31, 2017 The MTA did advertise the ferries and buses, they just picked terrible locations for the park and ride. No LIRR passenger wants to drive over to Roosevelt Field, Nassau Coliseum, or Belmont Park for non recreational purposes to park their car, catch the express bus to Manhattan, and leave it there for several hours till they come back. The express buses might've had more success if Hicksville and Mineola were used as Park and Ride locations. Some people said they had no idea express buses were even running and that's why they didn't use them. Once people start with one commute, they likely aren't going to switch to another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted July 31, 2017 Share #6 Posted July 31, 2017 The express buses are being run by private carriers? When I've been on the CP buses in the morning, I definitely heard the Command Center talking to various buses over the radio that were doing runs from the LI locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 31, 2017 Share #7 Posted July 31, 2017 The express buses are being run by private carriers? When I've been on the CP buses in the morning, I definitely heard the Command Center talking to various buses over the radio that were doing runs from the LI locations.From what I've seen, yes, private carriers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted August 1, 2017 Share #8 Posted August 1, 2017 From what I've seen, yes, private carriers. Interesting, I wonder why it was on the radio in that case. Doesn't matter anymore lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted August 1, 2017 Share #9 Posted August 1, 2017 Interesting, I wonder why it was on the radio in that case. Doesn't matter anymore lolNo idea but they had planned with private carriers from the start, and from what I've seen over by Lex, where they picked up at, no coach buses were used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted August 2, 2017 Share #10 Posted August 2, 2017 Also these buses take significantly longer to get to LI than the train. Better to suffer the crowding than the traffic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted August 3, 2017 Share #11 Posted August 3, 2017 Also these buses take significantly longer to get to LI than the train. Better to suffer the crowding than the traffic... It doesn't help that the buses are in terrible traffic locations to begin with. Nassau Coliseum, Roosevelt Field, etc. are located in areas where there is already a lot of traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtatransit Posted August 3, 2017 Share #12 Posted August 3, 2017 Might as well cancel the buses now, hourly service is pathetic and there is no one that would favor that instead of the train, which despite the reduction is still more frequent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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