nostalgia Posted August 20, 2017 Share #1 Posted August 20, 2017 I've heard those words on the radio at Penn Station. I understand the "hanger" part. There's no signal at the end of both ends of the platform even though there's a switch. The signal is in the middle of the platform which the conductor can see. When the hanger is restricted (the other signal is stop), the conductor knows the switch is correctly aligned for the train and has permission to give the highball on the advertised. I'm not sure about "we've got the gate." At Union Station, starting lights used to hang from the train shed. When both lights were lit, the conductor could give the highball. At Union Station, the usher pushed a button for one light to illuminate. I don't see similar starting lights at Penn so I don't know when the conductor knows that all passengers have come down the escalator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bp98 Posted August 26, 2017 Share #2 Posted August 26, 2017 "We've got the gate" Train has received the "all aboard" from the penn station master "Restricting (not "restricted") on the hangar" The conductor calling out the aspect of the signal to the engineer. There is a switch (and ultimately a signal) that is a few car lengths up the platform on certain tracks which allow trains to access lines 3 and 1 in addition to lines 2 and 4. If the train does not clear the switch when coming into that track going west (the east end of the train is at the east edge of the platform), a "hangar" is created. The signal still governs the initial movement of the train even though the train is not behind the signal. Restricting is the signal being displayed. "OK to go" We have the signal, we have the all aboard.....lets get the hell outta here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share #3 Posted August 26, 2017 How does the station master give the gate to the crew? I don't see starting lights similar to those used in Union Station, Washington. But I heard the conductor talk to an eastbound LIRR train. The train can't pull beyond the platform. For westbound moves, do you mean a train is hanging off the east end of the platform? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bp98 Posted August 26, 2017 Share #4 Posted August 26, 2017 How does the station master give the gate to the crew? I don't see starting lights similar to those used in Union Station, Washington. But I heard the conductor talk to an eastbound LIRR train. The train can't pull beyond the platform. For westbound moves, do you mean a train is hanging off the east end of the platform? The penn station usher, who is ultimately under the supervision of the stationmaster, will announce the all aboard over the station pa, and the solari signs will go dark. A lot of times during rush hour trains "spin in the station", meaning that they leave the equipment in the station. The old crew gets off, and a new crew gets on. As the westbound train comes in, they will specify what kind of stop they want, either a "regular" stop or "behind the hangar". There are no car markers for hangers, so the brakeman has to spot the engineer behind the hangar. The switch is about 2-3 car lengths in from the east end of the platform, towards the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share #5 Posted August 27, 2017 What about Amtrak trains? I don't hear announcements to "close the doors on track 8" for Amtrak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bp98 Posted August 28, 2017 Share #6 Posted August 28, 2017 What about Amtrak trains? I don't hear announcements to "close the doors on track 8" for Amtrak. Not sure about Amtrak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share #7 Posted December 17, 2017 I have information that hangers only apply to tracks 10-13. What is so special about those tracks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share #8 Posted December 17, 2017 Notwithstanding what I wrote earlier about hangers only on tracks 10-13, I found what I think is a photo of a hanger. If you enlarge the photo, the stop signal is beyond the platform in the tunnel. I don't see daylight from a cut so I guess the train is facing the East River tunnels. Also, I'm guessing the E in signal 610E means eastbound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missabassie Posted December 18, 2017 Share #9 Posted December 18, 2017 All that trash n gunk all over the floor (platform).... what a disgrace. This, boys and girls, is the busiest station in the nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share #10 Posted December 27, 2017 On 12/17/2017 at 11:21 AM, nostalgia said: Notwithstanding what I wrote earlier about hangers only on tracks 10-13, I found what I think is a photo of a hanger. If you enlarge the photo, the stop signal is beyond the platform in the tunnel. I don't see daylight from a cut so I guess the train is facing the East River tunnels. Also, I'm guessing the E in signal 610E means eastbound. I should have mentioned I found the photo on Flickr and the photographer is The LIRR Today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bp98 Posted February 26, 2018 Share #11 Posted February 26, 2018 On 12/27/2017 at 6:03 PM, nostalgia said: I should have mentioned I found the photo on Flickr and the photographer is The LIRR Today. 610E is the hanger on track 16, and ultimately is the starting signal for the initial eastward movement of that train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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