Tbirdbassist Posted January 19, 2009 Share #26 Posted January 19, 2009 But wait, that accounts for Times Square. But at Grand Central, that was an express station, no? And express stations were supposed to have 10 cars, right? Going by that video, those platforms don't see track anymore. And if I read Joe Brennans site correctly one or both of those platforms and some trackway are now the walkway to the new 42nd st stop. Also judging by that videos part 1, the express stations were definitely built for at least 8 cars. The local platforms however look like they could barely fit 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted January 19, 2009 Share #27 Posted January 19, 2009 Remember Union Sq also has the shorter abandoned local side platforms as well. Wonder how that station operated back in the early days of the IRT...there aren't really any photos of it from back then but it must have been interesting to see how it worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbirdbassist Posted January 19, 2009 Share #28 Posted January 19, 2009 I think the outer local platforms were mainly for letting passengers off and the islands for boarding. To make it one smooth motion and have the train in and out faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
error46146 Posted January 19, 2009 Share #29 Posted January 19, 2009 Lex/53rd, West 4th, Roosevelt Ave, 71st/Continental, those are all i can think off the top of my head lol i think its better if the stations are longer then the train cause then just in case the t/o overshoots the stop mark at least the train won't be opening in the tunnel.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTrain Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share #30 Posted January 19, 2009 Lex/53rd, West 4th, Roosevelt Ave, 71st/Continental, those are all i can think off the top of my head lol i think its better if the stations are longer then the train cause then just in case the t/o overshoots the stop mark at least the train won't be opening in the tunnel.. Yep, if the train doors opened in the tunnel or worse, at the elevated line, trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted January 19, 2009 Share #31 Posted January 19, 2009 I think the outer local platforms were mainly for letting passengers off and the islands for boarding. To make it one smooth motion and have the train in and out faster. In other words, the Spanish solution. The main point was that they didn't want people to keep on transferring to the expresses. They want the people to remain on the locals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlushingExpress Posted January 19, 2009 Share #32 Posted January 19, 2009 Yep, if the train doors opened in the tunnel or worse, at the elevated line, trouble. that happened like four years ago at Avenue M when i was a student at murrow. a woman almost fell off the train and on to the streets below. that operator was one first class idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted January 20, 2009 Share #33 Posted January 20, 2009 What about on Queens Blvd? This early evening when I was planning to catch Q72 bus, so I boarded 71st Av-bound on rear and there seem to be space there, well as when I got off at 63rd Dr as well, but ended up taking R40/R42 back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbirdbassist Posted January 20, 2009 Share #34 Posted January 20, 2009 I think the QBL has a couple stations built at 660ft long as the IND intended on running 11 car trains or at least had provison to be extened from 600 to 660. I honestly think only the stations that have the ability to platform 1-3 more cars are the ones that should be counted. And from what I understand are most of the ex-railroad lines. A couple feet in the front or back shouldn't really count, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted January 21, 2009 Share #35 Posted January 21, 2009 I think the QBL has a couple stations built at 660ft long as the IND intended on running 11 car trains or at least had provison to be extened from 600 to 660. I honestly think only the stations that have the ability to platform 1-3 more cars are the ones that should be counted. And from what I understand are most of the ex-railroad lines. A couple feet in the front or back shouldn't really count, IMO. Yeah I recall hearing that a few Div B stations were extended a bit longer. Most of them are, on average, like 615 feet long (except BMT East, of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted January 21, 2009 Share #36 Posted January 21, 2009 I think the QBL has a couple stations built at 660ft long as the IND intended on running 11 car trains or at least had provison to be extened from 600 to 660. I honestly think only the stations that have the ability to platform 1-3 more cars are the ones that should be counted. And from what I understand are most of the ex-railroad lines. A couple feet in the front or back shouldn't really count, IMO. I think the largest is the 6th ave IND platform at Herald Sq...I think it's pretty close to 800 feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTrain Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share #37 Posted January 25, 2009 I think the largest is the 6th ave IND platform at Herald Sq...I think it's pretty close to 800 feet Herald Square is very long, 750 feet to be exact, that's why there's at least 75 feet of space between the ends of the platforms and the front and end of the train each. To add to this, there was and there will never be an intention to operate an BMT or IND train longer that 600 feet, in other words no more than eight 75 foot cars per train nor ten 60 foot cars per train, of course that's what the car markers are for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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