Interested Rider

What Brooklyn Bus wrote as to "he" is not true. I decided not to get involved because the change in routing was directly connected to the accident where a person was killed by a bus turning at East 17th Street. and Avenue Z which led to the change. By going straight on Avenue Z from East 17th Street to East 15th Street, the B/36 would avoid the many turns which is in line with the proposed change for the B/49 from Sheepshead Bay Road. This change was also in line with former mayor Bill DeBlasio's Vision Zero which I believe played a role in the re-routing of the B/36 The reason that I proposed using Neptune, Coney Island and Avenue Z, it provides an alternative to the narrow streets that the B/49 operates on in Sheepshead Bay which you are proposing as an alternative to the routing that I have proposed. I sincerely doubt that Operations Planning would be interested in substituting one set of narrow streets for another. In reading through the design, Operations Planning makes it quite clear that if there is an alternative that can be used, they will change the route. (see B/16 ((for example) rerouting from 56th and 57th Streets to 60th Street ire-routing n Borough Park and the routing in Kensington).

That is your opinion and in light of the information provided by operations planning concerning the proposed changes to the B/49, therefore it can be stated that your comment represents just one person's views: yours. The reason that I posted the Ocean - Flatbush terminal is there are three other bus routes that terminate there, the B/16, 43 and the B/48 and the B/48 on Franklin parallels the B/49 running southbound from Fulton Street to Empire Boulevard. The fact that it terminates at the B, Q and S subway lines is extremely helpful in terms of a delay on the subway. The question that I have is their supervision at that point that the fellow posters have raised about the B/49 that can help to make the service more reliable? I am more interested in the views of those who live in the community where you want to extend the route and those of my fellow posters who ride the B/49 as it will enable operations planning to gauge whether your suggestion merits consideration if at all.

g been sick & tired of the B49 crawling along Ocean the way it does. I have to agree with you as to the service at the northern end. My reading on the proposed changes for the B/49 is that the MTA does not know what to do with it as it is too far from either the Ulmer Park or Flatbush garages and Operations Planning is looking for a place where there is supervision for the route. The problem is that the route has always been an outlier from trolley days when trolley ran empty from the barn on Hegeman and Rockaway Avenues to Rogers Avenue was where it went into service. When it was converted to a bus route, it ran out of the West 5th Street garage which closed on 7/26/60 with the opening of the Fresh Pond garage when it was transferred to Flatbush In the 1960'she change to one way streets from two way streets did not help the route. There is a picture in one of the books on Brooklyn trolleys that I own which shows three Ocean Avenue trolleys going in the same direction at Rogers and Flatbush Avenues in the 1940's. I usually do not like to propose route changes on routes that I really do not ride but I it is my opinion that the B/49 should operate on Ocean Avenue to Avenue J and then follow the B/11 route to the junction and terminate there. My reasoning is based on that it will provide riders with transfers to the B/44 local and select bus routes which it is my opinion which is what operations planning wants to do anyway. Another alternative is to keep the B/49 on Ocean Avenue to the Prospect Park B,Q, Station and terminate it there. The B/48 starts there and it could provide alternative service.

Back with the B/9 to Bergen Beach where after Flatbush Avenue, it would carry air? There are two separate and totally different communities with Flatbush Avenue being the dividing line. The B/9 is fine as there are sufficient ridership to justify the service coming from Sunset Park, Borough Park and Midwood to Kings Plaza. there are some runs that terminate at Flatbush Avenue and Kings Highway on school days and late nights. I would prefer that those who live in Bergen Beach determine as to what service should be provided.

The re-routing of the B/49 to Avenue Z has an impact on just the southbound stop in Sheepshead Bay as the B/49 will stop at the westbound B/36 stop at East 15th Street. Northbound B/49 buses already stop at Avenue Z and East 15th Street where the eastbound B4 and B/36 stops as well. The difference is that instead of the B/49 using the cowpath known as Sheepshead Bay Road, it substitutes Avenue Z, Coney Island Avenue and Neptune Avenue which are wider streets. In reading the section on the B/49, it seems that this would be a better alternative for service from Manhattan Beach and provide service to the Coney Island Avenue Z shopping area for many in the community.

The B/49 would operate on Avenue Z in both directions from Ocean Avenue to Coney Island Avenue. The stop for the Sheepshead Bay Station going toward Bedford-Stuyvesant would be the existing stop at East 15th Street. The stop toward Manhattan Beach would be where the B/36 stops at East 15th Street. The re-routing was in response to operations planning proposal to send the B/49 to Coney Island and it basically keeps the route intact but eliminates the portion on the narrow streets in Sheepshead Bay.

It takes a lot for me to respond to some of these posts but reading some of the posts today, got up my dander. The focus should be on how the bus service will help the population in that community year round. This is why I have to go back and start work on how operations planning proposal with the elimination of the bus stops on the B/3 and the B/9 which will negatively impact upon the senior population in the Midwood and Sheepshead Bay communities. I have submitted the proposal about the changes to the B/36 and the B/44 select bus and would like to update the proposed change for the B/44 local and select bus terminal from Avenue U to Avenue X. When I proposed this change earlier last year, we did not have the problems with the illegals being housed in the Emmons Avenue motels. As many of you know, I travel just the three blocks and the change that was proposed is needed more than ever as trying to board either a B/44 local or select bus at Avenue U and to get off at Avenue X has become a virtual war getting on and off. As far as the B/49 limited to Kingsborough Community College, let the college provide the service, not the MTA. Everything depends upon the enrollment and based on my readings, indicates their enrollment is declining, so let it die. This is not to say that college service should be discontinued, it would be more effective if it was based on need, not involve the college. The B/49 should continue to Manhattan Beach but continue on Avenue Z to Coney Island Avenue then south on Coney Island Avenue to Neptune Avenue and then east on Neptune to Shore Boulevard then resume regular route to Manhattan Beach. This change will eliminate the routing through the narrow streets and provide access to the Coney Island Avenue - Avenue Z shopping center. This would eliminate the problems with the narrow streets in Sheepshead Bay

You are the one who proposed this sometime ago and when it was proposed originally, I said it was unworkable and your data was flawed. It seems that Operations Planning adopted your proposal and they included it in the redesign. Now you are back with the Kingsborough proposal which I also said was unworkable and would make the situation worse but you keep bringing it up on this forum. Leave the B/44 select bus alone as the route is long enough. There is a need for a change on the B/44 local and select bus terminals from Avenue U to Avenue X especially during the weekday select bus midday hours. This will help the B/44 local and select bus and the B/36 as well. I have looked at the re=routing of the B/49 from Manhattan Beach to Coney Island and the B/4 via Neptune Avenue ,and Coney Island Hospital and take the position both routes remain as is. In reading your posts on these two routes here you agree with operations planning that changes must be made. What you and operations panning forget the key here that connects the routes and the reason that remain as is that both routes serve the main 11235 post office on Avenue Z that would not available. Operations planning is proposing that the B/68 replace the B/49 in Manhattan Beach. Another thing that should be buried. The changes that were made in November 1978 were needed and are still working quite well.

For the record, I live nowhere near the nursing homes as you are well aware. The time that I was looking out my window at 4:15 AM on a Saturday morning, the temperature was in the mid 50's and the persons were wearing shorts and short sleeve shirts which was not typical for that time of persons going to work..

Sometime at the end of June, I looked out of my window at 4:15 AM on a Saturday morning, I observed ten (yes ten) individuals who were looking at the post board as to when the next B/44 bus would arrive. Before this happened, I always observed 2-3 riders boarding at this stop and this is with a schedule of 60 minutes. This means that there are more people riding for the entire route. While I cannot pinpoint where they are coming from, it seems that there has been a large increase in the number of B/44 riders at all times coming from during the Knapp Street portion of the route. In fact, it was next to the impossible to board a Knapp Street select bus during the midday period at Avenue U one day. The B/44 locals are just as crowded going to Knapp Street during the midday period. Bus service is a variable thing as one day the bus would have 2 people boarding at the same time as the next day when you have 10 people. This is why I try not to make generalizations as to the number of passengers at different times of the day if I do not ride the bus at that time.

The only change is that instead of using Nostrand Avenue from Avenue Y to Avenue Z, it would go via Avenue Y to Batchelder Street the south on Batchelder Street to Avenue Z then via Avenue Z and regular routing. It will retain its regular routing to the Avenue U terminal. The goal is to connect the cooperative with the Nostrand Avenue Shopping Center, the library, the Y and the Senior Centers

Yes! The route is Nostrand Avenue, Avenue Y, Batchelder Street, Avenue Z and regular. Reverse is just the opposite as it is Avenue Z, Batchelder Street, Batchelder Street, Avenue Y, Nostrand Avenue and regular to Avenue U terminal. The number of stops to be added toward Coney Island are three East side of Avenue Y at Nostrand Avenue, Southwest corner of Batchelder Street and Avenue Y and

Yes! Kill it! and keep the B/36 with a modification to serve the Kings Bay Cooperative at Batchelder Street.

MTA website is reporting delays on B/6,B/44,B/44 SBS are being delayed due to an MTA accident at Glenwood Road and Nostrand Avenue.