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Once again, what the heck is wrong with having the be mostly R62As with a few R142As? There's no point in spreading the R62As around needlessly.

I'm saying that running all but TWO of Westchester's trains in service isn't a good idea. Trains, particularly older ones, can break down. You need extras to fill in when that happens. The way to solve it is either to put all of the R62As from the onto the , or to just have the be a combination of R62As and R142As. The numbers don't add up. There aren't enough R62As for both the and to keep their spare factors unless one of them gets other trains besides R62As.

But you're perfectly comfortable with the idea of practically eliminating it.

The problem is that to make the 100% R62A, you'll have to either reduce the spare factor for the or the . From Junjun's posts, it seems like he doesn't even know what a spare factor is... EDIT: I meant the or the . Whoops.

Like I said, it doesn't make sense to have a spare factor of only 2 trains for the line which runs 40 trains during rush hour. You guys are using general judgement and estimation to figure out car assignments, not hard numbers. AFAIK, the used to run some redbirds along with the R62As.

What the hell? The article proves that they will go to the east side, but we still don't know whether they'll go to the or the . You acted like that article somehow showed that. Westchester Yard currently has 450 trains. Corona yard only has 424 cars. How is that enough? Since the runs 40 trains in rush hour, a spare factor of only 2 trains isn't enough.

Three things that some people in this thread don't seem to understand: 1. There aren't enough R62As for the to become 100% R62A 2. Just because the R142As are going to come from the doesn't mean that the R62As have to go there 3. @ junjun798, that article that you keep citing as evidence supporting your point makes no mention of whether the R62As are going to the or the . We still have no idea where you learned that from. Look, the "cool" railfans who don't care about car assignments can call me a foamer, but I'll admit that I do find this topic interesting and I do have certain biases to certain trains being on certain lines. Unlike some people though, I won't try to predict anything or act like I know more than I do. I'm just trying to figure out what would be a logical solution for the R62As and R188s.

I'm pretty confident that Brighton Express meant that we don't know which of those lines the trains are going to come from. He just phrased it really badly.

I've got a question: how commonly are station timers found in areas that aren't stations? And, are there very many stations without them?

Recently the northbound seems to be going really slowly between Brooklyn Bridge and passing Canal St. I can't remember; was it always this slow or were new timers installed this summer? I thought I remembered going faster there a few months ago.

Random thought: I've been a magnet for R142As on the recently, so it would seem...

Remember, though, you're putting about 39-40 TPH onto one track.

Wait, what's wrong with Essex? And remember, like I said, you went over 30 TPH.

I've got a crazy solution to this, which some people would consider foamerish. But, I just don't feel like doing the usual "split the into two sections" thing. So, here we go: downtown trains run via the uptown express track from 125 St to 34 St; uptown trains run local from Canal St to 125 St Bronx - 145 St Brooklyn - 42 St-Bryant Park

I'm still wondering, of course, how badly the SMS'd R32s will need fresh air. I don't mean to sound like a broken record, though.

Short-term: terminates at 14 St; select trains extended to Utica or New Lots Av runs local south of 34 St terminates at Canal St via Manhattan Bridge; select Queens-bound trains terminate at Whitehall St; select Brooklyn-bound trains terminate at Canal St I don't really see how the are affected by this. They can skip Chambers and Fulton if conditions are bad, but I don't see how the trains wouldn't be able to pass through. I would also have and trains skip Fulton St and the skip Park Place. NEXT: High St blows up. This is a long-term service change, so you should feel free to adjust the TPH of lines. One rule: you can't split the into two sections.

What lines specifically are impassible?

NOPE. Not only have you made things too complicated, but you've completely overloaded the 6 Avenue Local tracks...And besides, I don't think there are even enough trains to extend the to 168 St. A much better choice (even though this would also overload the 6 Avenue Local tracks) would be to just run the along with the via the line. Keep in mind that suddenly implementing skip-stop when people don't expect it is going to lead a lot of people to miss their stops. Sure, you can tell people to listen to the announcements, but a lot of people won't because they think they know how their train is running.

I can't say I'm a fan of all of these fantasy route/prediction scenarios.

I don't really understand what's wrong with it, though. Still, if it's a problem, trains can terminate at 34 St. NEXT: 174 St yard and the tracks leading up to it (which the uses to terminate) are closed for maintenance.

Jamaica Center - Essex St via between W 4 St and Jay St, fully local Jamaica Center - 14 St (skips 23 St) : 10 TPH : 10 TPH : 8 TPH The switches are at 34 St.

Weeks? I had no idea that there was any possibility that it would be this soon...

Anyone want to do my old scenario: BTW, the switches to the spur are also impassible.

Then what's the point of the SMS? Is it not going to be finished by then?

Nice job of not overcomplicating things. Hey, did you know that there's another train that can run on the line between W 4 and 168 St? IT'S CALLED THE . That way, you won't screw up Queens Blvd for no reason.