Q64Extention

I think one way we can boost the Q26's ridership is having it terminate and originate with the Q27, combining the Q26 and Q27 into one stop at 39th Avenue, because a lot of people who are able to use the Q26 choose to take the Q27 instead. The Q26 can follow the Q65 along Kissena and Sanford and continue down Parsons on its current route. Q26 midday service can be restored, and all of this is going to relieve the severe crowds on the 27.

I think that Q17 service should be fixed on the weekends. Every other or every third 17 going to/from Flushing should short turn at HHE and 188th Street, similar to what the Q27 does. This is because one problem with the 17 is that it gets absolutely packed on Kissena and practically empty on 188th. Also, it clumps in threes and fours on 188th Street all the time.

I'm confused, but I believe that the Q88 is fine as it is.

The Q88 needs to start working earlier on Sunday mornings. It's so lazy!

I have decided to unfollow this topic because you guise keep bickering.

smh... The Q34 does not operate on weekends, and I said the Q65, not the Q64.

According to statistics, the Q17 got 22,382 weekly weekend riders in 2011. The Q25 and Q65 received 18,857 riders and 14,668 riders, respectively. I never said that the 17 needed daily LTD service, but I'm just letting you know that the Q17 gets crowded everyday, but not at every point of its route or every time of the day.

Yes, the Q17 is frequent, but not very reliable. Usually, when I wait for a Flushing-bound 17 at the 182nd Street and Hillside Avenue bus stop on an early weekday afternoon, I need to wait for approximately 12 minutes, and usually at least five other buses come before the Q17. Once, my friends and I had to wait for 45 minutes. Granted, it was raining pretty hard, which might have caused delays, but four Q43's, and basically at least two buses from every other bus route came by before the Q17 did. It was quite unpleasant. And yeah, the Q25 totally needs LTD service on weekends, or at least more service. The Q65 needs more service too. Both routes get packed along Kissena Blvd. It's not uncommon for the bus to be so full, that people need to temporarily get off the bus in order for others to get on and insert their metrocard. The Q17 pretty much empties along HHE and 188th Street, so I see why the it doesn't look so full in Jamaica.

Same thing with the Q17 and Q25.

I can't comment on the Q33, since I'm not familiar with it. Q30A: Totally Unnecessary, considering how tight money is. Q74: Booth Memorial will not attract an adequate amount of ridership, and most people who go from Fresh Meadows to QC take the Q17 or Q88, or walk there, which I did once, round-trip. Q78: This is a hot mess. You're better off with extending the Q26 to Hollis Hills Terrace, which I do not recommend either. Also, unless you make Laburnum/Oak/Pigeon Meadow/Lithonia one-way streets, bus maneuvering will be painful.

The Q25 and Q65 need more service on weekends. Waiting for the Q65 is a pain in the ass on any day of the week, and they're often crowded. There are times during weekend afternoons where the Jamaica-bound Q25 is so crowded along Kissena, that people need to lean on the front "dashboard" of the bus. We can say the same thing with the Jamaica-bound Q17, but the 17 simply never follows its schedule. Plus, that sidewalk from the HHE to Booth Mem. Ave. on 164th Street needs to be wider, although this is off-topic. In addition, regarding the Q74, I still support my Q14 idea from long ago.

Didn't we have this discussion before?

Ikr... Perhaps it's to tell New York visitors from JFK that the Q3 goes to a subway station in Jamaica, but most visitors wouldn't know that much about the NYC transit bus system, and the majority of tourists and immigrants use taxis or private buses, or the Airtrain. There's still a ton of traffic on side streets, and the farther you terminate away from the station, the crankier people get. Also, I'm not totally in favor in adding another Flushing-College Point route, especially if it imitates the Q25. Also, the Q25 should not be split, if that's what you're suggesting. Some C.P.-Flushing trips should do the trick.

Every bus. >.<

I'm curious. Why does that Q3 flash "Jamaica 179 St. Sta" and then flash "165 St Term"? Doesn't it confuse some people?

I agree. (I know that I'm being bipolar, but w/e.) The Q27 and the revised Q30 provide adequate enough service to QCC. Although the Q27 will still be overcrowded and clump like hell, there's only so much we can do to help it. Thus, I take back everything I have stated about extending the Q26.

Oh. I thought that cars and buses can't cross Queens Blvd from one side of Union Tpke to the other and have to use the GCP. Nvm.

If you extend the Q37, wouldn't it bypass the Kew Gardens stations?

Keep on Dreamin~

What I was saying was that the Q76 could remain on 14th Ave. until 132nd Street, where it heads to 20th Avenue. Maybe the Q20 could terminate at 132nd Street and 14th Avenue so the other side of 14th Ave. can be covered, turning around via. 133rd Pl. and 14th Rd.

-I'm trying to have the line go around Queens College like the previous 74 did, but maybe you're right. It would probably be unnecessary. Also, I'm trying to give a supplement for Q34 service and old Q14 service, so the Q34 and Q15A could be discontinued. -The Q76 go to 20th Avenue via. 132nd St. and terminate at the mall. - It will operate every 10 minutes during A.M. rush, 25 minutes during Noon, 13 minutes during P.M. rush, and 20 minutes during the evening. Some rush hour buses can terminate at Flushing-Main Street from Whitestone or Kew Gardens. Correction: The old Q14 operated on weekends too, but I guess it could be discontinued,

OKAY OKAY! Let's forget about. God. How about the idea of heavily revising the Q20b, which I touched upon before? It could be renamed the Q14, which bridges the route number gap in the Q10s section, unless someone decides to discontinue the Q19. This new route replaces the Q14, Q34, and Q74. It will go from Whitestone:7 Avenue/Clintonville Street. to Kew Gardens: Queens Blvd. From K.G, it will run via the Q74 until 73rd Ave. where it will immediately turn right, followed by a left on 150th Street and a right on Melbourne Avenue, which allows people to go to THHS or Queens College. Then, it turns left on Kissena, followed by another left on Booth Memorial, making it easier to reach Queens Hospital from Kissena Blvd. After that, the Q14 turns right on Main Street, and continues down until Northern Blvd, where it takes a right. Then, it makes a left on Linden Pl., following the current Q34 route until Willets Point and 149th Street. Instead of taking 149th St. like the old Q14, the new one could take 150th Street, because riders who live close by to both streets don't have to risk missing a Q15 while waiting on 149th, or missing a Q14 while waiting on 150th, and neither bus have much service. The Q14 continues down until 7th Avenue, taking a right and terminating on Clintonville. This could cause the Q34 and the Q15A to be discontinued. Also, the Q76 can go to College Point Blvd via. 14th and 15th Ave. instead of 20th Ave. to supplement for lost Q20b service, and they are both weekday-only so it's all good. Regarding that, the new Q14 could still run as a weekday-only bus because the original Q14, Q20b, Q34, and Q74s didn't/don't run on weekends. The Q20a could just be the Q20.

It could be somewhat frustrating for some impatient people for the Q27 to turn around at QCC, as well as to crowd with a bunch of students from QCC and Cardozo. It's just my assumption.