Q23 via 108

Enough for them to call ems

I don't think any train can beat the . The AM rush is brutal on the Local and Express. You will have to let trains pass and wait for the next one just to get some standing room.

Do SIR Train operators make the same as NYC subway operators?

When Trains are converted to work service, do they have specific procedures on how they are to be implemented. In the case of the 62s/As, would they take out side rollsigns and seats. Would they take out the gates on the front of the car to make it look like an R127/R134?

Fairpoint. All I can say now is that the R62s and R62s better be ready for being the next work trains.

Yeah, forgot about the open gangway. That would greatly improve the service and overcrowding.

I hear you about that, but at the same time is completely underground and its using R32 and R46s which are much older than the 62As. Now yeah, the is heavily used so those doors might need some work on it but overall. Many subway lines are using old car types underground. Half of the is underground and has a good amount of R46s, The is completely underground with R46s. And the is mostly underground with R46s and R32s. So to me, those 62As have a lot more life in them.

There's no need for that but if they were to do something like that, I'd rather have the run up Brighton and the up west end. But won't do that. They would have to change the signs at all stations. And it's not like the equipment is going to change, so it really doesn't need to happen.

In my honest opinion, I would run the R62As on the till they die. I don't see the need to scrap Livonia's R62A's since the line it only has two stops. I can see R62As (on the shuttle) running along side with the new R262s. Granted, if the 62As begin to prove unreliable than yeah, give it some tech. But if the oldest R32s can run on the (the longest route) than I'm pretty sure a couple of R62As can do the (the shortest).

Yeah that's what I was thinking. Kinda like a Train of Many Colors, but using all types of RTSes. You've got the ex PBLs, and a variety of GMC, TMC, Novabuses. Maybe some day into the future, they can just run several RTSes on the M42 (Or some other route, most of MJQ routes are short) for a day. But regardless, atleast we know that we'll still have RTSes in our fleet in preservation.

Also, once all the RTSes retire, do you think that they could perhaps run them on the M42 during the holidays along side the Historic fleet? Either way, MTA Bus as a whole will never be the same. The next chapter will be on Xcelsior's. The Xcelsior's are doing what the RTS was doing 40 years ago. Back then MTA just bought mostly RTSes (And some Orion 5s to add variety). Nowadays, MTA is mainly buying Xcelsior's (and some Novas here and there). And the only difference is that the Xcelsior's come in more versions (XD, XN, XE, XDE, 40ft and Artic). RTS were only 40ft diesel (with very few exceptions. A few CNGs here and there. And that one Methanol RTS) So when everything is all set and done. I have the Xcelsior's as "New York's Next Bus". Me personally I'd say that the Orion 7s, would be the next face of the MTA (Because they have a big presence and impact in every borough except Staten island) But those Orion 7s aren't going to last long as the Xcelsior's seeing as they are hybrids (About 15 years) . And that one Orion 7 in JFK (I think its 3565) that is the diesel converter unit will probably be the only Orion 7 to be preserved. And when I say Orion 7, I say Old gens, Not talking about Next Gens.

Is MTA considering doing a farewell run for the RTS? They should, because the RTSes are apart of New York's history. That bus model has been here for 40 years. Everyone in New York has at least seen one in person, and it is definitely an icon. It's on that status of those Yellow Crown Victoria taxi cabs. I know they'll persevere unit 5249, but MTA should do what they did on the last day of the Redbird. Granted an RTS cannot fit as many people as a 11 car R36 train, but they can have it on a display for one last time in revenue service. Also, has MTA thought about converting a 1999 Novabus RTS to a Metrocard bus?

Facts my guy. Now, you are very lucky to see an R68 on the Q. And it doesn't help that all the tech trains are basically the same. The only main difference is the propulsion sound. R143s, 160 A/B, and 179s are the same thing to me. Now IRT is different because it's used to using one car type. But the B division used to be fun. Now all you really got is 8th Av and the .

I definitely am aware of Weekend GOHs. Like the one where the will run from Flatbush Avenue to 96 Street using an R62A. But I would have to be on some DjHammers type stuff to find these rare occurrences. Yeah on weekend GOH you can kinda already tell what equipment or rerouting will occur. But I can't know when and Trains will be backed up. So then they'll send trains to New Lots Av. Those type of things, you just have to be lucky, and at the right place at the right time.

So tired of seeing the same 8th Avenue and Nassau St Stations because it's the only lines we with good equipment. You go on Instagram and other media outlets and only see and train action at the same spot (Williamsburg Bridge, Marcy Av, Chambers St, Broadway Junction, Rockaway Blvd, 168 St, Euclid Av and any other 8 Av line station). Meanwhile you have a whole subway system that no one fans outside of the 8th Ave line, Nassau, and Flushing. No one goes and ventures out to West End , or Crosstown, or Canarsie, or IRT Brooklyn/ Nostrand Av, Jerome, Dyre, WPR, and more. Now granted. Some of these places are dangerous, and may not be that interesting. But the general consensus is that the lines to fan are the same 5 mentioned above (including ). And I know you all are tired of the same entering Queens Boro Plaza Station picture.

There is two things that factor a line's variety. The Yard and Line it self. For example. The only uses R68s because of Concourse Yard. Or Jamaica Yard only carries two car types R46s and R160s. Compare that to East New York, 207 St, or Pitkin where they've got R32s, R42s, R46s, R143,R160s, and R179s. Lots of diversity. Another factor is the line. The and use the R142s. But these trains are perfect for the and since they can easily change service for either line very quickly. Thats why White Plains Road didn't get R62As. CBTC is another factor. Once the Queens Blvd becomes equipped, the 46s gotta go somewhere else. The and also cannot use older trains because of CBTC so this is why the trains now are "consistant" fleet wise. The future could be interesting with CBTC. I would love to see the R46s from the and go to the Train, and the R160s from the to the and . Its totally possible, look at the swap of the and Trains.

Hope so. I grew up in Corona, so a lot of times, I would go transfer at 74 Street to QBL. And man the Late 2000s on Queens Bl was lit. R32s, R40M/R42, R46, and R160 on the E F G R V. My favorites were The R46 R and V and the R32 E Train. Those E operators used to haul a$$ into Continental Av. As far as the A I thought it used everything from R32 to R46. But the 44s were the all time best train for the. The A was a champion with the 38s and 44s.

You could pretty much say that about every line 15 years ago. You could walk into subway station and expect anything from R32 to NTT. Now you have to go to specific lines to see certain car types. For example, The used to have a nice mix of R32s R40 Slants R42s and R68s. Now it's just a bunch of tech and maybe a 68. Today, if you want to see a 42, go the . If you want to see a 32 and . Miss the days where most subway lines had more than one car type with "A CHANCE". Today lines with some variety are very uncommon. The has way more R160s than R68s. Or the has only one R62, or the has one R143, or the will have one PM R68 or the will have one AM R46 or the using 2 R160s. (Not dissing NTTs but they are not that different from each other) That's mad whack. The only line that's 50/50 is the which is half R142 half R142A. Subway was way more cooler in the 80s, 90s, and early to mid 2000s.

I feel like MTA will preserve R62 1438 since it was involved in the 1991 Union Square Wreck. MTA seems to save trains that have been involved in accidents. Also, These 62/As would be the next work trains replacing the Redbird Work trains. So... would they be painted yellow? (Prob not)

The only time I've been shook in the bronx is when I had to look for a family member by 167 Street at night. My cousin was lost and I was going up and down River Av. (If you know what I'm talking about, it was by the Grafitti covered Wall and Car lots). I was mad scared (Must of been like 10 years old) with my grandma . I remeber it was smelly too, and a lot of shady people. Jerome at night, nah man I'm good. (Mind you that was a long local back home. Lived in Corona, so 167 to 42st local all the way down to catch the )

What are the most dangerous places to fan on? I know the for sure (Brownsville nuff said) But other than that, I dont find any other part of the city "scary".

Also, was that train bound for Brooklyn or Lower Manhattan? The trains crashed in AM Rush so was the going to Bay Parkway or 9 Av, or just to Chambers Street.

How fast was the when it smacked the on the Williamsburg Bridge? Looking at the damage, looks like it had a good amout of speed.

My man needs some Vicks Vapor Rub.

Lowkey, the R68s are going to die on the . They've been there since they were born.