m2fwannabe

Exactly...

This train must have wound up at Jamaica by mistake and needed to be retrieved for East New York. That can happen! 8341-4 and 8221-4 can absolutely be interoperated, when required, but only on the L. Those two have the "Canarsie" flavor of CBTC, which have to only be used in revenue service there. R-143s 8101-8212 and R-160A-1s 8313-8376. Nominally separately, however. The balance of R-160A-1s based at East New York (8377-8652 and 9943-9974) now have "Queens" CBTC, which are segregated onto the M for revenue service. My presumption is somehow it was migrated all the way to Jamaica on by-pass, unless it was for some other reason. Might not have been missed until someone was surprised once they tried to get it on the road for the M and couldn't answer.

I like this idea. I agree that the r160's should stay on the A at least until ridership on the F becomes as high as it was before the pandemic or if ridership stays low on the F until the r211's. That would bump more r46's on the C. However, I think that the 5 car r179's should stay only on the A because the A needs more 60ft cars due to ridership. All 5 car r179's plus the r160's would make most of the A fleet. Well, let's do it! Then there won't be any more complaints about mixed 8 and 10 car trains on the . There's no way now to run a full schedule of 8-car trains on without stealing equipment from someplace else that's now configured for operation on a particular line because of CBTC. I gotta believe the media won't appreciate the shortened train lengths once they figure this out and no matter what to run about half of the schedule for the foreseeable future (barring a return of the R-32s) there will only and always be full-length R-46s to fill out the requirement until the R-211s do start to arrive.

FWIW, My (rare) thought is...(ahem)... As was proposed a few years ago for different reasoning, to find a home for the new trains that were procured in a shortened length: Assign 16 (sixteen) 8-car R-179 trains (128 cars) to Coney Island for erstwhile use on the . That falls along with maximizing train lengthening for health reasons as well as comfort. Leave the balance (60) on as is where the R-32s could fill any fleet shortages. Not all probably but as many as necessary. That's the best place to keep the R-32s as their burden seems far less onerous at East New York for whatever time they have left until the R-211s are delivered. Plus depending on how well or not ridership recovers overall in the next few years. Use the 64 R-68/68As now on to fill out CIY needs on which could relieve the 85 remaining R-160s at CIY (almost perfect translation to 8-8.5 trains) for furtherance to JYD. There the surplus R-160s would remain as required on from JYD, where the full fleet of 1285 are planned to be deployed eventually in any case. This allows the use of complete full-length R-46 trains on and as is present, with the infusion of both R-46s and 5-car R-179s on both routes.

Allow me to repost this with the "bullets" so it makes some sense. One big reason the full length trains are now on is for maximization of distancing, which will probably require them to stay until the health issues are resolved in the future. In fact, would it not be possible to use the 10-car R-179s on as well as for the same reason? When or if (i.e. where?) the former fleet from (3146-3237) is to be restored is uncertain. Terminal cost is not a reason to reduce the capacity, sparse as it may seem given the ongoing pandemic. As I understand the is now "double-ended" for relays which eliminates the need for a complete walk-through with associated unlock/relock for each car as previously.

One big reason the full length trains are now on is for maximization of distancing, which will probably require them to stay until the health issues are resolved in the future. In fact, would it not be possible to use the 10-car R-179s on as well as for the same reason? When or if (i.e. where?) the former fleet from (3146-3237) is to be restored is uncertain. Terminal cost is not a reason to reduce the capacity, sparse as it may seem given the ongoing pandemic. As I understand the is now "double-ended" for relays which eliminates the need for a complete walk-through with associated unlock/relock for each car as previously.

There's two 10-car R179s on the since a few days ago (3238-47) and no R32s saw service today. Nothing on the paper report of a second train (yet) through AM of Monday, 5 October. Three days ago.

The 64 Re-testing R-179s as of October 5 were: 3050-53, 3058-61, 3066-73, 3078-85, 3098-3121, 3126-29, 3134-45. These were configured into 8, 8-car trains on as projected. One 10-car train (3248-57) has also been released on . Two 8-car trains of R-32s were also on the cycle (somewhere). There is still no apparent status change for the R-32 fleet.

What about the C train on R179 maybe there testing it to get back in service because so far A train is back on R179. The one train on is just that as yet. One train shown as released. Just 10 cars, none others. Nothing at all yet about those from . Planned assignments were not as yet solidified.

I rode that set this afternoon from 125th Street to Fulton street. It ran slow around 42nd Street due to track work. Other than that, it was a smooth ride. It appeared to be 3253-7 and 3248-52. Unknown why as yet. Re-test for the fleet was as best known not yet underway.

Did somebody say 'rollsign cranks'? Thank you! No surprise here, but reports also had it laid up for legal reasons. Evidently that was also rectified satisfactorily.

So, the score one week into "Operation Resurrection" is this way: As of September 28, 2020 4-car R-179s 3050-53, 3058-61, 3066-69, 3082-85, 3086-89, 3098-3101, 3102-05, 3106-09, 3114-17, 3118-21, 3138-41 and 3142-45 (48 cars) are in the Revenue testing pool. So far cars 3070-73, 3110-13 and 3126-29 have "washed out" for one reason or other and will go to the back of the line until their troubles are addressed. What I best understand is the Revenue testing pool is to be limited to 8, 8 car (64) trains at a time. Coming attractions (soon) will be 3122-25, 3130-33 and 3134-37. All other cars between 3050 and 3145 are in various states of prep for restoration and will be tested on the and until re-acceptance is achieved. Assuming its a 30-Day Testing horizon the first of those would be around or about October 23. Cars 3146-3237 (formerly ) are still in stir (storage), as are 3010-49 and 3238-3327 (formerly ). All I might add is that the preliminary plan is to re-test the former cars on and as well. That DOESN'T mean they would STAY there. Other non-revenue testing is performed elsewhere as well, which could be just about ANYWHERE. Until the future deployment plan is finalized, which it is definitely NOT (!) there is nothing yet certain for a timeline to come. Depends on the results (note the first week as above). Interesting but as of the same date, not only was the standing fleet of R-32s was now UP to 136 for some reason. If you notice, 3924/25 were back in revenue service after waiting for months. The point is as of Monday NO (Zero) R-32s had as yet (again) been withdrawn from service. All are accounted for otherwise.

The doesn’t need them because they are using the R46’s. The R160s that run on the are for the only. If anyone hasn't noticed, the has been 100% R-46 since July 3. AT LAST!!!! Hooray!!!! Evidently those pair of wandering R-160A-1s from ENY went home after the day on July 2 for the Holiday Weekend.

Those went to Jamaica (via Pitkin ) on June 6. The only R-160s left at Coney Island after that were 8913-17, 9008-12 and 9023-9102. If for some reason JYD can't keep its inspection requirements they can send overflow to Coney Island Inspection Facility upon request. IF that happens they might wind up getting used on Coney Island routes (until someone finds out and sends them/calls them back home). Through July 4, 365 various Jamaica-based R-160s (now including two Siemens/Alstom mixes) had been used on since June 6. FYI, the July 4 R-32 report has 82 at East New York (10 trains max); 16 more were OK at 207 for possible use @ ENY (up to 98 Total). Stay tuned for coming weeks if the R-32 fleet will rise or fall.

Constantly. The cabs are freely having minor problems all the time so trains get shifted between operating ends and middles all the time to keep the cabs as reliable as possible for as long as possible. That way you don't lose the whole unit or train consist like on the unitized cars.