Brillant93

Wouldn’t be surprised if some mafia like behavior is taking hold.

Its probably not too late, but getting repairs done shouldn't take almost 10 years for a depot or anything else.

I'm not sure why people are acting as if the MTA has the money to rebuild and fix off their property? They are a government agency, they will need money to fix the vast system we have in this city. Our depots are very old, they were old trolley barns for a lot of them, they need to be rebuilt or renovated, but at the same time look how long its taking for Jamaica bus depot to even get rebuilt. This was planned years ago, but construction won't even start until when? Next year? The MTA needs money, but the MTA needs to also be freed from being a pawn for politicians as well.

It’s a government agency and it requires hearings before implementation. You want them to just go a head with the redesign without community input?

I think this was mentioned a couple months ago on here. But we have the late 2000s and early 2010 models aging out.

Also wearing designer clothing doesnt matter either.

Its the fleet and depot thread.

Has farebeating ever gotten this bad? I was on a route and I watched everyone and I was the only one who paid to get on.

What's the Flatbush depot renovations gonna be about? I'm curious?

The Q35 going to sheepsheads bay and not Flatbush junction where there is a straight connection to a subway doesn't make any sense at all. How many people from Far Rockaway are going to that area? Who will it benefit? Most of the people who travel from that area aren't going there so there isn't a need for the Q35 to even be rerouted because you are already taking away a direct connection to Manhattan via the subway.

It’s probably to make a train connection.

Well, i'm not one of those people who would act as if things weren't bad back then, but I am more so saying along the lines of public behavior now vs back then. I mean years ago many people wouldn't fare beat but now its sort of a thing that is commonly done without any sort of remorse. It really has no bearing on the MTA but just the public in general.

I believe some transit agencies check the contactless payment cards randomly. But if they do, I think they would have to be police. edit: has anyone even noticed that there’s lots of people who vape on the trains now?

Do you think the MTA are going to have some sort of eagle team on all the bus routes once OMNY goes into full effect? Its not practical for bus drivers risk their lives asking for fare and a lot of people just walk on the buses without paying now. I would imagine they'll use a device to check and see if OMNY cards were swiped and if you have a transaction receipt on your phone.

So my suspicions were right, its still being used. I don't know why they needed to give that depot back to the city it there were never any plans to even tear it down. I understand it was on a burial ground but it could have, in my opinion been converted into an engineering school and or trade school of some sort of the unvalued youth to work for the MTA or something.

I wonder when are they going to actually do something with that old depot? I was around that area back in august and that depot is still there like its still there. I wouldn't be surprised if the MTA is on the premise in some way.

You’re a troll, so please for the love of god just stop before you make it bad for everyone on here. This is the only place where there are legit discussions about the MTA. @SevenEleven would it be possible to just ban this user?

I thought the SI redesign was just for the express bus routes and not local? The BRT was always a separate project from it.

Probably was gonna be a weird mess. The last governor was really going to make the MTA run like chickens with their heads cut off.

I don't know all about that, but I do know peeping on here years ago Brooklyn was always the borough or one of the boroughs to send buses to before they retired. That sort of thing was asking for a scandal, sending old buses to certain neighborhoods doesn't sit right with political leaders, especially when the fleet is more homogenized. But I do understand that the old private bus lines and depots needed older buses, even to this day.

Probably can be saved. EDIT: Hope the driver is ok.

Agreed, I just really hate the narrative how much America used to have good transit but never really see how much that its not really our transit but its our politics. Edit: I also wanted to say this. Our last governor was a prime example of this, there were lots of effort for the L train shutdown before the pandemic and I recall the MTA made a lot of strides for a bus network to help transport people from Manhattan to Brooklyn. The governor really derailed a lot of the plans in which the city already made changes to the streets and other projects to help transport people for vital repair. There was also a plan to demolish another bus depot in queens to make way to build an Air Train from the far end of queens to LGA, which wasn't feasible at all, nevertheless it would have made bus logistics hard since the Jamaica bus depot was in the planning stage to also be demolished. From what I have seen in the past is that the MTA is full of bureaucracy and it hinders the MTA a lot.

Interesting you mentioned the last part because anyone remember a few years ago before the pandemic where there was a scandal about the MTA dumping old buses into Brooklyn and the outer areas of the city i.e poorer neighborhoods? I remember on this forum it was some sort of thing mentioned how they usually get newer buses to the northern boroughs first and trickle them down. I'm not someone who is knowledgeable about the inner workings of how fleet of buses are distributed but I couldn't help but think the MTA shot themselves in the foot for that. The part you mentioned that our transit was a bunch of private companies before, it really bothers me when transit enthusiast, especially people who have a political intention behind themselves will say how the U.S. was good at building transit years ago but don't remember or even take into account it was private companies who built them. Really puts into insight on how much our transit agencies is filled with nothing but bureaucrats who will use transit against its intended purpose. I put it like this, would the Jamaica bus depot go through so much trouble to be rebuilt had it been a regular company instead of a transit agency? This isn't to make an argument for privatize transit vs public (its not) but the more I look into our transit issues in the states, it seem more of an issue about politics than capability.

I remember slightly how when I used to go into queens back in the day I would see some horrible rts’. I often wondered why queens had a lot more private bus routes?

Does anyone know how badly the private bus companies were before the MTA took them over? Was always curious as to why I rarely seen those kinds of buses around the city unlike the NYCT buses.