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  1. Two2Go

    LIRR Assistant Conductor Trainee

    Yes, you absolutely need to have your signals and definitions, as well as your buzzers, train horns, interlocking whistles and hand signs memorized perfectly. They're going to throw a lot more information at you once class starts, and they will not be happy if you can't even get something as simple as signals and definitions right. Get them down perfectly now, you're going to be happy you did in a couple years when it comes time to qualify. The first two days of class are just a generic new employee orientation. There might even be new hires from different departments in the room with you. On the third day (Friday), the actual class will start. You'll be given stuff to memorize verbatim over the weekend. On that Monday, you'll be quizzed on everything you've been given so far. It's not a test that can cause you to lose or job or anything like that, but it's a quiz for the instructor to see where you're at. The instructor will go totally nuts if people do badly on that quiz (and all the other quizzes that he or she will give out as class goes on). Remember, you only have about 5 weeks of class for the book of rules...it's a lot of information for such a short timeframe.
  2. Yes way, that is the rule. We absolutely are allowed to apply the value of a ticket to another ticket. If you want to go from Penn to Montauk on a Peak train (station price ticket would be $29.25) and you hand me 29 family fare tickets ($1 each), I would apply the value of those tickets ($29) to the value of the ticket you need ($29.25) and you would owe me $1 (25 cents rounded up to the next dollar). The only time this becomes an issue is with Monthly tickets, Weekly tickets, and Off-Peak 10 trip tickets. For these ticket types, we cannot determine a "per-ride value" (for monthly and weekly tickets, the reason should be obvious: the tickets can be used an unlimited number of times, so how would we know what each ride is worth? For the off-peak 10 trips, there is a discount built into the ticket, which is why we cannot just divide by 10). For these ticket types, we just charge you from the zone your ticket is valid for to the zone you are traveling to, rounded up to the next dollar. For example: If you have a monthly ticket from Zones 1 to 4 and you are traveling from Zones 7 to 1, you need to cover the difference between Zones 4 and 7. A ticket from 4 to 7 is $3.25 at the machine/eTix. You could either give me one of those tickets or pay me $4. It gets very interesting with a Zone 1 to 1 off-peak 10 trip. Let's say you have an off-peak 10 trip from Penn to Kew Gardens (both zone 1). You want to go from Penn to Jamaica (zone 3) on an off-peak train. We cannot punch a ride and apply the value of that ride to your trip to Jamaica, because off-peak 10 trips do not have a per-ride value. Instead, we would sell you a ticket from Penn (zone 1) to Jamaica (zone 3) at the station price (no on-board surcharge since you are in possession of a valid ticket) rounded to the next dollar. AND we would NOT punch a ride on your ten trip. So, you'd pay $8, which is 50 cents more than it would have cost at the machine due to rounding, but you wouldn't have a ride taken off the ten trip.
  3. Two2Go

    LIRR Assistant Conductor Trainee

    Honestly not sure, you'd have to check the postings for each of those jobs and see what the requirements are. Even for conductor, although college isn't required, it's definitely preferred. The vast majority of conductors that I've worked with have at least an associates degree.
  4. Two2Go

    LIRR Assistant Conductor Trainee

    No idea when the next posting will be, only HR knows that. From previous years, most postings seem to be done in the winter and spring, so December through March or so. That being said, they haven't done a class starting in June since 2013, so you can't always go by past practices to predict the future. Best advice is to just check the website daily and see if they post it. The last time it was posted was back in February, so who knows. Other jobs to look out for are CAMs and SAMs. CAMs (Car Appearance Maintainer) clean the trains and SAMs (Station Appearance Maintainers) clean the stations. They don't pay as much as conductor or engineer but they are good entry level positions. A lot of CAMs eventually apply for and become conductors.
  5. Two2Go

    LIRR Assistant Conductor Trainee

    24 new hires joined the roster today with a start date of 6/27/2018.
  6. Two2Go

    LIRR Assistant Conductor Trainee

    Classes always start on a Wednesday because the pay week for your paycheck runs from Wednesday through Tuesday. Every single one of us started with the railroad on a Wednesday.
  7. Two2Go

    LIRR Assistant Conductor Trainee

    It's more than enough time, provided that you use your time wisely. Part of the reason why they only give you 5 weeks is because they are testing your time management skills. Spend more time studying and less time on the internet and you'll be fine.
  8. Two2Go

    LIRR Assistant Conductor Trainee

    That's why I used Quizlet...the "Learn" function on Quizlet has you type out the definition over and over again, and it doesn't mark you right unless you get it 100% correct. It starts out by letting you see part of the card, or a hint if you need it, but it gets harder as you go. Flash cards are good for initially learning it, but I like typing it out to make sure I nail it 100%.
  9. Two2Go

    LIRR Assistant Conductor Trainee

    I did the signal names only for the first week. I had all of the signal names down 100% by the 9th day or so. I then moved onto the signal Indications and the Definitions. I did about 3 indications a day (some are obviously easier than others) and I tried to do 5 definitions a day. While doing the indications and definitions, I would still review the signal names to make sure I didn't forget any. I originally wanted to have everything down 100% by the 4th week, so my final week could just be review. I fell behind with some of the definitions, so I had to rush through them at the end. I wound up having 3 days for review, and I wound up getting a 100 on the test. Obviously, everyone studies and retains information differently. For me, I needed to do about 3-4 hours per day, every day, for those 5 weeks. The signal names are the most important since you have to get 100% correct. The test is literally just 25 random signal aspects (the pictures of signals) with a blank space next to each one for the Name and another blank space for the Indication. You have to write them out word for word verbatim to get them right. Then they give you 25 random definitions, just the term, you have to write out the definition word for word verbatim in the blank space provided. You can get 80% right on the signal INDICATIONS and 80% on the DEFINITIONS, but the SIGNAL NAMES must be 100% correct, which is why I focused on those first. I found the study tool on the CD to be useless. I signed up for a year's subscription to Quizlet and made my own private flash card sets on there, in addition to real paper flash cards. The only thing you need the CD for is the Quiz that you MUST e-mail back within 2 weeks (unless they don't do that anymore?).
  10. Two2Go

    LIRR Assistant Conductor Trainee

    Yes, that's the format. 25 definitions, and 25 signals. So, something like: BLOCK ____________________________ (picture of signal) NAME: ____________________________ INDICATION: ____________________________ You must get all of the signal names right. You must get at least 80% of the signal indications and the definitions right.
  11. Two2Go

    LIRR Assistant Conductor Trainee

    Working here, you hear lots of methods people use, and you pick and choose what works for you. Some people have tricks that make no sense to me, others have stuff that I like and I use. Whatever works for you...just pass the test!
  12. Two2Go

    LIRR Assistant Conductor Trainee

    Permanent Speed Restriction Sign is a diamond shape, not a square. Permanent = forever, hence "diamonds are forever". Permanent Speed Restriction Sign is also the only one of the speed signs that actually has an Indication, so it's probably the only one you would see on a S&D test. The only advice I can really give is to put everything on flashcards and have someone you trust quiz you over and over again. Go through the entire pile until you can get every single one correct every single time. You can't miss a signal name, so make you get those down 100% before you spend a lot of effort learning the indications and definitions.
  13. Two2Go

    LIRR Assistant Conductor Trainee

    They are the same, but don't memorize it that way. They could always change it if they wanted to. The phrase "diamonds are forever" might help you with memorizing these...
  14. The proposed station is approximately 1.86 miles from Woodside. Plenty of other station pairs are closer together than that. For example, Forest Hills and Kew Gardens are just 1.02 miles apart.
  15. Two2Go

    LIRR Assistant Conductor Trainee

    An instructor from the training department will start off by explaining the duties and responsibilities of an assistant conductor, and will briefly talk about things like how job assignments work, how vacation time works, sick days, etc. He or she will answer any questions anyone has. Then they will start showing you the signals and definitions. They will give out a huge packet of all the material, and they will go over each signal and each definition you are responsible for (everything in the packet). Usually they go around the room having people read each signal indication and definition out of the packet. They will give you pointers on some ways you can go about memorizing everything. They will probably say the phrase "word for word verbatim" at least 30 times. They will explain the format of the test you will be taking exactly 5 weeks later (and they will give you the date for that test, incase you aren't sure.) The class lasts about 6 hours. They aren't really there to "teach" you the S&D's, just to help you get familiarized with them and to answer any questions.


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