mrbrklyn

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zYrPLXdvFwg/U4T0CsLIAQI/AAAAAAAARP4/Lu3Wec8ZU8s/s1600/vignelli_new_york_subway_map_1972.jpg You see on this subway map there is no Sea Beach express between 38th and Pacific. There is no west end express either.

that was better, actually. The two lines overlap and the D goes to the Museum of Natual History and at Dekalb you can get anything but who would take the broadway line if the 6th avenue line is available :) The main reason to transfer to at Dekalb was to go to Downtown or downtown Brooklyn..

The D is running local over night in Brooklyn and that makes it possible.

I think the N (and the R) can't run through dekalb unless is it running through the tunnel and from the local pacific street track. In order to imrpove the N service after the Manhattan Bridge was finished, they made the N super express, 38th Street, Pacific, and over the bridge to Canal Street. That bumped the Q to the Broadway line express via Atlantic Avenue, Dekalb and Canal Street, otherwise there was no Bway access from the Brighton Line. The B was then added to 6th Avenue daytime and evenings. But when there is no B train, there is no 6th Avenue Access at all from Dekalb Avenue. I like W4th Street. This is the biggest reason why late night I end up taking a cab home from the Village. https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/caption.pl?/img/trackmap/pm_southeast_1.png

What is CI? Stillwell Avenue? that is a non-starter. No, because you removed the Q from Delalb - remember? Remember, BTW that the express at Pacific can't go to Dekalb, FWIW. That was the problem with the N (Sea Beach) train and the N without an express is a very long and slow ride.

so you eliminate broadway access fromt he brighton line? The problem at Dekalb is that when they switched the D and the B the station no longer functioned as a transport point for all routes, which is how it was designed to work before they decided to give the N train prioirty. You can't get a 6th Avenue train from there when there is no B train.

HAHAHAHAHAH never in out lifetime.

You eliminated the Bright Beach Express and misidentified the problems at Dekalb.

You can't trust the MTA to be honest in its accessement of anything. They have their own agenda and that is not the publics agendo, nor is it for the public good. The Controllers report is actually very generous. In truth, the SBS has shown to be a waste of money. The best part of it from the city's prespective is that it generates revenues from ticketing cars. I generally don't approve of that.

If they are really intent on wasting money on putting a through route, it has to go down Avenue P. What would be more useful would be a SBS B82 limited service that extended to JFK.

From the ground up it has been a bad idea and undoable. There shouldn't even be a B82. The limited is virtually unused compared to the local. Making a super limited is doubling down on a bad idea. They need to break that bus into two different routes, like it was originally before the budget cuts.