It seems most of the people in this thread either drive or (of course) use public transportation, but does anyone actually bike? If so, then you'd know that biker culture, consisting of not stopping at red lights, is rampant. Some do it more carefully than others, treating the red light as a stop sign and looking both ways to see if they could actually keep going or not, but imo the only way that will stop is from enforcement. You can throw as many lights and cameras as you want, but w/o enforcing the rules, incidents and the skipping of red lights will keep happening. The other question is... by how much should these rules be enforced? I imagine that if police began ticketing every biker who skipped a red light even if it wasn't a danger to others on the road, the bikers would get pretty annoyed. Not saying that they should be skipping lights, but it wouldn't be that big of a problem if they would be a bit more careful about it. Also, this begs the question--should bikers have to go through the same training and license acquisition as car drivers so that they would learn how to actually follow the rules of the road? lol
OK, but of those dozen biker fatalities, how do you know that the problem was not caused by a lack of care from the bikers themselves?