The problem with Piney Boy is that he has a good point about NICE being crap but he doesn't know what he's talking about when he talks about the buses themselves. He makes it seem like the buses are at fault when NICE should have spec'd their buses better. And then the young transit fans (who also have no idea about anything) start spreading false information. Piney has a screw loose judging from his past videos. As for Andy, that dude is just an embarrassment. I don't get how people can just run their mouths while filming these days. Lmao.