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According to : https://ppiaf.org/sites/ppiaf.org/files/documents/toolkits/UrbanBusToolkit/assets/3/3.1/35(vii)b.html A bus depot "is a transport system’s operating base. It provides parking accommodation, servicing and maintenance facilities for vehicles, an administrative function, and facilities for staff. A fully enclosed depot is sometimes referred to as a garage". All other MTA Bus and NYCT depots do have servicing facilities, although as I understand not all types of servicing and maintenance is available at all depots, hence the existence of specialized shops such as Zerega Avenue CMF. Therefore, one would be hard-pressed to call Mermaid, I mean Meredith Avenue a "depot". A "storage for buses" or perhaps a glorified parking lot (with a valet perhaps?) seems a more appropriate term to describe the facility.

Not to mention the fact, that Transsee is totally helpless when trying to locate any bus suffering from the Wonky Tracker Syndrome.

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Yes.

Thanks for the clarification. I kind of suspected that, but was not completely sure.

The timing of retirement does not seem to make much sense, at least to an outsider to the MTA, yet the taxpayer like myself. For example, the MCI flipdots long time ago removed from depots other that CP served for years until recently. Many of them stayed even longer due to delays in delivery of the Prevost units caused by the pandemic. Similarly, the 2004-2006 MCI CLs are limited to a few depots, but all of a sudden are transferred back to CAS, since there is a need for them, and they seem good enough for the job. The Orions are retired en masse from the NYCT depots, but are holding fine for now in the MTA bus depots. Is it the case that the MTA bus gets the best older buses and the NYCT keeps the worst ones? Not that I know of. The only logical explanation is that buses are retired when the new replacement units come, otherwise they are kept pretty much for as long as needed. Does that make economic sense? I would argue not always, but this may be a topic for another discussion.

Thanks great news. I wish more retired buses were preserved as well.

4 days in a shop does not seem like a long time. I have seen longer periods of inactivity time, at least based on information widely available. It would make sense for the MTA or NYCT to announce retirements of their fleet, so that the public can be informed.

While I am not a fan of those at all, perhaps it may be a good idea to implement drones to patrol bus lanes and bus stops. People park wherever they feel like and drive with total disregard to rules and safety and bus lanes and bus stops are no exceptions.

The B6 buses are overcrowded and could use bigger vehicles. However, this may be difficult to implement, considering that the B6 runs through areas that are nightmare to drive through, even for for a driver of a compact car (e.g. Midwood section along Ave J and Brooklyn College). Places infamous not only for heavy traffic but for large number of double parked cars that, as I imagine, makes it very difficult to drive a large vehicle though. I can imagine driving an artic through these places will be exponentially harder. Even now, at the B1 route where the UP artics are common, there is a stretch of route below the elevated D-Line running along the 86th Street between New Utrecht and Stilwell. In my humble opinion any BO who needs to drive an artic through this stretch should be paid double time while there.

I am confused. So the only type of information that belongs to this post is the type: "XXXX (bus number) from Depot A to Depot B"? What about historical information relevant to transfers in general? How is that a "nonsensical drivel"?

Thanks. It is good to know that these issues are limited to a few new units, but all or most of them are pulled out of service as a precaution. Somehow I got an impression that new problems are widespread. Speaking about the R179s, I relied on news coverage, where the new subway cars were simply described as "lemons". Apparently big overstatement, but many news presenters and writers or anchors like big and oversimplified words as they perhaps improve ratings. I read about the Grumman Flxible 870 disaster in NYC Transit decades ago. From what I was reading problems with this particular fleet looked like way bigger and more dangerous than the issues with the most recent Novas and Prevosts. But from what I read, even these Grummans were rebuild and successfully used by other transit agencies.

Thanks for your response. It looks like buying second hand, not too old of course (preowned certified) may be a way to go if one wants more reliability. From my experience, not with vehicles but computers, I have seen many hot and brand new systems have issues that get fixed with firmware and drivers updates. I wish one could apply the same strategies to deal with the "teething issues" on buses and subways.

Forgive me, but your response seems to defy common sense. Why would something "brand new, emphasis on brand new" develop problems serious enough to warrant pulling it OOS? Minor issues, I could understand. But big ones that can potentially result in injuries. In my humble opinion anything that is safety related should have been thoroughly and exhaustively tested by the manufacturer before sending it to the client/customer.

In response to the "AirTrain" topic posted by multiple members in multiple discussions, let me bring the latest from the NYT (Oct. 12, 2021, 9:05 p.m. ET). https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/12/nyregion/laguardia-airport-airtrain.html

Is this a temporary or permanent transfer?

Good news.

New traffic light might indeed help pedestrians cross the streets safer, but from the motorist's point of view they mostly slow down traffic. I have seen it right in my neighborhood. Most of the time one is forced to stop and wait for no reason other than not to run a red light.

Not correct. I have seen the video. The bus number showing there was 7364 and it was an articulated bus.

Pretty sad week for Ulmer Park. As per Citizen, another artic from UP, 7364 running on B1 (Oriental Blvd bound) was involved in an accident on 86th Street in Bath Beach not far from where another UP artic struck a pedestrian about a week ago. According to the Citizen, yesterday (10-02) around 2:22pm, the bus collided with an SUV. Video showed minimal damage to the SUV. As per the video and the comments section, the NYCT Bus driver went to the left side of the 86th Street in order to pass a double parked SUV. And while many "commentators" quickly jumped to conclusion and assigned a blame to the NYCT Bus driver, I am not buying this at all unless evidence from a camera or credible witnesses in a form of multiple coherent statements is provided. The 86th Street in Bath Beach, runs below elevated subway tracks (D-line) from New Utrecht to Stillwell. It is a nightmare to drive a big and wide vehicle there, so my heart goes to the MTA bus operators that have to drive there. I rode on the B1 through this stretch of 86th St and noticed that the bus would come almost to a halt while passing another bus or a truck driving in the opposite direction. Passing was slow and painful. The stretch of this street is treacherous as the subway tracks sit on the top of metal pillars sitting on top of concrete pyramid like bases that are quite wide at the bottom. While this is easy to notice while driving a regular car it may be harder to estimate the width of these columns while sitting high above the ground in an SUV, a bus or a truck. Earlier during the past week I saw B1s rerouted through Bath Avenue between 20th Avenue and some other street (did no see which one). Normally only B64 runs there, but it is served by regular 40 footers and not artics. Bath Avenue can be a headache as well. In both the 86th Street and Bath, one of the worst headaches is an infestation of double parked troublemakers delaying traffic and forcing other users of the road go into left side of the street to pass.

I'm not an expert, if that changes anything.

I'm eager to catch it or at least look at its picture. Where can I find more info? At this link: https://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php/Metropolitan_Transportation_Authority_7484-7850#7500-7599 there is nothing specific or unusual about vehicle 7575. Also, as a 45 footer shouldn't it have a tag axle?

I was only describing the location, where the topic of the question focused. A place in the map in the context of changes and events that have been going for a while. That's all.

Less than one subway stop away going toward Bay 50th Street, home of the now famous and fanned D99 route powered by buses from at least 3 Brooklyn Depots: Ulmer, Flatbush and the Ralph Kramden, I mean Jackie Gleason.

According to the Citizen app a pedestrian has been struck by the B1 artic (4786, UP) in Bensonhurst section of Brooklyn, at 2238 86th St. Cops and paramedics seen in the video.