Jump to content
Attention: In order to reply to messages, create topics, have access to other features of the community you must sign up for an account.

Amiri the subway guy

Member
  • Posts

    28
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Reputation

3 Neutral

Recent Profile Visitors

The recent visitors block is disabled and is not being shown to other users.

  1. Hello I have created a topic about how to expand the MTA system stay tuned
  2. I just leave this here https://metrodreamin.com/view/ejJSdkwzOHltdVZjWldyVjBLY05WQ1BJMW9qMXww
  3. I have made my map of my 2nd Avenue line proposal Here’s a link to the map I made https://metrodreamin.com/view/ejJSdkwzOHltdVZjWldyVjBLY05WQ1BJMW9qMXww Service patterns Local Express operates 24/7 operates weekdays only. Weekends and Late Nights use the and instead T train run between White Plains Rd Gun Hill Rd Bronx and Hanover Square Manhattan 3rd Avenue Local 2nd Avenue Local V train run between Wiallimsbrigde 210th st Bronx and Kings Highway Brooklyn 3rd Avenue Express 2nd Avenue Express Culver K train run between Whitestone Expressway 112 st Queens and Wilson Avenue Brooklyn Northern Blvd Local 2nd Avenue Express Williamburg local local what do you think
  4. Here’s a link to the map I made https://metrodreamin.com/view/ejJSdkwzOHltdVZjWldyVjBLY05WQ1BJMW9qMXww
  5. I have perfected my 2nd Avenue plan here’s my master plan So as we all know when phase 3 and 4 is open the T train will run all the way down to Hanover Square. But the problem with the 2nd Avenue line is the lack of express tracks, the lack of connections to other boroughs, and the fact that doesn’t have anywhere to be rerouted in case of emergencies. I feel when phase 2 opens the MTA will need to redraw the phase 3 and 4 (example connections to The Bronx Queens and Brooklyn and express tracks) Here some proposals I list The connection to Bronx, so for the Bronx connection build a new 4 track line across 3rd Avenue and Webster Avenue a very hugely populated place in the Bronx. This would be used for the T and V trains. The T train would be local 24/7 and the V train would be express operating weekdays only the express would than lower in 143rd st. The tunnel to Manhattan would be split like this The upper local level would go to Manhattan via Lincoln Avenue and the lower express level would go to Manhattan vis a tunnel underneath the 3rd Avenue bridge How to build express tracks Well with phase 1 build the way it is the express tracks would need to be build underneath but here’s a bonus way we can do this first build the express tracks with connections to 125th street the V train would be the express, Again weekdays only since there won’t really a demand for full time express in East Harlem. It would skip 116th 106th 96th and 86th streets and it would then head down to 2nd Avenue at 81st street than 72nd street would be build with connections to the lower level Yes 72nd street would be an express stop. You can said I’m proposing to make 2nd Avenue The east side version of Central Park west. For phase 2 the Q train would branch out running down via a 125th street crosstown line where it would continue to Broadway 125th street. And the Q and T could be swap depending on train length and/or demand. Now for queens so I propose building a new Northern Blvd line and creating a new 2nd Avenue line the K train.This new queens line would serve northern blvd which would reduce crowding on the 7 train. The northern blvd would be stop at 21st street queensbridge transferring to the F train and than the K train would run down a new tunnel down 62nd street than connecting to the lower level express tracks of 2nd Avenue line. Reasons for it connected to 21st street it would allow for the K train to be rerouted in case of emergencies switch places with one of the queens blvd lines if ridership demands it. Also 60th street tunnel would have connections to the upper local level of 2nd Avenue line reasons it would allow for an emergency reroute of a Broadway line and for the reroute of the W train via 2nd Avenue Local if ridership demands it. Now at 57th street the express rise up and 2nd Avenue would look like the traditional 4 track lines. So the K V is Express and the T is Local. So the K and V would skip 48th 34th 23rd 8th and Houston streets Now you may be wondering what to do for Brooklyn instead of reworking all of Chrystie street (cause as I said earlier that does far more harm than good) On Grand Street the K train would head down to a new line via a new tunnel in Williamsburg running down grand street Morgan Avenue and Wilson Avenue This new Williamsburg Bushwick would reduce crowding on the L and M trains The V train would be connected to the Culver line along side the F and G train. The V train would be the Express train while the F and G trains remain local. It would run up to church ave. And if the demand is high enough culver from 18th Avenue and kings Highway would be converted to 4 tracks to allow for a reliable express service on culver line. And the phase 4 would be build and it would have provisions for a new tunnel running down to Fulton street where the T train could be extended to Euclid Avenue maybe Hanover Square could have 4 tracks with the center tracks use for terminating trains and the outer tracks used to continuing to Brooklyn. This could allow for rerouted trains to run to Brooklyn without causing major delays T train run between White Plains Rd Gun Hill Rd Bronx and Hanover Square Manhattan 3rd Avenue Local 2nd Avenue Local V train run between Wiallimsbrigde 210th st Bronx and Kings Highway Brooklyn 3rd Avenue Express 2nd Avenue Express Culver K train run between Whitestone Expressway 112 st Queens and Wilson Avenue Brooklyn Northern Blvd Local 2nd Avenue Express Williamburg local local It not fully known how much people will benefit but I’m sure this will make the 2nd Avenue line more effective for example 3rd Avenue line would have a queens blvd/Central Park West style subway line. Northern Blvd and the Williamburg Bushwick lines would reduce pressure on other subway lines. A 4 track 2nd Avenue line would better address the needs of the east side of Manhattan Post your opinions on my plan and your own recommendations
  6. I have perfected my 2nd Avenue plan here’s my master plan So as we all know when phase 3 and 4 is open the T train will run all the way down to Hanover Square. But the problem with the 2nd Avenue line is the lack of express tracks, the lack of connections to other boroughs, and the fact that doesn’t have anywhere to be rerouted in case of emergencies. I feel when phase 2 opens the MTA will need to redraw the phase 3 and 4 (example connections to The Bronx Queens and Brooklyn and express tracks) Here some proposals I list The connection to Bronx, so for the Bronx connection build a new 4 track line across 3rd Avenue and Webster Avenue a very hugely populated place in the Bronx. This would be used for the T and V trains. The T train would be local 24/7 and the V train would be express operating weekdays only the express would than lower in 143rd st. The tunnel to Manhattan would be split like this The upper local level would go to Manhattan via Lincoln Avenue and the lower express level would go to Manhattan vis a tunnel underneath the 3rd Avenue bridge How to build express tracks Well with phase 1 build the way it is the express tracks would need to be build underneath but here’s a bonus way we can do this first build the express tracks with connections to 125th street the V train would be the express, Again weekdays only since there won’t really a demand for full time express in East Harlem. It would skip 116th 106th 96th and 86th streets and it would then head down to 2nd Avenue at 81st street than 72nd street would be build with connections to the lower level Yes 72nd street would be an express stop. You can said I’m proposing to make 2nd Avenue The east side version of Central Park west. For phase 2 the Q train would branch out running down via a 125th street crosstown line where it would continue to Broadway 125th street. And the Q and T could be swap depending on train length and/or demand. Now for queens so I propose building a new Northern Blvd line and creating a new 2nd Avenue line the K train.This new queens line would serve northern blvd which would reduce crowding on the 7 train. The northern blvd would be stop at 21st street queensbridge transferring to the F train and than the K train would run down a new tunnel down 62nd street than connecting to the lower level express tracks of 2nd Avenue line. Reasons for it connected to 21st street it would allow for the K train to be rerouted in case of emergencies switch places with one of the queens blvd lines if ridership demands it. Also 60th street tunnel would have connections to the upper local level of 2nd Avenue line reasons it would allow for an emergency reroute of a Broadway line and for the reroute of the W train via 2nd Avenue Local if ridership demands it. Now at 57th street the express rise up and 2nd Avenue would look like the traditional 4 track lines. So the K V is Express and the T is Local. So the K and V would skip 48th 34th 23rd 8th and Houston streets Now you may be wondering what to do for Brooklyn instead of reworking all of Chrystie street (cause as I said earlier that does far more harm than good) On Grand Street the K train would head down to a new line via a new tunnel in Williamsburg running down grand street Morgan Avenue and Wilson Avenue This new Williamsburg Bushwick would reduce crowding on the L and M trains The V train would be connected to the Culver line along side the F and G train. The V train would be the Express train while the F and G trains remain local. It would run up to church ave. And if the demand is high enough culver from 18th Avenue and kings Highway would be converted to 4 tracks to allow for a reliable express service on culver line. And the phase 4 would be build and it would have provisions for a new tunnel running down to Fulton street where the T train could be extended to Euclid Avenue maybe Hanover Square could have 4 tracks with the center tracks use for terminating trains and the outer tracks used to continuing to Brooklyn. This could allow for rerouted trains to run to Brooklyn without causing major delays T train run between White Plains Rd Gun Hill Rd Bronx and Hanover Square Manhattan 3rd Avenue Local 2nd Avenue Local V train run between Wiallimsbrigde 210th st Bronx and Kings Highway Brooklyn 3rd Avenue Express 2nd Avenue Express Culver K train run between Whitestone Expressway 112 st Queens and Wilson Avenue Brooklyn Northern Blvd Local 2nd Avenue Express Williamburg local local It not fully known how much people will benefit but I’m sure this will make the 2nd Avenue line more effective Post your opinions on my plan and your own recommendations
  7. So a lot of people have been going on about what to do with phase 3 and phase 4 of 2nd Avenue line A whole bunch of people believe that the 2nd Avenue line should be connected to the Manhattan Bridge and two services from there take over for the B and D in Brooklyn. The B and D would then replace the J/Z and M trains over the Williamsburg Bridge. The J would then be a downtown shuttle from Delancey Street to Broad Street, but operate full length during rush hour. Vanshnookenraggen himself once propose to split the line at Broadway Junction and build a new underground section from Broadway Junction to Cypress Hills, eliminating the two sharp curves that slow things down. Of the B and D via Williamsburg Bridge, one would follow the M route and the other go to Broadway Junction and end there. With a connection to the IND Fulton Street Line, the C could take over J service from Jamaica Center to Broadway Junction, then run express with the A into Manhattan. To replace the C, it would be possible to connect the Montague Street tunnel into Fulton Street so the W could go there. Well let me go on a little rant on every wrong with this plan For starters rerouting the B and D to Williamburg I don’t think it a good idea because Brooklyn riders would lose access to the 6th ave line and if reroutings are needed on 6th ave service the entire service would be screwed since at least the current lay out for rerouting allow for trains to go to Coney Island either way. Example F train via west end D train via culver No to mention that this plan won’t even allow for the Broadway line to be rerouted to 6th Avenue in case of emergencies. What if another Manhattan Bridge reconstruction project is needed example how that would be impacted see? This is when putting the 2nd Avenue line on the Manhattan Bridge really becomes a problem Further more many riders would piss because they don’t want to lose 6th Ave service to Coney Island or lose access to lower Manhattan Nassau in Williamsburg. Not to mention that Jamaica line can’t handle 75 foot long train cars If necessary we should extend a 2nd ave line via a new tunnel to Williamburg. That would require multiple shut downs. And you be pissing off a lot of grand Concourse riders trying to get to Coney Island. The L and M are crowded, but are not that overwhelmed therefore do not justify letting riders suffer. spliting the line does not better Address the needs of Williamburg in fact it worsens things off for starters people would be furious as they would lose one sat ride from Jamaica center to Williamburg. Than you have Fulton street connection which would be too expensive for the conversation to happen. And the J train becoming a shuttle basically destroys service on Williamburg since you are cutting off service from lower Manhattan and dont bring up the “riders want midtown more than lower Manhattan argument” cause demand for lower Manhattan is just as high have y’all even rode the J/Z before lower Manhattan has seen just as much Gentrification as midtown did and yes we need a phase 4. Lower Manhattan is likely to get more job opportunities with the World Trade Center and rapid growth Phase 4 would has provision for a tunnel to Fulton street. Williamburg is a smaller priority for the 2nd Avenue project so just route a 2nd Avenue line to Williamburg via a new tunnel. Routing a 2nd Avenue line to Williamburg should reduce crowding on the L and M trains So that plan will not work out at all removing the (B)(D) from the Manhattan bridge would cause Coney Island riders to lose access to the 6th Avenue Central Park West and Grand Concourse and removing the (J)(Z) from Williamsburg Bridge would cause riders to lose access to Nassau st line AKA the only connecting to lower Manhattan. Just leave the B D on Manhattan bridge the way it is just leave the J M Z on Williamburg the way it is the riders demand it stays like that. The ideal is to improve realible on the J/Z trains not remove it. Instead of that here is a realistic way of improving the Jamaica line Expanding all BMT eastern division to 10 cars Build a Union Ave station with connections to the G train Build a flying junction on Myrtle Avenue for the M train Replace the Broadway junction and Crescent Street stations with a new straight line on Jamaica Avenue Build a center track for peak way service Covert the Z train to peak way express and J train fully local Extend the J/Z to Hillside And there that how we can improve Williamburg without doing irreversible damage to the entire mta system this is my opinion
  8. Well wasn’t phase 2 just for 3 tracks. If it was meant for 4 tracks the express tracks would likely have to go below between 106th and 96th streets. So having it it underneath would be better and it also makes it easier for the Q train to branch out from the upper level.
  9. The express train would skip 116th 106th 96th and 86th streets 96th street would have provisions to be converted into an express stop just in case
  10. I was thinking the express tracks can go underneath phase 1 and 2 while they rise up on 55th street
  11. When where the phase 1 and 2 additional two tracks would’ve gone anyway
  12. Here’s how the rolling stock might look like later R262s R142s R142As R142s R262s R142As R142s R262s R188s 42 street shuttle R262s
  13. Just build phase 4 with provision for a new tunnel to Fulton st why it that so complicated

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.