Phantom909

why is it an over reaction. ive never ever, nor would i ever say i hate this country. since he is an ultra liberal who is a big supporter of obama, and obama has said he wants to "fundamentally chamge America' You dont fundamentally change anything you love, you might tweek it to make it better, you only fundamentally change what you dont like or hate, so therefore it is not an over reaction joe

how much of the couple of billion dollars you have for this joe

well maybe if the great charlene obernaur would do her thing at jobs with justice, and get you a job so you could afford the lirr, but then why would she, you do her bidding for her for the sham libru bitching about any little thing that goes wrong joe

thanksgiving is always the 4th thursday in november joe

well if all the people who said they were moving out of the country if bush won, we wouldnt have obama today, which in my opinion would be perfect. now for the secession movement, there is nothing in the constitution that allows or forbids secession. now when the south seceded prior to the civil war, they used the part of the declaraton of independence that says "Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it and to institute new government." Lincoln did not agree with that, he used a part of the Articles of confederation which said 'articles of Confederation and perpetual union between the states of new hampshire, massachusetts-bay, Rhode island and Providence plantations,connecticuit, New york, New jersey,pennsylvania, Delaware, maryland,, virginia, North carolina, South Carolina and Georgia" Now in the 1869 Supreme Court Decision in Texas v White, which was about Texas selling US Government Bonds that they held, during the civil war, texas sold them, In the majority opinion by chief Justice Solomon Chase, who was Secretary of the Treasury in the Lincoln administration, chase used Lincoln`s interpretation of the constitution saying that the phrase "to form a more perfect union" meant what the Articles of Confederation said by calling the union perpetual. he wrote that since texas entered a perpetual union, the secession was unconstitutional so therefore they were still a part of the Union, during the Civil War so any decision by Texas, excluding civil cases like marraiges, civil matters,, etc were null and void. Many constitutional scholars are troubled by the decision because while texas used a part of a document that s an official government document (The Declaration) Chase used a part of a document that is not an official document (The articles) and took a liberal interpretation of the phrase "a more perfect union" That said, in 1870, President Grant signed an act that re-admitted Texas to the Union. so we have 2 branches of the federal government contradicting each other. Now In my opinion, states that have secession movements, that use territory that was either purchased or annexed by the United States cant secede because the land was part of the United states already before that state entered the union. Texas on the other hand is different. Texas was an independent country from 1836-1845 before they voluntarilly joined the union. Therefore the Texas secession movement claims that since Texas joined voluntarilly, they can leave voluntarilly. it will be interesting to see what happens. joe

one of the funniest tv skits ever. joe

since i gave 3 males, i should also give 3 females with magnificent voices from the same period http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkMhWQgkZ8c http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A2lD_vOS7k joe

well i see some good older songs being posted here so ill put up a few of my faves all from the late 60`s sung by people who have all passed on, but had magnificent voices. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRNTQvXSsfA joe

agreed, but thats the way so called journalism works today. they sit on their high horses everyday and pick out who to take down and who to prop up everyday. its summed up perfectlly in a line from the movie "The Natural" when the reporter max mercy (played by robert duvall) when he said to roy hobbs (played by robert redford) "It doesnt matter, whether youre a hero or a goat today, youre gonna make me a great story tomorrow" joe

here ya go http://suffolktransithistory.angelfire.com/retired-buses.html joe

ill donate too without bringing it up. i just wish the ones who complain can come up with a feasible plan. joe

Nassau County is $310,000,000 in debt, where would the money be coming from? Joe

define "F*cking ridiculous amount' Joe

my last sentence is a simple one, as you have seen, trainmaster5 and i have had a spirited debate, mostly about FDR, we both have bought up the same points, which we both learned in new york city high schools, even though we disagree on FDT`s legacy, i respect his views because he processed his opinions, like i did mine, with all the facts that were given to us, my point was, if you werent taught all the facts, like we were, then basically you werent taught, you were indoctrinated into what the education system wants you to know, that sir is a crime. joe

thats my whole point, kids today arent taught about our history, thats a crime in my opinion, if the kids dont know all history and just taught snippets, they arent equipped to make their own judgements. thats the way education and big government like it joe

i guess ive been around as long as you, i graduated richmond hill hs in queens in 1975. but did you notice how all the yungins wont even comment on our back and forth, thats troubling to me. Joe

if you are aware of the constitution and its meaning then you know state and individual rights are not propaganda, the us constitution is not a "living" document. It is the blueprint of this country. It can be changed ONLY by the Ammendment process. The founders understood that in the future, changes would be needed, but when politicians overstep the bounds put on them by the Constitution, that is tyranny. Every elected official takes an oath to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." When they overstep the authority that is specifically given to them by the constitution, they have violated that oath. Yes we did not become a totalitarian society, yet FDR sowed the seeds that have for the past 80 years have been growing to become one. If you know history, then you know the first 2 New Deal laws that he pushed, The Agricultural Adjustment Act of 1933 and the National Industrial Act of 1933 were both ruled Unconstitutional by the court. so when the Social Security case went to the court, FDR threatened the Court by saying that if it was not passed he would have Congress, which he had control of, to allow him to add one justice to the court for every justice on the court at the time that was over 60 and refused to retire. That, if he was given the authority wouldve given FDR 6 more justices to raise the court to 15 and become basically a rubber stamp to anything FDR wanted/ if that isnt totalitarianesque, then what is? If you also know history, you will know who Norman Thomas is, for those who dont, he was the Socialist Party of Americas Presidential Candidate during FDR`s years. He said this when he retired: "the American people will never knowingly adopt socialism,but under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened" Prophetic Words? If you really studied FDR, and are watching President Obama now, you will see that he is trying to make this statement come true. There is a lot of FDR in Obama, that is why IMO he must be voted out this year. BTW, the nyc board of Education named a High School after Thomas, if you visit the schools website, no mention of him being a Socialist is made. And you wonder why kids today arent being taught history today, thats a good example right there Joe

I dont agree with all 10 choices in the video, I would definatelly, include Lincoln and JFK in there. Teddy Roosevelt couldve been in there except for the 1906 Imperial cruise disaster where most historians would cite as the fuse that directllly led to the Pacific Theatre of WWII. IMO FDR should be included in the bottom 10 of US Presidents. A lot of economists have said that FDR`s policies prolonged the Great Depression and we did not come out of it until WWII. His selling of Social Security as an "insurance" policy to the American people was an out and out lie. When it was argued to the Supreme Court in the 1937 Helvering v Davis case, social Security was argued as a direct tax, not insurance, which would go into the General Treasury. Thats why it was found constitutional because of the 16th Ammendment You`ll hear a lot of politicians today talk about the "Social Security Lockbox" There is, never has been or ever will be a lockbox. All the money that has been collected through the years in FICA taxes have been spent. As of right now, social Security is $15.7 trillion dollars in the red in unfunded liabilities. This in the Private sector would be known as a Ponzi Scheme.Those are only 2 examples of why FDR doesnt belong, I have more if you are interested because I know they dont teach this in schools today, they did when I was in school. That is NOT propaganda. the 9th and 10th Ammendments of the US Constitution clearly state it 9th Ammendment: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. 10th Ammendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. These 2 ammendments were very important to the Founding fathers and to the States. The federal Government did not create the states, the states created the Federal Government. These were important to them to keep the Federal Government from becoming too powerful. Through our history these have been abused by Democrats, Republicans, Whigs and every other party. And that is one reason that the country is in a $15.8 trillion dollar debt disaster. Joe