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  1. I hate the fact that I always see an R32 deadheading all the way from Jamaica Center to the East New York yard/shop and I sometimes wait like 8 minutes before a train arrives on the Manhattan-bound track. Are those dispatchers still removing an SMEE train from service at Jamaica Center regardless that the line is mostly SMEE or what?

     

     

    Yes they do. Those are the morning put-ins heading back to the yard for the afternoon put-outs

    ^ What he said & it isn't just the (J)(Z), almost every line except shuttles have dead heads because as FP said they are "put-ins" & short turns. Also there is truth in what you say because the "minority" trains mostly do get removed from service service permitting happened with the 32 (B) a lot back in 2009/10, as well as with the (V). But back on topic.

  2. I had to check to see if the 32s were ever on the M. It turns out there were, way back in the early 80s if nycsubway.org is any indication.

    They've run on every B-division line/route except the (7) much like the R-44's ran on most B-division lines except the Eastern Division. I do remember seeing photos from the 90's to early 2000's of the (M) running 32's after being re-built but was probably temporary.

  3. You have proof of the r32 to go with you to m line

    It's always tentative because anything may change or happen, as we've heard with the 32/160 swap with the (C) and (J) before the 1st year people were asking asking asking for proof saying liar this liar that it won't happen, it will happen. Nothing is certain. Either way it seems the (M) will run different equipment than the regular.

     

    Lol thnx guy! But I cant wait for a couple sets to go on the (M) . THAT would get A LOT of railfans attention!

    It's been a while since 143's and 32's roamed the (M) but not ages for the 143 as it's been less than a decade.(for weekends)

     
  4. Alright 1)all the stuff about the NTTS not being able the Rockaways is a bunch of bull I've seen other NTTS like R143s, R142as testing in and out of the Rockaways and the we're just fine 2) the R46s don't meet the demands for the (A) they suck on the (A) the R44s were actually faster and better. 3)They can run other equipment out there other than R46s out there the R46s are so boring on the (A) nowadays

    I can make you a damn near promise that the (A) will be fully NTT's by 2035 if not the (A) then every letter line. Why 2035? Well its an estimate since the Apple gets a share of older equipment and by that time the R-68/A's will be nearly 50 years old if they're still around some will be younger of course but pending how they shape up the next few years. If that makes you happy. So in 2025 the R-68/A's will be approaching 40(some) and in 2018-19 all will be in their 40's

  5. How come the r-142's number plate 6301-6310, 6311-6313, and 6326-6327 have different font than the rest of the cars?

    R-142 6301-6310 is the 1st set built which is a 1999 model and has original font. You'll see very few subway cars like that around the system with different fonts on their number boards. I believe there is a R-68, and R-32 pair around.

  6. FYI, it's not illegal here to ask questions, second, I ride the (4) almost every day.

    He rides the (4) almost every day but doesn't know how the line operates. That makes perfect sense. That's like saying you ride the (F) everyday but didn't know some trains terminate at Kings Hwy. And I'm pointing out the obvious. The (4) terminating on the northern side other than Woodlawn is on the schedule. So read it!

  7. Was there some kind of delay on the Lex Line today?

     

    I saw several (5) trains today using cars from the (4), going to E 180 St. But these trains seemed to be extra trains, in addition to the normal trains going to Dyre Av. I saw one of them running local. I was on a (4) train that terminated at Bowling Green (countdown clock said it was terminating at Wall St though, the actual train itself was signed up as running to Brooklyn Bridge), that  (4) train left Bowling Green and came back on the uptown track as a (5). That (4) didn't actually spend any time fumigating at Bowling Green; it left almost right away... there were still some passengers on the train as it left to go to the loop! 

    For the (4) short turning I would say for extra service for the Yankee Games. They run from 161st St to Bowling Green or BB usually. It's no different than the (D) because they short turn trains at WTC or LES-2nd Av.

  8. Since WHEN!?

    Maybe you should get out more and experience things. The (4) during rush hours and off peak hours sometimes terminates at Burnside or Bedford Park Blvd. It is on the schedule and has been for the past 5-6 years. In the morning between 9 and 11 am, several (4) trains run exp from 167th to Burnside via exp track. They then deadhead uptown. In the evening anywhere between 5 and 8 or 9 pm the samething happens. The other alternative is two or 3 (4)'s that terminate at Bedford Pk Blvd that run via local then go to the yard.

  9. Except late nights when the (C) doesn't run LOL.

    The (C) runs from about 5am-11pm on a consistent schedule, whereas if 32's are on the (Z) they could be running from 7am-9am then 5-7pm so there is more time to maintain and less equipment maintained supposing most (Z)'s go OOS, compared to the (C).

  10. Of course, only 2 sets on the (J) don't break down *as often* as those on the (C), because those 2 sets on the (J) aren't always in service full-time.. 

     

     

    I don't know where you're getting your sources about the breakdowns and deferred maintenance from, but I hope you're not simply just basing it on the way you're riding the train.

    You got your answer from your own post about the breakdowns. The sets on the (J) don't run ALL day as they do on the (C). I mean the more you use something the more it breaks down right whether its a pair of shoes or machinery.  Also maintaining less equipment is more efficient. 

  11. Actually, The (A)(C)(E) station, though technically part of the Times Square complex is a block away from the rest of the complex and doesn't come close to where the problem is, so that station would likely be unaffected EXCEPT for not being able to transfer to other lines from there (as was the case without paying again before the '90s).  

    Regardless of how "close" the what if situation is, the truth in the matter is it is still 1 BIG station, with a fire smoke will travel quite a ways especially in a station/tunnel. My point is at a big complex you're suspending service for the Broadway/7th Av lines but allowing the 8th Av lines to stop there. What do those passengers do that want to access the Broadway/7th Av/Shuttle/7 line? (rhetorical) . I would think it would be safe for trains to bypass 42nd St on the 8th Av line trains.

  12. Due to a track Fire at Forest Hills - 71 Ave and Times Square 42 Street on the shuttle, the fire is slowly creeping towards the mezzanine. Smoke is everywhere, and the NYPD has shut down both stations so no trains can pass through.

     

    Reroute!

    I believe you guys left out that the fact Times Sq includes Port-Authority therefore the (A)(C)(E) should be included since they are actually one station.

  13. At 67 Av (IND QBL) during the middle of the night, a structural fault causes the mezzanine and street to collapse into the tunnel, blocking access to Jamaica Yard. Reroute, and figure out how to deal with the lack of trains. Trucking them elsewhere is not acceptable for this scenario.

     

    P.S. Q60 SBS, if for whatever reason this comes to mind, is not allowed

    I am just confused to why and how the (A)(B)(G) are affected. Anyways my proposal would be:

    (E) World Trade Center - Jackson Heights via local,

    (F) Coney Island - Jackson Heights

    (M) terminates at 57th St - 6th

    (R) Bay Ridge to Queens Plaza (off peak), rush hours runs to Jackson Heights.

    There shouldn't be a need for extra trains with the lack of trains already but to add in: 3 (B) trains during rush hours will run via QBL via 53rd St/QBL Exp.

  14. (F) moves back to 53rd Street tunnel

    (G) returns to running to 71st-Continental until further notice.

    (M) runs to 57th Street-6th Avenue at ALL TIMES (returns to being a terminal)

    Shuttle between 57th/6th and 63rd Street/Lex.

     

     

    (G) to continental, (F) via 53, (M) to 57. no shuttles - just shut down Lex/63 or send some (Q) trains there and have them use the switch to access the usable platforms

     

     

    During rush hours:

    M To 57th St

    F Via 53rd St and QBL

     

    Other times, normal service except the (F) still goes via 53rd St.

    You guys just repeated each other. So I agree with the idea. Whats the next situation for "What If"?

  15. All tunnels in the NYC area have to be closed for emergency repairs following the aftermath of Hurricane iPhone. The repairs will take at least 2 weeks.

     

    Reroute!

    Whatever this should be dumb. I agree with the person who said suspend everything. It's pointless for elevated lines to run for only 5 stops or so. 

  16. A person desides to be stupid and look at the 6 av express trains from the uptown (6) platform and falls down when he leaned over the rail there. Due to an investigation, no trains are allowed through the Broadway-Lafayette station. Reroute/suspend away.

    (4) Woodlawn to Grand Central via local

    (5) re-routed via 7th Av Line

    (6) terminates at 125th St

     

    (B) Brighton Beach to 57th St Broadway

    (D) re-routed via Culver to Jay St then via (A) up through 59th St

    (F) re-routed via Crosstown N/B, S/B re-routed via 8th Av after W4th then resuming normal service in Brooklyn

    (M) Continental to 34th St & Chambers St to Metropolitan

  17. More or less a plan 5...sounds like fun lol

     

    (1) 96 St to South Ferry

    (2) 3 Av-149 St to Flatbush Av via local

    (3) suspended

    (4) 149 St-Concourse to Utica Av...Express in Manhattan, Local in Brooklyn

    (5) Suspended

    (6) 3 Av-138 St to Brooklyn Bridge

    (7) suspended (not much you can do)

    (A) 207 St to Euclid Av, local in Brooklyn

    (B) suspended

    (C) 168 St to Hoyt-Schermerhorn (its possible, relay via A5 track at Lafayette)

    (D) 205 St to Bway-Lafayette

    (E) via Queens Blvd local

    (F) via Queens Blvd Local to Jay St (relay via Bergen lower)

    (G) Court Sq to Bergen St

    (J) Essex St to Broad St

    (L) 8 Av to Myrtle-Wyckoff

    (M) suspended

    (N) Lex-59 St to Bay Ridge-95 St via Whitehall and 4 Av local

    (Q) suspended

    (R) Suspended

    (Z) Suspended (obviously lol)

     

    42 St shuttle runs at all times, all other shuttles suspended

    I agree with the majority but if it's obviously a Plan 5 all services will be local. Therefore I 100% agree with the IRT. However with the B-division (excluding the 7) of course I'd change:

    (A) fully local To/from Euclid.

    (C) suspended

    (D) 205th to 2nd Av via 6th Av local.

    (N) Bay Ridge to Continental but I think Lex-59th is good as you stated,

  18. Next:

    A derailment has taken out the West 8th Street (Q)(F) station and it can not be used or passed through. Also, 86 Street-Gravesand has suffered structural damage and will take at least a year to fix.

     

    Reroute/Suspend.

     

     

    (N) via West End, shuttle bus

    (Q) to Brighton Beach, (B) to Kings Hwy

    (F) to Av X

    I agree with the (F) to Av X but I would disagree with the (N) via West End.

    (N) To Kings Hwy via Sea Beach.

    (Q) via West End Exp

    (B) To Brighton Beach via local.

  19. Nice, 500 pages of this thread.

     

    Next: Due to a Derailment at Queensboro Plaza, its upper level (both tracks) is unuseable.

    Where to do the (N) / (Q) / (7) go?

    The (7) is suspended entirely West of 74th St-Broadway, but runs between 74th St and Flushing. Shuttle buses will replace service as well as LIRR cross accommodations.

     

    The Astoria section is suspended, and shuttle buses will run between Astoria and 59th St-Lex.

    The (N) however runs between Coney Island and 57th St, while the (Q) runs via Queens Blvd to Continental.

  20. Since no one has posted a scenario in the past few days...

     

    A derailment has occurred north of Herald Square on the 6th Avenue line, involving a northbound (D) train. The crossover north of the station changed at the last second when the train's second part of the car was passing it.

     

    Reroute, shuttle bus, or detour away!

    Southbound service is unaffected, and I would suppose a derailment would case the N/B local to be disrupted.

    Northbound (B) runs to 57th St-7th Av. (B)ravo's north of the derailment will run terminate at 145th and have a normal trip to Brighton and it will run between BB and 57th St.7th.

    Northbound (D) trains will run between Coney Island and 205th St via Culver to Jay St, then via (A) line to 59th continuing to the Bronx.

    Northbound (M) trains will run via shuttle, trains north of the derailment on the QBL will run between Continental and WTC via 8th Av Line.

    Northbound (F) trains will run via (A) line after Jay St.

     

    In a nutshell:

    (B) 57th St-7th Av Broadway - Brighton Beach.

    (D) Coney Island to Norwood via Culver Exp, via (A) line resuming normal service after 59th.

    (M) Shuttle, Continental to WTC via 6th Av/63rd St to W4th then via (E) line.

    (F) via (A) after Jay St, then via 53rd St.

  21. A train catches fire at 59 Street Columbus Circle on the (A) platform. The station can not be used or be passed through.

     

    Also, a R160 has lost its brakes and rammed into a R68 at Brighton Beach, throwing trains parts everywhere. This will take a month to fix as the collision has broken the rails, damaged the station structure and so forth.

     

    Reroute!

    (A) runs between 207th and 125th via local. Also between Far Rockaway and Penn Station via local.

    (C) suspended.

    (B) runs between 57th-7th Av and Kings Hwy.

    (D) runs between 205th and 145th, also 34th St-Herald Sq and Coney Island.

  22. Track fire at West 4th St on the downtown 8th av tracks. Uptown tracks are unusable because of the fire. Signal problems at 42 St-Bryant Park delaying northbound local trains. Plus sick passenger at 59th St on the downtown express tracks. It's rush hour btw.

     

    EDIT: Downtown switches south of W4 can't be used.. Uptown switches can be used.

     

    Reroute, (A)(B)(C)(D)(E)(F)(M)

    All N/B service remains normal.

    For S/B service,

    (A) Normal service since there isn't any switches on the express after W4 the (A)'s trip is unaffected.

    (C) runs via 8th Av Express after 59th St.

    (E) terminates at Whitehall St runs via (R) line after Queens Plaza

    (B) suspended

    (D) Runs in two sections between 205th and Herald Sq. Coney Island to 36th St. Thats where people can transfer to the (N)(R) for (D) at Herald Sq.

    (F) runs via Crosstown S/B,normal service N/B.

    (M) Regular service N/B, S/B terminates at W4th since the switches are usable north of the station.

  23. (B) to 145th St.

    (D) to Fordham Rd.

    (4) to Burnside Av. or Kingsbridge since there's switches after the station N/B.

     

    Was it so hard?

    An addition to shuttle buses providing service between Woodlawn/Norwood to south stations.

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