Novabus 5000

JFK is not confirmed to get 179 buses. Deployment as of this week still has JFK at 153, 26 buses unassigned, and LGA to get 83.

No assignments yet.

5008 is at Zerega.

Pending due to their age is not a reason. Unless you have seen them towed out or at the very least no farebox (which is usually an indicator but not the final word) then I wouldn't say its 100% confirmed.

An ongoing situation is requiring buses from KB to be temporarily parked at Gun Hill and Manhattanville. No need to report these loans in the event you see KB buses on MHV/GH lines and vice versa for the next 24-48 hours.

9314 to JFK.

CP is not getting anything new at least for the next two years. No CNGs on order I'm not sure where that info came from, but as per the current deployment sheet, the allotment is still as follows, and has not been changed: LGA (40), JFK (42), ECH (34).

The buses will be going to MTA NYC Bus if acquired, not MTAB.

Likely a loan. 8480 was there as well.

Well as of yesterday the deployment on the XDs is still 42 JFK, 40 LGA, 34 ECH.

Do you have proof of this information? Or is this speculation? FR and JFK share a pool of buses, and I can't imagine they will specifically maintain a requirement of 20 buses per depot.

(Disregard)

Once again, I would refrain from saying which buses will go to which depots. As we have seen with the most recent LFS diesel and hybrid orders, the buses do not get delivered in order. All we know is what is slated for each depot. No fleet numbers have been confirmed.

Not confirmed. The XE40 assignments have not yet been posted, so anything going around is pure speculation.

The XE40 order is delayed 9 months to March 2024. After the situation at CT Transit, MTA requested NFI install a warning device to go off if the batteries are overheating or are experiencing technical issues. NFI is in the development of said tech. MTA requested the entire order to be delayed and the buses to have the tech new from the factory versus delivering the buses now and retrofitting them once the tech is available. NFI said if the order is delayed, MTA has to pay because of “inflationary costs”. The “adjusted inflationary cost” is an additional $79,890 per bus.

Not true. The MTA posted photos today of it still at UP.

No, not at this time. No, it does not. Those were part of the 2020-2024 capital program orders.

Below is what the MTA has planned for future bus orders over next three capital programs. Of course these are extremely preliminary based on available funding, service demands, and the infrastructure needed to support these vehicles. As such, this is subject to change. 2025-2029 Capital Program NYCT: 1. 500 new 40-foot transit buses, power source TBD. 2. 700 new 40-foot transit buses, all-electric. 3. 335 new 60-foot transit buses, power source TBD. 4. 200 new 60-foot transit buses, all-electric. 5. 300 new 45-foot express buses, Power source TBD. 6. 50 new 45-foot express buses, all-electric. MTA Bus: 7. 50 new 40-foot transit buses, all-electric. 8. 90-new 60-foot transit buses, power source TBD. 2030-2034 Capital Program: NYCT: 9. 1,305 new 40-foot transit buses, all-electric. 10. 140 new 60-foot transit buses, all-electric. 11. 75 new 45-foot express buses, all-electric. MTA Bus: 12. 150 new 40-foot transit buses, all-electric. 13. 55 new 60-foot transit buses, all-electric. 14. 260 new 45-foot express buses, all-electric. 2035-2039 Capital Program NYCT: 15. 1,310 new 40-foot transit buses, all-electric. 16. 670 new 60-foot transit buses, all-electric. 17. 445 new 45-foot express buses, all-electric. MTA Bus: 18. 570 new 40-foot transit buses, all-electric. 19. 90 new 60-foot transit buses, all-electric. 20. 250 new 45-foot express buses, all-electric.

Until it sees service on a BP line, wouldn't count it. They're literally about to get an entire batch, so this is more then likely training as originally stated.

I wouldn’t start quoting fleet numbers yet. We have clearly seen in recent LFS orders the buses are never consecutively delivered in batches to the assigned depots. Assignments were posted a few months ago: MTA Bus Novabus LFS order: 8964-9271 136 JFK 46 BP 100 LGA, 26 TBD MTA Bus New Flyer XD40 order: 9282-9387 42 to JFK 34 to ECH 40 to LGA

Temporary until ECH gets its new batch of XD40s. I'm sure the buses may get rotated, but now that the NF is the standard training bus, they must have a few at ECH for new hires completing their NY State CDL driving test. I'd also presume that may be why ECH is getting a few extra buses to accommodate training and regular service.

This is in correct. Assignments for the XE40s have not been determined yet.

It was not purchased. The FDNY will complete training activities and then the bus will be returned to ECH until it is transported for scrap. They did the same thing with 4947 and 5054.

Can confirm. Here is a photo when it was at KB:

3357 burned up this morning, safe to say it’s done.