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I was thinking why that train has been there since 8?  They still haven’t said this is a derailment on their site. 

I read that it was indeed a derailment but why are they hiding that from their site ??? 

4 minutes ago, Jova42R said:

I was just on the , and in the tunnel between 103 and 110, I saw an R142A on the southbound track. Are R142As coming to the ? Or was it a  that for some reason was running on the  line? What is it?

There was a stalled train at 110st that rerouted  and  trains on the  line 

When does the NYPD decide which Tracks should be closed during an investigation? Tonight out of all nights I needed to be at Sheepshead Bay ! When I got there law and behold the Manhattan bound platform was indeed closed as MTA said on their website. But thank g-d at least trains were going express .i had go to Brighton Beach to switch for a Manhattan Bound train and just missed the last  for the night. But how does the NYPD decide wether to power off one track or more then one track?

The last (F) express to get to midtown is around 8:20. Basically Soemone who starts work around 9Am Dosent have use for this .

It’s not great to have two trains terminating on the same track all day. Could be they are doing work at relays. I don’t really know.  At least they aren’t turning (4)s at Atlantic weekdays anymore .

The problem is they are both terminating at Utica and if they are both on the same track it’s kind of rough . 

Not necessarily. Canarsie tune is closed now .normally it’s 8th ave. Could be unlreated.

I thought they can terminate both the and at Utica Ave together . I guess not that weekend for some reason.  At least there not doing that during the week . It’s been a long time since they did that during the week 

On 9/5/2019 at 12:19 PM, Jemorie said:

 

Since this is social media, I’m not just gonna take your word for it. Southbound, the  has to switch twice; first, to the local track and then the Nostrand Avenue Line. Northbound, it has to switch from the Nostrand Avenue Line, to the local track, and then the express track. This easily causes delays to all other trains behind. It also depends on their printed schedules too.

As for as Utica, far too many times I’ve been on  trains that were backed as far as Nostrand Avenue on the express track and ended up missing the  train that passed you by. AM Rush, PM Rush, evenings after 8 p.m. to around 9:30-ish. I learned the hard way to get off the  or  I’m on whenever I see the  coming at the same time across the platform as early as Nevins and sometimes even Franklin as well or if it is only a minute or two at either station. 

The   and  often take a good 12-15 minute tops instead of 6 minutes to get from Atlantic to Franklin southbound while the  and  stop dead multiple times from Atlantic to Franklin. Northbound is okay somewhat, however.

Looking at the printed schedules, the  is every 4 minutes peak and every 8 minutes off-peak. But I hardly see any improvements at Utica nine times out of ten and the relay always has issues handling a train every 4 minutes. Sometimes, there could be two to three  ‘s at the relay scheduled to come out and re-enter service on the lower level at a certain time. You never know.

Yesterday I  got off at Kingston and yes there was congestion again! However there was an earlier incident Manhattan bound. So maybe this delayed the Utica ave bound trains? I don’t know . I think if service is normal in general then the waits before Utica are less. 

Utica has special relay operators for all trains I believe. Also as soon as a train arrives they have several people checking to make sure no one is on . I’ve noticed major improvements there. Its easier now though cause i usually check subway time or an app to see if there is a bottleneck going into that station ..  if yes I’ll get off at Franklin and take a  but it’s usually good however I don’t usually go between 5 and 7 . So maybe it hasn’t changed but I think it did . Also unrelated the waiting at Nostrand for a  or  to cross rush hour had dramatically improved ! 75 percent of time it’s in and out ! Even rush hour (especially evening ) can be pretty good believe it or not!

I have .i believe it’s been better. I usually though don’t do it between 5-7 which is the worse time. Sometimes I get off at Kingston and stick around a little to see how the  ,s are doing and lately I’ve noticed they are better . If they do wait it’s usually minimal.

2 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

The relay at Church Av is WAY to long for the .

It’s actually not so bad . The relays  have greatly improved at stations like Utica Ave  and Church Ave  . Many times a train comes into Utica and it can be out a minute later ! It used to be much worse ! Trains used to line up to almost Franklin waiting to get it at times . The  by Church is not so bad . I do it many sundays . Almost never do we have to wait for  to leave !

Not necessarily. Let’s say the G.O area was near Roosevelt Island they can’t send the  to 96th?

Looks Kind of hard to run a shuttle to 34th or 42nd. Unfortunately it dosnet seem like there was an option . Unless maybe to run the 3 to 42nd and back ? 

On the way to 42nd you actually can run  the  normal but then how do you get it back to

to local? Not sure if it  would have made sense but anyway it’s over now . Will worry about it next time 😊

I remeber going to school way back . The 4 was local to Franklin then express to Atlantic 

For years it hasn’t ! Nothing new 

Maybe then just write train. Because work train people know are older and issues can last longer.

M and Q trains have service changes and delays because of a work train experiencing a mechanical problem at 96 St.

M trains are stopping along the B line in both directions between 47-50 Sts-Rockefeller Center and 145 St. 

There is no Q train service in both directions between 57 St-7 Av and 96 St. 

See a station agent for a courtesy pass for continuing service. 

For stations along 2 Av, use nearby 6 line service along Lexington Av. 

For service to/from Lexington Av-63 St, use the nearby Lexington Av-59 St station.

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what in the world is a work train doing there ? Is there a yard there if not it Dosent belong there unless it’s a G.O

The (B) and (W) at evening is almost for certain . Maybe even (w) midday . 

Probobaly they will cut the and  to end early (like they already do a lot of times) and perhaps also cut those lines middays . Maybe cut the and (south of 180) on weekends . perhaps even cut the  on weekends though I hope it’s not that bad!

Instead of my pattern they left the 4 and 5 normal and 2  and 3 needing to cross over after Atlantic. Makes no sense. Or they could have had the 3 just run from New Lots to Utica. I think one train did that . Too make a long story short all I’m saying is that there were too many different moves at Atlantic ave. But I think they weren’t prepared to do the pattern I recommend

It’s the best they could have done. I know it Dosent make sense. But I saw on transsee.ca that  some 4 trains took 30 minutes from Franklin to Atlantic! That makes no sense ! In the pattern I described there would have been delays but no 30 minutes from those stations.

I think for yesterday this would have been the best service pattern to cause the least delays .Anytime 7th ave is completely closed off this is what should be done.

 regular then via Lex after Atlantic 

 regular to Utica  (Maybe to Franklin but I think would cause too many delays with all trains trying to merge) then express till Atlantic last stop

 Local Utica to Atlantic then then regular 

 regular besides local Franklin to Atlantic 

The above Applies only if  and  can switch to Lex without having to worry about  trains switching to spur track. If the  dosent block the others trains path then this is definitely what should be done! With this pattern the  has its own track to turn around and not block other trains from proceeding into manhattan. In my opion they should just suspend the  and have the  run from new lots  but if not this must be done especially during rush.  Yes I know there would be a lot of confusion but at least trains would be moving 

Does anyone know if any  trains went via Lex today?

There have been no advisories at all relating to this .Proboablh cause it was structaul work and not signal or track related.