It's terrible to see the old NGs in such terrible shape. Slipping transmissions, squealing belts, everything short of one catching on fire, I've seen or heard it. When I rode the N20G back to Long Island at the end of December, I caught 1684. It was painfully slow, but the interior held up well after over a decade, the exterior (and interior) signs worked fine, the heat worked just fine, and the drivetrain sounded healthy. If it was washed and polished inside and out, I probably wouldn't have known that it was an older bus.