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Painting subway cars are more difficult in NYC than in Philadelphia. We have a lot of people out there that would spray paint and draw on trains. Painting them would require constant new paint coating frequently, and it's not worth it. It's cheaper right now to use the anti graffiti spray and to wipe it off. Painting them would require taking them out of service as well if the vandalism is bad enough. Here we just wipe it off. The train then can go back into service.

Our subway cars used to be painted. The cost of maintaining them was not worth it.

There are some ordered for the Q line. It will be needed for it's future runs on the Second Avenue Line.

For those of you that haven't heard MITRAC. They sound a lot like the R142's, but are much sharper and louder. They would be music to any railfan's ears. It would especially give the NYC Subway a special kick. If the R179's have this propulsion a distinction between the new tech trains would be clear.

I am certain that they are going to the C now. New C Line Cars Four Years Away By Kristen Meriwether http://www.theepocht...way-212812.html

Well it's certain that the R32's will be scrapped so the R46's would be sent to the A line for a while.

Meanwhile more news sources seems to point to the C line. New York MTA selects Bombardier to supply 300 metro cars 30 March 2012 http://www.railwayga...metro-cars.html There is no doubt in my mind that even though it doesn't say it exactly the R179's are going to be on the C.

It's quite possible that the MTA saw that Kawasaki had their hands full, and that is why Bombardier won by default.

It's seems like the C would probably only run 480 foot long trains. Maybe the MTA believed that demands aren't high enough to warrant for 600 foot long trains.

It is still possible that the C line will get the R179's. Sadly if that happens the A line will get the hand me down R46's.

While everyone is talking about this in NYC the people in Plattsburg is extremely happy to have jobs to build more subway cars MTA buying subway cars made upstate; protects jobs By MICHAEL GORMLEY Associated Press http://www.yorkdispa...e-protects-jobs This acts as confirmation that the C line will be getting the R179's. That means the A line will get the R46's until they get replaced by the R211's.

Second Avenue Sagas mentions that the C line will have the R179's, and the will use the R46's until their time is up and they are replaced with the R211's.

The R160's have that too. Once the TO's start the car they can't stop holding onto that switch because if they let go the train stops.

Well the World Trade Center station isn't really useful since Chambers Street is right nearby. I think it might work.

Two tracks will come off the local tracks east of the Broadway-Lafayette Street Station, and runs underneath the Sixth Avenue Tracks, once it get's close to the proximity of Houston Street it turns south and merges with the Second Avenue Subway.

A suggestion why don't you just make the run somewhere into Brooklyn? There is a lot of room for improvement in Brooklyn. Red Hook is an example.

We don't want more (S)'s we want more full subway lines to serve the people that need the service. We need less (S)'s more subway lines like what Censin is trying to point out. Here. Create a Sixth Avenue Local (I) train that would run from LaGuardia Airport with the where it would connect with the 63rd Street Tunnel. It would run as a local along Sixth Avenue and branch off south of the Broadway Lafayette Street Station and it would follow the Second Avenue Subway all the way to Staten Island before continuing downwards to Tottenville. That would create a West Shore Line.

Hey Censin I think you should design that Sixth Avenue Line proposal I gave you to serve the western part of Staten Island. The entire West Shore to Tottenville. This is because they are going to develop that area and it would be a hassle to build transit there later when the buildings are there. It would serve the offices, businesses, and homes that would come there soon.

Best off creating your own thread.

There is room for a local service on the Sixth Avenue Line. You should create a new service using Sixth Avenue. Maybe it can follow the (U) from Staten Island all the way up to the Bronx as a local. It would have to branch of the Sixth Avenue Line though. It can head up Third or Fifth Avenue, and serve the areas west of the in the Bronx before heading out even farther to serve the western section of Riverdale. Oh yeah you have a problem. Trains can't use the Verrazano Narrows Bridge since Robert Moses built it like that. It would have to be in a tunnel parallel to the bridge, and I don't thing the subway can use the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel since Robert Moses built that too. It would have to be in a parallel tunnel.

I mentioned they should have ordered more R160's or more R110's. I didn't specifically say order more R110's. I am also certain that if more R110B's were ordered they could have had ran on the Rockaways unlike the R160's which can't.

This is exactly why I believe the should have had either increased the orders of R160's, or should have ordered more R110's during the time.

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