TwoTimer

Its not the tunnels per se, its more the tight curves and tracks close together on those sections of track.

More of "what we can get", our government agencies have functioned on borrowed money for decades.

In the end, if money was the end-all factor, nothing mentioned here would go on except what TA is already doing. That's all they have the money for. Over half a billion dollars that would have gone to other projects and/or upgrades (fantasy or not) now goes to continuing to repair damange from Sandy. Thats the reality of it. Carry on.

I always thought Brighton was the wrong trunk to add something... the branches in the city I considered were... Dyre Sea Beach Lenox Broadway (upper)

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the two stations being where they at... one cant say close down one or the other without saying close down either Wall St or Bowling Green in the IRT. Its almost like one wants them closed just so the train can go faster into the joined station or Newkirk... as if that 30mph sign that many ignore at the head of Newkirk isn't there and that trains already are pushing 40 into Beverley s/b, quite possibly already the fastest station on that section of track.

There is also a bus depot at the far end of the yard as well if I remember right which goes another block. This isn't Allerton Av where one is really just putting a station and entrances over the street itself (a thruspan and el underneath) and eating away a handful of backyard on the south side of Allerton (there's nothing there on the north side). Back to the west end, there is also a switch in the middle of that tunnel that would have to go somewhere that is often used to allow work trains to wrong rail south from 36th and north from 9Av. A better arugment might be given for the Sea Beach between 59th and 8 Av, as there is actually open space (not tunnel, but open cut and some residential above 6Av (i think its 6th).

I never said they would run local Simply terminate at Pacific St and go back north from there, often Murphy doesn't want the train as they lose flexibility with the interlockings at 36st and 9Av when a revenue train is there at a time when work trains are pouring out of the yard.

Addendum: If a train runs through the bypass going south, it will be express on 4Av at least to 36st (except some baseball specials).

Frankly, nothing has to be done in the boro of Manhattan, but the outerboros are another story.

You don't hate this thread, you hate what it became, and even more so when someone resurrected it.

I remember back when I was operating last month, was on the and left Euclid together with an . Couple railfans from here was on the train. I saw the back of that same leaving Chambers...

Yup, its a pleasure when its still fun monetizing your hobby, but we're clearly in the minority.

That's why I've taken this in stride, can't educate the world and expect all on here to pull a MikeGerald and completely learn everything about how rail works, trains work, the geology of NYC when it comes to the subway, and become a subway history buff first before posting anything (that's a lot of information that takes years to fully learn and synergize). Some will never completely get it until they become TA personnel themselves (assuming they're old enough to become one). Then you throw in the fact that turning a hobby into a career (monetizing it) often takes the fun out of the hobby, which is why some still won't do it.

The one thing I do wonder is why TA personnel continue to post and read what goes on here while they don't like wha's being said or the essence of being a subway buff.

And remember Nostrand was supposed to be a bypassed stop as well.