<6>PelhamExp

1 hour ago, Calvin said:

I wonder if Simpson St on the  had the noise problem before. Or that it's different compared to what's seen for Coney Island. 

IIRC, the building that is on the corner of Westchester Avenue & Southern Blvd, which the  and  get extremely close to as its making its way into Simpson Street Station is not used for residential purposes. That building, I would assume, can probably feel the train as it is rounding that curve. There are a few other residential buildings in the immediate area, however, I don't know how loud it gets for them. I will say that it gets extremely loud under the El when the train is rounding that curve.

Random - But I wonder why the R160s and R179 program lists the  northern terminal as 168 ST/MANHTN as opposed to WASH HTS-168 ST the way the R46 is coded. There isn't a 168 Street station anywhere else in the system, so why the MANHTN part? 

1 minute ago, Lawrence St said:

Not sure how it would be SRO in that scenario when it's the exact same service...

Maybe the poster is referring to less frequent service at that station because the tph would have to be cut in half to cover the Express and Local service, since it may be difficult to add service due to capacity on Lex.

If thats not what the poster is referring to, SRO conditions at Fordham already exist, so I am unsure what they mean.

4 hours ago, Deucey said:

So everyone at Fordham gets screwed by SRO conditions so trains can run fairly empty faster to/from a cemetery?

Nah.

SRO conditions because less frequency of trains running?

4 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

You can't do this without moving a switch at Burnside Av because local  trains terminating at Burnside would cause delays for .

Correct.

Switches would have to be moved to resemble current operations at Parkchester.

If a full blown rush hour peak direction express service were to be tried on the  using relay operations similar to Parkchester.. it could look like this:

 Woodlawn Express: Woodlawn, Mosholu Pkwy, Bedford Pk Blvd, Kingsbridge Rd, Fordham Rd, 183rd St, Burnside Av, 149-GC, 125th.

 Woodlawn Local: Burnside Av, 176th St, Mt Eden Av, 170th St, 167th St, 161st St-Yankee Stadium, 149-GC, 125th.

Thoughts?

44 minutes ago, Trainmaster5 said:

What is stopping you from taking the to Hunts Point Avenue and walking over one stop to the Bx5 terminal ? Whole lot easier commute compared to three trains,  at least to me. You're complaining about a routing problem with two lines that you can easily avoid, a self inflicted wound IMO .It's your decision.  Carry on. 

I only take two trains.  express from Grand Central to 3rd Avenue-149th Street and then the  to Simpson Street. 

I wouldn't call my observation complaining. I just stated what I observed. I choose that route because to me it makes more sense. I can see, however, how one may choose to take the  to Hunts Point, and then walking north to Simpson Street, just not what I do.

22 hours ago, Trainmaster5 said:

I don't know exactly where you live relative to the Simpson St. station but  i would catch the at 33rd street for a one seat ride to Hunt's Point Avenue. Less changes always appealed to me. I remember during service outages that many people would abandon the and and make the walk to the   from Simpson. Just an idea to ponder.  Carry on. 

 

Yes. That would make sense if I lived right near the  subway station. However, I have to take the Bx5 bus to Story Avenue after the subway. The first stop on the Bx5 (which is a very crowded, high ridership route, however, had terrible service) is Simpson Street. My chances of getting on the bus and getting a seat are MUCH higher at Simpson Street than at Hunt Point. Usually, once the Bx5 gets to Hunts Point Av, which is the second stop, the bus is packed, and many are not able to board at Hunts Point. So Simpson Street is the better option.

Late at night, after rush hour, if I am on the East Side, I will take the  to Hunts Point, but that doesn't happen often.

Here is my current experience.

I work on the east side. 1st Avenue & 32nd Street. I live in Soundview, and the stop I use is the Simpson Street station. My evening rush hour commute involves walking to Grand Central and take the to 3rd Avenue-149th Street where I transfer to the local to Simpson Street. From what I've observed, there are much more trains running to Eastchester than there are trains to Wakefield. Often times, I have seen up to three trains come through 3rd Avenue-149th Street bound for Dyre before a train shows up. By then, the platform at 3rd Avenue-149th Street is crowded, and so is the train with all the passengers who need the local stations between Jackson Av & West Farms, PLUS north of East 180th. Meanwhile, the express trains bound for Dyre are no where near as crowded as the .

It would be nice, for passenger distribution, to have the make the local stops between 3rd Avenue-149th Street & East 180th Street. This would solve the merger problem at East 180th between to Wakefield and to Eastchester. Both trains can arrive and depart at East 180th without crossing each other, during both southbound AM service and northbound PM service. However, I can imagine that the Dyre Avenue branch residents won't be happy about adding 7 additional stops to their commute.

8 hours ago, Bill from Maspeth said:

I had my first ride on a 10 car R179 yesterday.  Waited at Chambers St. for one in either direction.  Got set #2 bound for Lefferts Blvd. Rode back uptown, on the return trip it was bound for Far Rock.  I was thinking of staying on, but I had enough for one day.  Made my way home from Fulton St.  I can't complain.  Good acceleration and seemed much faster than the old stuff.

My only pet peeve is the set-up of the announcement program.  The policy, in both computer and manual announcements, is to announce the termination point once it gets into that borough.  So in Manhattan going southbound, it announces "Brooklyn Bound A train" and in Brooklyn it announces "Queens Bound A train".  It doesn't say the terminal till 80th St. because that is the first stop in Queens.  I will say there are excellent announcements by the computer all the way till Rockaway Blvd.  But......if you get on in Manhattan and are getting off past Rockaway Blvd., you want to know the trains' destination.   Where you embark, you might miss the scrolling sign on the outside, and/or you may not be entering at a door with the FIND.  It would be nice for the computer to be set up with the destination announced from 59th St. on.  If they don't want to do that, announce the destination at Euclid, either via computer or advise all c/r's to announce it manually.  This would also be helpful to sight impaired passengers.  Once the winter comes, it would be more comfortable for passengers to change trains at Euclid instead of Rockaway Blvd. 

Something similar was done on the Bronx bound  and  trains when they had R142As. Instead of northbound trains in Manhattan announcing, "This is a Bronx Bound  Local train" the announcements played, "This is a Pelham Bay Park bound  train making Express stops in the Bronx" or "This is a Parkchester bound  local train". I think this was done to make it clear for passengers whether the train was the Parkchester Local or Pelham Express.

Something similar can be done on the  where once southbound trains enter Brooklyn, they can announce, "This is a Far Rockaway Bound  Express Train" etc.

7 hours ago, Around the Horn said:

Did you actually read the presentation? It clear says the Shuttle will continue to operate at the busiest times (i.e. weekdays) ...

I must've missed it several times because I don't see where in the above slides this is mentioned. Would you like to point it out?

This project will take 36 months to complete. How will the  be able to handle the crowds as it will serve as the sole 42nd Street crosstown service?

3 hours ago, LordAMoore said:

https://imgur.com/a/7aL3X1h

Yes - Upon closer look I could see where the stickers were added.

3 hours ago, LordAMoore said:

Just keep checking here

http://web.mta.info/nyct/materiel/collectsales/index.html

Thats where I got my strip, hopefully they'll show at some point unless they've already been sold, they have an email you can contact to find out

I tried the link but its not working 😞 

31 minutes ago, Around the Horn said:

The map is from 2002. Barclays Center and the transfers are stickers placed on top of the original map.

You're right.

If you look extremely closely, I can see where there transfer sticker is placed over the original transfers.

As a Soundview resident I am definitely happy to see that the Bx6 SBS is being proposed to be extended down Story Avenue. Bx5 service is terrible mostly due to the traffic jam on Bruckner Blvd & Bronx River Avenue. To make matters worst, the moving company Roadway stores their trucks on a lot on Bronx River Avenue & Story Avenue, and their AM operations often block ALL traffic going south and north on Bronx River Avenue. And as if that is NOT enough, when the Bruckner Expwy is jammed, many drivers cut through Story Avenue which creates even more traffic. I've seen traffic from Bronx River Av & Bruckner Blvd be backed up all the way to Boynton Avenue & Story Avenue.

Also - there are two new affordable housing buildings that are slated to open this summer along Story Avenue and two more that are being planned on Story Avenue between Boynton and Morrison Avs. The current Bx5 cannot handle the crowds as it is now, imagine when the new buildings open and the other two are built. 

All of this to say that Story Avenue will definitely benefit from the additional Bx6 SBS service, but DOT MUST figure something out with Bx River Av & Bruckner Blvd in order for this to work.

If there were money somewhere, they should look at a flyover bridge over the Bronx River connecting Lafayette Avenues or connecting Story Avenue to Garrison Avenue avoiding Bruckner Blvd all together.

On 5/31/2019 at 7:06 PM, LordAMoore said:

I recently brought one of the Line 2 strip maps and I was wondering if there was any info as to when it stopped being used/was updated, what colour the lights were as I'd love to get it lot again and also if the lights would turn on and stay on, on but turn off when you get to the stop, or weather the light just changed position depending on the stop.

The date on the back is from 2002

https://imgur.com/a/pPdkgqQ

Thanks

 

Are you sure this strip map is from 2002.

Back in 2002, the Barclays Center was not yet built. That opened in 2012. And the  train was a service that was still in operation.  train service was discontinued in 2005.

The amount of people on the subways who are homeless and also experiencing mental health problems is becoming unbearable. I've noticed that I can't go from point A to B on the train without having the 'pleasure' of encountering one of these people. It is truly unfortunate. 

On 3/27/2019 at 6:45 PM, m2fwannabe said:

Undergoing modifications.  Can't be more specific.

Caught the 10-Car R179 A train at 168 Street bound for 207 St. Maybe they corrected whatever issues were happening?

Random - How come the interior door lights (I don't know what the technical term for it is) on the R179 are so obnoxiously big compared to what they usually look like? The only other car that also has obnoxiously big interior door lights are the R46.

Any updates on the location of the 10-car R179? 

3 hours ago, 2 Train Master said:

Jessica E is still the GOAT imo, very clear however aggressive when announcing certain stops such as Fulton St (LEX), and Pelham Pkway-WPR stop. The announcements get to the point without being too quick or dragged out whereas Cathering Cowdry seems a bit slower paced then a pause.

I agree. Her announcements are clear, even though some people say that she sounds like she is yelling.

Given the different voices were hear on the NTT of the NYC Subway, it's a given that some may find certain voices more pleasant than others. This is the breakdown of announcements by lines:

 - Diane Thompson

 - Jessica Ettinger-Gottesman

 - Kathleen Campion

 - Catherine Cowdery

I'm not sure why I find that the announcements on the  are different from the rest of those that are announced by Catherine Cowdery. Does anyone else pick up on that?

Anyway, if it were up to me, I would have Jessica Ettinger-Gottesman be the ONLY voice for the entire subway system, while Charlie Pellet announces transfer points and 'Stand Clear Of ThE Closing Doors Please'. I think that Jessica's announcements are the most crisp and clear announcements. What do you all think? Who is your favorite voice?

And... What is up with those R143, those announcements are played so low it is almost impossible to hear. Is that something that the C/O can adjust?

Based on the videos that I've seen on the forums and YouTube... It seem that the door chime on the R179 are a bit different than whats on the R160s. Correct me if I am wrong, but the door chime sounds very similar, if not the same, to the door chime that is on the R142?

I wonder if the R179 will buck the way the Bombardier R142's on the and do?